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Judd V Hodge
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Our recruiting staff did and helped push Judda$' price up and putting pressure on your salary cap.
Pretty good post. As a midfielder, Judda$ is very good at this stage and in his career is more proven than Hodge.
But as a forward and defender, Hodge has him beat. Hodge can go in the midfield if required and Judda$ cannot (or refuses) to move back (possibly from fear of actually manning up on another player for a change).
Has anyone actually seen Judda$ take an overhead mark? Footballers with good all round skills should be able to do so you would think.
Don't be bringing intelligence into Bay 13!
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Tassie are running out of options for hodge , cant get a kick in the midfield , cant get a kick as a backmen now teams are not letting him seagul around...
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It would be fair to suggest Hodge would not be in the top 20 players in the AFL. Where as Judd would be top 5.
Hodgey looked a shadow of his 2008 self yesterday. Summed by the uncontested chest mark he dropped late in the last quarter when the pressure was on.
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Completely exposed when accountability is brought into play.... Looking back this may be a big reason Hawks lost so many games with Hodge in the midfield... Makes you wonder how many BOG's his player got.
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Let's talk about the time when campbell brown lays a bump and a poor blueboy can't get up...
It was a first year player knob and I am sure nikky and fev for that matter are feeling pretty proud of themselves on how good they were at roughing him up.
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dorks supporters are still filthy about choosing fatty ahead of juddy in the draft...lol
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Regardless of whether the 50m was there or not, Fev got the ball in his hands from that free kick (because your forward line was open, because no 50m was given). I fail to see how you were disadvantaged.
On topic, Sewell beat Judd on Saturday.
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Clutching at straws there.
Dont even know why I am saying this because typically Bay 13 posters really don't have half an ounce of footy brains amongst them, and really don't give a flying f*** about the game, but the midfield battle on saturday was incredible...Judd and Murph, head to head with Mitchell and Sewell was absolutely out of the top drawer. Congrats to all 4 players.
Go Blues!
The first minute his suspension ends I guess
Poor podgey - Hawks have beaten Carlton, Sewell shades Judd, Fev hits the post with the game-winning kick - all his planets have alligned and he just happens to be carded. Gold
I'm guessing he's filling the void down at his local public toilet, writing "Judd sux" and "Hodge rulz" on cublicle walls
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What are you talking about, clutching at straws?
Sewell played better than Judd. Sewell was the unstoppable clearance machine, and I think our best player.
You would prefer not to think of it as a head to head battle, both the midfields were outstanding, hurrah three cheers for everyone? No, we put our best clearance player on your weapon, and we won. Judd doesn't work in the other direction, and it cost you. It might've cost you more, had all those non-holding-the-ball decisions gone the other way.
Never mind, you tried, play on.
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Slightly ignorant call there. It's obvious you don't really know what you are talking about and just going along with media hype.
Hodge had recurring OP early on his career. He was held back, hardly able to train and played half-seasons. Peter Schwab used him to pinch hit in a variety of roles: centre, half back, full forward. He was never settled.
After shoulder surgery when he was 17, Chris Judd had a much smoother ride into the AFL and settled in alongside Cousins, Kerr, Embley, Fletcher, Braun, Wirrpanda, etc, for the all-conquering Weagles teams.
Judd > Hodge in 2002, 2003 and 2004
Hodge finally did his first full pre-season in 2005. He dominated games all season in the centre, with occasional stints as "quarterback", depending on the opposition. He literally polled TWICE as many best and fairests votes as the 2nd placegetter (All-Australian, Peter Everitt) It was the most one of the most runaway Crimmins Medal counts ever... Most people didn't notice because Hawthorn were bottom 4.
In 2005, Judd did not show the same electric form as in his 2004 Brownlow year and he was nowhere near as dominant as his MVP season in 2006. Cousins and Kerr were the Eagles best midfielders in 2005. Judd's performances in the finals were very good, although he was perhaps lucky to win the Norm Smith. He was the flashiest player on the field, but most of his 29 possessions were ineffective. Many good judges rated Amon Buchanan's game as superior.
Hodge > Judd in 2005
Hodge showed brilliant form early on in 2006, averaging 32+ possessions each week and dominating games. He received an ankle injury in round 7 and then had to battle his way through most of the season at half pace, still contributing, averaging 25-26 possessions, but he couldn't run or train as hard. That he still finished runner up in the B&F in testament to his ability to play under duress.
Judd was simply brilliant in 2006. His best season by far. Carlton fans can only wish they see similar explosiveness from the 'great man' in navy blue as he showed that season.
Judd > Hodge in 2006
In 2007, Chris Judd started out in similar fashion, before slowly feeling the effects of a groin complaint (OP?). In round 9, he went head to head with arguably the AFL's best tagger, Brad Sewell (at that stage it was was Ling vs Sewell threads,) Sewell curtailed Judd's effectiveness and continually harassed Judd's every possession. In one play, he ran him down from behind and laid a brilliant tackle, which aggravated Judd's injury. Judd played out the season, but he was pretty useless. A sad sight.
By contrast, Hodge had a fantastic 2007 season, used all over the ground, at CHB early on, up forward, in the midfield. You'll have to ask Robert Walls why he was left out of the All-Australian team. Or maybe ask the chairman of selectors, Andy Demetriou.
In 2008, Hodge was clearly better than Judd, despite what those biased Carlton idiots think. He also would've been a far better choice than Judd as All-Australian captain. Most people laughed when Judd's name was announced. He was lucky to even make the team.
Hodge > Judd in 2007 and 2008
Hodge went under the knife during the 2009 pre-season and missed all of the praccy games. Hence his slow start. By contrast, Judd had his best pre-season since 2006 and was "back to his best".
So far in the first 6 rounds of 2009, Judd > Hodge. Personally, I think he's been a bit overrated. Carlton fans and commentators get very excited whenever he touches the ball, but they fail to notice that 50% of his possessions are ordinary. I think Marc Murphy has been better than Judd, but I'm sure Judd will probably get most of the 3 votes from umpires in the Goodes Brownlow Medal.
Over the past 5 years, Hodge has been superior to Judd in three seasons
Judd has received 10 times more publicity for his injuries than Luke Hodge has received for his injuries. People made excuses for Judd, but they criticised Hodge.
Bottom line, I would take Hodge over Judd any day of the week. When I see Hodge drop back in the hole, stick his body on the line in front of a charging Fevola and punch the ball to the boundary line, I think to myself, "What an inspirational, tough footballer he is!"
When was the last time Chris Judd put his body on the line in a marking contest?
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What have you been smoking?
Chewy puts up a well constructed argument to back his statement up and that is your rebuttal? You might answer your own question or come up with a well constructed response.
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Did you even read my post?
Sherrthecat said it was only in 2008 that Hodge was superior to Judd.
This is factually incorrect.
There is no debate about the 2007 and 2008 seasons. Hodge was clearly superior to Judd.
2005 is more contentious. Judd played okay (by his standards) for a high profile team, whereas Hodge was brilliant for a bottom 4 team. Hodge would've won the Brownlow if Hawthorn had won more games. Polled 15 votes and we won just 5 games.
This thread makes me laugh. Judd is better than Hodge because he had 34 possies to 16 on Saturday...
Typical Carlton whackers. One's a midfielder, the other was playing in defence. Hodge isn't even close to full fitness or peak form. Judd is at the top of his game and he was beaten by Sewell.
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