Player Watch JHF - Jason Horne-Francis

[VinnieB]

Memberships? Crowds against interstate sides? Constant and continuous calls to be folded or relocated to Tasmania?

The only reason North don't have debt is because they have one of the lowest football department spends in the AFL. Anybody can avoid having debt if they don't spend any money. Probably yet another reason JHF wanted out.

Port must be spending an exorbitant amount on their football department.....

 

[LoungeLizard]

Memberships? Crowds against interstate sides? Constant and continuous calls to be folded or relocated to Tasmania?

The only reason North don't have debt is because they have one of the lowest football department spends in the AFL. Anybody can avoid having debt if they don't spend any money. Probably yet another reason JHF wanted out.

So we could say that North are the shittiest, or 2nd shittiest, and Port are the 2nd shittiest or 1st.

JHF may think North are 1st, but he didn't set his goals very high then.

 

[Port 2004]

So we could say that North are the shittiest, or 2nd shittiest, and Port are the 2nd shittiest or 1st.

JHF may think North are 1st, but he didn't set his goals very high then.

Oh go lose another grand final by less than a kick. Oh but we have a ver y large supporter base, but we can’t win a grand final.

 

[Port 2004]

So we could say that North are the shittiest, or 2nd shittiest, and Port are the 2nd shittiest or 1st.

JHF may think North are 1st, but he didn't set his goals very high then.

1959, 1990, 2010. So Collingwood have also,won a single flag since The Port Adelaide Football Club left the SANFL at the end of 1996. So for a all of your money and power, Collingwood are no better in terms of premiership success. Isn’t that the main reason that we are competing?

 

[LoungeLizard]

1959, 1990, 2010. So Collingwood have also,won a single flag since The Port Adelaide Football Club left the SANFL at the end of 1996. So for a all of your money and power, Collingwood are no better in terms of premiership success. Isn’t that the main reason that we are competing?

Maybe, you seem to be getting very upset, why take it out on me?
The poster I am replying to are saying North are the shittiest team, I am just throwing some mud back.

I f my club is 3rd shittiest, so be it.

 

[Freomaniac]

Fun fact: A #1 draft pick hasn't played in a premiership for the club that drafted them since Luke Hodge. He was drafted over 20 years ago now.

JHF didn't want to look back on a wasted career in 15 years' time like a Marc Murphy or David Swallow. He doesn't owe North a career of wasting his enormous potential at that loser club just because they drafted him.

Again... Cuts both ways.

You also forgot to mention some number 1 draft picks that have made grand finals too

 

[Schulzenfest]

Again... Cuts both ways.

You also forgot to mention some number 1 draft picks that have made grand finals too

Well that's because I don't consider just making a Grand Final to be a success, because I'm not a Fremantle supporter.

 

[Freomaniac]

Well that's because I don't consider just making a Grand Final to be a success, because I'm not a Fremantle supporter.

Leave the trolling out of this thread. My posts have been fair and balanced so far.

Well maybe because you and I have standards.

My standards are probably lower than yours due to my team's success or lack thereof.

Dockers have been in the AFL since 1995. So far only 8 times out of 28 seasons Freo made finals. Not a lot to look back on.

Pick 1 isn't going to instantly turn the club around

 

[Schulzenfest]

Leave the trolling out of this thread.

The very fact that this thread exists is trolling. Should have been moved to Bay 13 the minute it opened.

 

[PAFC_FOREVER]

I have to agree. Port are known to foster "softer" type players, and it's probably why they had their sights on him.

Soft like Butters who laughed off your big tough guy Ziebull?

Keyboard warriors, lmao.

 

[Engimal v3]

Soft like Butters who laughed off your big tough guy Ziebull?

Keyboard warriors, lmao.

I think it is unwise to accuse someone of being a keyboard warrior after dropping a "my dad could beat your dad" argument lol

 

[PAFC_FOREVER]

I think it is unwise to accuse someone of being a keyboard warrior after dropping a "my dad could beat your dad" argument lol

Says the guy who thinks Port draft soft players.

Let it go. Let it go....

Only a flog would insult people anonymously on the Internet.

 

[All Aust]

The Iceberg Lettuce would be 2-0.

 

[Pavlovs Cat]

I think Buckley is a better example.

Got drafted to Brisbane Bears, sooked the entire time he was there and then got traded to Collingwood

Did he though? A long time ago now but it seemed to me he put in while at the Lions, maybe Brissy fans might correct me on that one. And if I'm not mistaken it was known in advance his stay at the Lions was for only one year. And from what I perceive from Bucks, I can't imagine him not doing what was required even if he preferred to play elsewhere. Bucks also had more of a reason to be a 'FIGJAM'. He had a Magery Medal and a SANFL flag before he went into the big time.

 

[Pie eyed]

I think Buckley is a better example.

Got drafted to Brisbane Bears, sooked the entire time he was there and then got traded to Collingwood

Do some basic research.
Dumb post just shows your ignorance of fact.

 

[Pavlovs Cat]

23 seasons ago Geelong gave the captaincy to Leigh Colbert, he got injured in a pre-season game in 1999 and never led the club in a day game. End of 1999 North Melbourne, the Premiers and fresh from seven consecutive PF's and two Flags looked a much better option for the future than the Cats who had not renewed Ayres' contract and had Costa and Cook discovering a big black hole at the club finance-wise.

Fast forward a couple of decades and thanks to canny management from those two, faith in Bomber and Wells over the years, and faith in Chris Scott has seen Geelong become the destination club. You couldn't concieve in a million years a player wanting away from the Pies to join Geelong a generation ago. Nothing to say the wheel cannot turn a full circle again with North getting their act together on and off-field. But it does seem that there are swings and roundabouts, and even full circles where players may again seek to join clubs that were considered basket cases. After the failed recruitment of a cooked Mitchell White the illustrious visage of Ray Hall was sought out to join Geelong in 2002..and he refused.

And i can't really hang it too much on a 19 y/o kid who just didn't ever get into being at Nth Melbourne. It's probably better to have moved on as they have, start again with picks 2 and 3, and JHF go back to his home state and see what he can produce there. At least JHF has been a better recruit for North than Geelong singular #1 pick in their history, Stephen Hooper, who had knees that made Mitchell White's look like Joel Selwood's.

Bloody hell Hooper and Colbert. Thanks ace!

 

[Pavlovs Cat]

So when Port start 0-5 again next year, who does he want to play with in 2024?
Heck, depending on his longevity, he could get around to all the clubs potentially.

Except Hawthorn.

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

Imagine an 18 year old thrown straight into a centre square midfield at AFL level with little to no support around him while still posting decent disposal numbers, clearances, contested possessions and tackles and then compare that to some of the tripe mentioned in here.

He’s shown all the reasons why he was rated so highly as a junior and that multiple clubs were willing to pay a ransom to get him.

Very few first year players could produce what he did in their first year in the centre from day 1 as an 18 year old. Most highly rated juniors usually have the luxury to start on a flank/outside role with stints inside while being protected by the senior players. The opposite was true for JHF and he was left flying the flag most weeks on his own.

Showing frustration is a sign he doesn’t want to accept mediocrity or be smashed by 10 goals every week. North could have done with a couple more players this year with his attitude and they also could have done more to protect him and get the best out of him.

 

[Belnakor]

Do some basic research.
Dumb post just shows your ignorance of fact.

thanks bucks

 

[FourthTimeAround]

Did he though? A long time ago now but it seemed to me he put in while at the Lions, maybe Brissy fans might correct me on that one. And if I'm not mistaken it was known in advance his stay at the Lions was for only one year. And from what I perceive from Bucks, I can't imagine him not doing what was required even if he preferred to play elsewhere. Bucks also had more of a reason to be a 'FIGJAM'. He had a Magery Medal and a SANFL flag before he went into the big time.

Had a Magarey and SANFL flag in 92 because he refused to go to Brisbane when drafted in 91.

 

[PrisonBars4life]

mentally weak more so than soft but I guess it somewhat falls under that umbrella too

I would have thought you would have been too embarrassed to post on the main board after all the rubbish you posted during trade week.

 

[MisterMarcus]

Exactly. Knew he was able to leave after a year. So big difference isn't it.
Wonder if Brisbane had told him he had to stay for 2 as per draft contract, what would have happened?
Wonder if North had told JHF he could leave after 1, what would have happened?
Wonder if Buckley wanted to leave a Melbourne based club to go to, let's say Port Adelaide, how much crap would have rained down on him from the Melbourne AFL media?

Buckley strikes me as having WAY too much pride in his own performance to sook it up and go at half-rat power, even if he was unhappy.

As for the argument that "Well he was at a shit club and far from home, so it's understandable he was poor, now he's home and happy he'll be a gun", I'm not sure that's the gotcha that Port fans think it is. if you only perform when everything is going well for you and your team.....you're not gun player material.

 

[Coops93]

Yeah but remember how he stood up for his club and team mates to Jack Silvagni

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Jack Silvagni

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26

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194cm

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92kg

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Fwd

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11.0

3star

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7.1

3star

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3.8

3star

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3.8

4star

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2.9

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

5.3

1star

K

4.0

1star

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1.3

1star

M

1.7

2star

T

0.7

1star

G

0.7

4star

D

9.2

3star

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6.2

3star

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3.0

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.8

4star

who was telling him how shit he and his club are? Right after Francis delivered a cheap shot into Silvagnis back behind play. Toughness iirc.

In the end though he seems to have agreed with Silvagni.

 

[Catsace]

Tom Lynch and Ollie Henry are the two that pop into my head instantly. Apparently Henry has night terrors if his brother isn't cuddling him to sleep as he plays the little spoon

It's a new reality, as per my post some pages before, 20 years earlier the thought of a player wanting to join Geelong over just about any other side was a pipe-dream, for a period of time we could only get players who had significant injury concerns such as Mitchell White, Brett Spinks, Jason Mooney among some, or just fringe players like Tristan Lynch, Simon Arnott, David Loats and David Haynes types.

But close to 20 years of good club management and a culture of always competing and a strong environment now sees Geelong a place where even the biggest clubs of all have to be wary insofar as keeping their players from. The Pies drafted Henry already knowing he was a Geelong boy (lived near KP), and he'd have been probably picked by the Cats had the Pies not claimed him with pick 17. The Cats drafted Max Holmes with pick 19.

So despite the gravitas of Collingwood, Geelong's appeal is now the complete opposite to two decades ago. If you look at who Geelong recruited even back to the days of Gary Sr, most good players from other clubs actually only started with a handful there, such as Gary Sr (6 games with Hawks), Tim McGrath (couple of games at Nth, same with Brad Sholl and Liam Pickering). Tom Harley one game with Port, even Cam Mooney a handful of games at Nth too. Until Ottens, and then much more latterly Dangerfield and Jeremy Cameron, that's the only way Geelong got players from another club. No quality established player ever wanted to join the Cats up till then.

 

[PrinceCharles]

From the sounds of it his step-dad is the soft one.