Confirmed Josh Battle [to Hawthorn as UFA]

[Jeremias]

Infractions and thread bans have been handed out.

Keep it civil and on topic, or keep it to yourself.

Thanks.

 

[ABAB]

He won’t need 1m to trigger band 1 in 2024.

He will need max 900k.

Potentially 850k with his 6 year deal

So new CBA isn't being fully factored but only partially? Sound very dodgy.

 

[stavro#4]

So new CBA isn't being fully factored but only partially? Sound very dodgy.

It’s based off the salary cap and there was only a small increase for the 2024 season.

Big jumps every year beginning next season until 2027

 

[ABAB]

It’s based off the salary cap and there was only a small increase for the 2024 season.

Big jumps every year beginning next season until 2027

It should take those years into account as well given the percentage of increase is known so clubs are taking into account them when offering contract otherwise it only benefit clubs with FA players this year. Players like Battle and Zurhaar being in the discussion of band 1 compensation wouldn't happen other years. They aren't May, Lynch or Daniher players.

 

[stavro#4]

It should take those years into account as well given the percentage of increase is known so clubs are taking into account them when offering contract otherwise it only benefit clubs with FA players this year. Players like Battle and Zurhaar being in the discussion of band 1 compensation wouldn't happen other years. They aren't May, Lynch or Daniher players.

It’s based on the salary % on the year the contract is given. No club has to offer these players more then they think they are worth and it would have applied to last seasons crop aswell.

 

[Atomboy]

This is turning into the Brad Crouch

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thread from a couple of years ago.

 

[Mostyn]

You haven't factored in frontloading.

McKay is one of those, hes close to the highest paid player in the comp in 2024, one you are claiming isn't earning near that amount.

I just gave you the stats, I don't need to factor in anything.

There is zero chance that Battle and Zurhaar will be in the top 44 contracts in the AFL.

Just be happy that you got a ridiculous charity pick with McKay. You don't have to get it every year.

 

[Mostyn]

He contract was front loaded.

So I wouldn’t be coming in all high and mighty saying he definitively won’t.

Clearly it’s close. That’s why the likes of Twomey are now discussing this.

They're discussing it because they have thousands of hours of content to fill.

Zurhaar and Battle aren't million dollar players.

 

[Mostyn]

He won’t need 1m to trigger band 1 in 2024.

He will need max 900k.

Potentially 850k with his 6 year deal

His contract will start in 2025.

In 2025, there will be upwards of 50 players receiving $1m a year.

Therefore, $900k won't cut it. And god knows he shouldn't be receiving that either.

 

[Mostyn]

It’s based off the salary cap and there was only a small increase for the 2024 season.

Big jumps every year beginning next season until 2027

That helped for McKay and Doedee, but it won't from next season.

Any new contract for the 2025 season onwards is measured against the new cap.

 

[Mostyn]

It’s based on the salary % on the year the contract is given. No club has to offer these players more then they think they are worth and it would have applied to last seasons crop aswell.

It is based against all existing signed contracts - which wont mean past contracts (i.e. what they were paid for 2024). It compares the deal signed for 2025 onwards with all contracts for 2025 on.

 

[HairyO]

The melts from people in here.

The system is functioning exactly as it should.

Don’t ****ing poach bottom 4 sides best talent and top 3-4 picks won’t be awarded.

It’s there to prevent teams from being picked off continually and staying bottom 4 forever.

So for St Kilda to get overs is exactly as it should function.

In fact, I’d like to see a +20% loading on the compensation results for bottom 4 clubs losing any player to FA.

The servers might explode when people realize that Zurhaar is every chance to trigger Band 1 also.

He’s had a 5 x $750k deal from North on the table for 4 months and hasn’t signed it.

Collingwood will be offering more than that. And there’s every chance the AFL will be amending the formula to allow for tenure this period according to Twomey.

Your McKay was not "best talent" nor is Battle St Kilda's. Zurhaar too, is not "best talent".

 

[MickG88]

Has he EVER been a top ten in the B+F?

Back-to-back Jack: Sinclair named Saints’ best once again

Another stellar season from Jack Sinclair has been rewarded with a second Trevor Barker Medal

www.afl.com.au

 

[MickG88]

Imagine if Battle played for Western Bulldogs or Essendon and this conversation is happening. The amount of disgusted for the Saint potentially getting a band 1 for Battle is crazy. So many salty fans.

 

[A1fromDay1]

I have no issues with the Saints getting band 1 after the Roos got band 1 for McKay & Frawley got for the Dees.

We have a similar offer on the table for Perryman who may also get band 1 compensation, imagine the salty comments after that...

The only logical way to fix this is the compensation needs to change so that band 1 is not in the first round but end of first.

If players like McKay, Battle etc were given pick 19 as compo noone would care.

 

[Sphynx]

I have no issues with the Saints getting band 1 after the Roos got band 1 for McKay & Frawley got for the Dees.

We have a similar offer on the table for Perryman who may also get band 1 compensation, imagine the salty comments after that...

The only logical way to fix this is the compensation needs to change so that band 1 is not in the first round but end of first.

If players like McKay, Battle etc were given pick 19 as compo noone would care.

And will only prolongate teams at the bottom even longer.

There needs to be equalization for bottom 4 having their best players poached

 

[Sphynx]

Your McKay was not "best talent" nor is Battle St Kilda's. Zurhaar too, is not "best talent".

McKay led the league in intercept marks and contested marks for key defenders 12 months before he left, what exactly would you call that?

 

[HairyO]

McKay led the league in intercept marks and contested marks for key defenders 12 months before he left, what exactly would you call that?

The Roos giving up 80 inside 50s a week while other teams give up 40.

Raw stats generally mean little.

 

[jumperfan]

McKay led the league in intercept marks and contested marks for key defenders 12 months before he left, what exactly would you call that?

A lot of people in this thread are confusing "best talent in the league" with "best talent available".

 

[BIGHAWK23]

GONE

 

[marcus1232]

GONE

Agreed
Just got to pray the comp roulette rolls in our favor.

had 6x900 on the table from us so got to assume he is getting more than that hopefully

 

[EconomicDecline]

I have no issues with the Saints getting band 1 after the Roos got band 1 for McKay & Frawley got for the Dees.

We have a similar offer on the table for Perryman who may also get band 1 compensation, imagine the salty comments after that...

The only logical way to fix this is the compensation needs to change so that band 1 is not in the first round but end of first.

If players like McKay, Battle etc were given pick 19 as compo noone would care.

Ridiculous. Imagine if a Lynch situation happens again.

 

[puntking]

GONE

Love these options when they really don’t have any idea, but to be fair when contracts on hold till end of year usually means they going

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

Ridiculous. Imagine if a Lynch situation happens again.

If only compo was never provided. Would avoid all these tantrums

 

[EconomicDecline]

If only compo was never provided. Would avoid all these tantrums

So big clubs can just poach players that have been developed by smaller clubs, even paying them less money?

 

[Back Pocket Rocket]

So big clubs can just poach players that have been developed by smaller clubs, even paying them less money?

Yep. Would encourage clubs to be better The cap space is what you receive ala the NBA.