Scandal Joel Smith (Melbourne): Cocaine trafficking accusation

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Trafficking Accusation:

Scandal - Joel Smith (Melbourne): Cocaine trafficking accusation

Trafficking Accusation: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/joel-smith-melbourne-cocaine-trafficking-accusation.1373812/post-82421629 MFC and AFL Statements: Melbourne Football Club Media Statement – Joel Smith The Melbourne Football Club has been advised by the AFL that further...

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MFC and AFL Statements:

Melbourne Football Club Media Statement – Joel Smith

The Melbourne Football Club has been advised by the AFL that further Anti-Doping Rule Violations have been asserted against Joel Smith by Sport Integrity Australia.

The Melbourne Football Club is not authorised to make public comment while this is an ongoing matter that is being investigated by Sport Integrity Australia.

It should be noted since the article has been published on the Herald Sun website, Joel’s management has contacted the Club on his behalf to advise that the comments made by the source within the article are not reflective of Joel’s views and the source is not speaking on any authority from Joel.

Joel has made it very clear that he has no issues or concerns with anyone at the Melbourne Football Club.

As the Club has previously stated, we will wait for the investigation to be completed before we update our supporters further.

AFL STATEMENT – JOEL SMITH

The AFL confirms that further Anti-Doping Rule Violations (ADRVs) have been asserted against Joel Smith of the Melbourne Football Club under the Australian Football Anti-Doping Code.

Sport Integrity Australia (SIA) has notified Smith that three ADRVs for “Trafficking or Attempted Trafficking” of Cocaine to third parties are asserted against him.

Under the Code, Trafficking in an anti-doping context is relevantly defined to be “Selling, giving, transporting, sending, delivering or distributing a Prohibited Substance, by an Athlete … to any third party [but] shall not include actions involving Prohibited Substances which are not prohibited in Out-of-Competition Testing unless the circumstances as a whole demonstrate such Prohibited Substances are not intended for genuine and legal therapeutic purposes or are intended to enhance sport performance” (Article 1 of the Code).

Further, SIA has notified Smith that an ADRV for Possession of a Prohibited Substance (Cocaine) on 9 September 2022 is asserted against him.

These ADRVs are in addition to that previously asserted against him (in connection with a sample provided by him after the match between Melbourne and Hawthorn on 20 August 2023 which tested positive to Cocaine and its metabolite, Benzoylecgonine).

Smith will continue to be provisionally suspended pending the finalisation of all of these matters, meaning he is not permitted to be part of Melbourne’s football program, including Melbourne’s pre-season training that is currently underway.

Under the Code, the new asserted ADRVs will be further investigated by SIA and these matters may ultimately be heard by an AFL Anti-Doping Tribunal in the coming months.

Due to the ongoing nature of the anti-doping process, the AFL and SIA are unable to make any further comment at this time.

 

[Cyclops]

I think we can all agree with Smith being a dumbarse of epic proportions but your insistence on using the word "cheat" is taking the literal SIA interpretation of drug use to the nth degree. Cocaine found in the system on match day is considered "performance enhancing" but it's highly arguable it should be considered this. Even more arguable when the testing these days is highly sensitive so picks up metabolites in the system days after ingestion when the effects of cocaine would have well and truly worn off.

Extremely hard to prove that Joel Smith ingested coke days ahead of match day with the specific intent of using it to enhance his performance in-game. Which would align with your view of him as a cheat.

The much more likely explanation is he was a complete and utter idiot who just wanted to get on the bags on a night out in-season.

I don't know your experience hanging around 20-something males, particularly footballers, but it's very common nowadays for a bloke to throw up a "anyone want a bag?" when out on the piss with a group of other like-minded individuals.

I am surprised at how much the young people use these days, the drug laws seem virtually a dead letter.

I am a grudging decriminaliser. The young people have voted with their noses, so we should do harm minimalisation. Keep ice illegal though.

Is cocaine not performance enhancing? I know coca and cocaine are used in Sourh America in labouring situations to enhance endurance, my step daughter was given coca leaf tea to treat altitude sickness ehile trekking there and she said she was up and about pretty quickly.

You're right he's mostly guilty of being an idiot. I think the "like a few beers" line is bollocks though as is Shaun Smiths deflection. There's a difference between the guy who uses and the guy who sells.

I can't be drunk at my work, let alone high. Smith turned up to work high (he had cocaine in his body) and was selling other players drugs that could get them banned.

Wouldn't want him at the Pies. We've had plenty of cheeky young men and those caught using were banned too.

 

[gambinotosserflog]

I am surprised at how much the young people use these days, the drug laws seem virtually a dead letter.

I am a grudging decriminaliser. The young people have voted with their noses, so we should do harm minimalisation. Keep ice illegal though.

Is cocaine not performance enhancing? I know coca and cocaine are used in Sourh America in labouring situations to enhance endurance, my step daughter was given coca leaf tea to treat altitude sickness ehile trekking there and she said she was up and about pretty quickly.

You're right he's mostly guilty of being an idiot. I think the "like a few beers" line is bollocks though as is Shaun Smiths deflection. There's a difference between the guy who uses and the guy who sells.

I can't be drunk at my work, let alone high. Smith turned up to work high (he had cocaine in his body) and was selling other players drugs that could get them banned.

Wouldn't want him at the Pies. We've had plenty of cheeky young men and those caught using were banned too.

you admit it yourself, the difference is whether its criminalised or not. different time, different era, different circumstances. during prohibition, you'd be looking at beer differently. again (people dont seem to get it), cocaine use is reasonably material in the younger crowd, hence asking if anyone wants a bag is pretty much the same (in a social sense) as asking if anyone wants a shout. i doubt you're calling anyone in 2024 who offers to shout their mate a schooner a 'filthy bootlegger'.

 

[errant bounce]

People talked shit on Trac’s ‘brand Petracca’ concerns… but imagine being a world class athlete at the top of your game and losing sponsorships cos you were implicated in an ASADA investigation into drug trafficking due to your ******* teammate sending out a group text to you and your other teammates (who their doctor claims most of whom are coke fiends) asking who wants to buy because he just got a bunch.

Petracca knows far more about what goes down inside Melbourne and even outsiders reckon Goodwin is a prick and the club's ****ed. he still signed a mega mega contract.

Once it became public knowledge he wanted to weasel out, out of fear of its implications.

He's either dumb as absolute **** (very very possible for a man who calls bechamel sauce 'betcha-mel') or just a turd who only cares about his shitty contracts and money (wait, no, they're both the case!).

 

[Pistol Night]

Petracca knows far more about what goes down inside Melbourne and even outsiders reckon Goodwin is a prick and the club's ****ed. he still signed a mega mega contract.

Once it became public knowledge he wanted to weasel out, out of fear of its implications.

He's either dumb as absolute **** (very very possible for a man who calls bechamel sauce 'betcha-mel') or just a turd who only cares about his shitty contracts and money (wait, no, they're both the case!).

Or a bloke that was a whisker away from dying on field from a clubs malpractice and thought maybe a glance elsewhere might be an option. The crap the poor bloke copped from dickhead journos was pathetic

 

[Cyclops]

you admit it yourself, the difference is whether its criminalised or not. different time, different era, different circumstances. during prohibition, you'd be looking at beer differently. again (people dont seem to get it), cocaine use is reasonably material in the younger crowd, hence asking if anyone wants a bag is pretty much the same (in a social sense) as asking if anyone wants a shout. i doubt you're calling anyone in 2024 who offers to shout their mate a schooner a 'filthy bootlegger'.

Not sure what im admitting here?

Smith wasn't done for illicit drug use, he was done for PEDs.

He was onselling gear. Do you see the difference between peddling stuff that can get your team mates banned, and sharing a legal drug socially?

It may well be He gets 4 more blokes sacked: if you go to the pub and do something to get your mates sacked you're a dog.

There's a definite moral difference between beer and cocaine, above and beyond "boomer cringe". Do you see where I am coming from? Not "a silly boy, blotted his copybook". He's a senior player setting fellas up to lose their employment.

I'm not happy this happened, but given what he's done I am satisfied to see him booted.

 

[M_Life23]

Couldnt agree more, but will Geelong open its doors and be investigated as well.....Ahhhhh Tyson S. Atishooo.

I couldn’t believe how the Stengle thing just went away and he played that weekend. How?

 

[gambinotosserflog]

I couldn’t believe how the Stengle thing just went away and he played that weekend. How?

does it really have to be spelled out

 

[M_Life23]

does it really have to be spelled out

Well yes please, that’s why I’m asking. Degoey hooked up with a chick in Bali consensually who publicly backed him as “nothing to see here move on” and he got banned for a week and fined $25k because the AFL world kicked up the biggest stink I’ve seen outside of the Essendon drug saga and the Carlton salary cap cheating.

 

[gambinotosserflog]

Well yes please, that’s why I’m asking. Degoey hooked up with a chick in Bali consensually who publicly backed him as “nothing to see here move on” and he got banned for a week and fined $25k because the AFL world kicked up the biggest stink I’ve seen outside of the Essendon drug saga and the Carlton salary cap cheating.

start with the really obvious differences between the two.