Current Julie Cutler - Murder - 1988 - Cottesloe WA *To the Coroner

[BFew]

Inquest into the Suspected death of Julie CUTLER

https://www.coronerscourt.wa.gov.au/_files/Inquest_2023/CUTLER, Julie Leanne.pdf (49 pages)
'[2023] WACOR 19
JURISDICTION : CORONER'S COURT OF WESTERN AUSTRALIA
ACT : CORONERS ACT 1996
CORONER : SARAH HELEN LINTON, DEPUTY STATE CORONER HEARD :
3 - 4 NOVEMBER 2022 DELIVERED : 6 APRIL 2023
FILE NO/S : CORC 830 of 2019
DECEASED : CUTLER, JULIE LEANNE'

 

[GreyCrow]

Looking forward to the barrage of evidence not made public yet.

As we all are. Then there will be laughing and pointing

 

[BlueE]

[QUOTE="shellyg, post: 53667496, member: 178298"Inserted"? This is a public forum of which I've been a member for nearly a year and a regular contributor to CSK threads.[/QUOTE]
Right ... a regular contibutor, as metic!!

Had a look around.

So why bring metic on here?

... and please don't bring on the we're only good friends routine!

 

[BlueE]

That an admission of being ExcaliburX Dan?

By the way, I heard a rumour Michelle had died. Lot of Michelle's around though, above and below ground.

Good point. Lots of Michelle's around.

Which of them is responsible for what in this story?

Even with Julie Cutler was one of the Michelle's involved?

There was information police were looking for a male and a female who were last to see her alive.

Birnie's were locked up but someone taking a page out of their playbook?

 

[Kurve]

Right ... a regular contibutor, as metic!!

Had a look around.

So why bring metic on here?

... and please don't bring on the we're only good friends routine!

LOL Peak paranoia in this thread.

First I'm accused of being some old dead man's dead ex girlfriend who used to be a hooker, a heroin addict and did far worse than the Claremont serial killer now I think you're accusing me of operating two accounts under different identities?

I'm not doing that but you want to tell me why you think I might sherlock?

 

[BlueE]

This is a public forum of which I've been a member for nearly a year and a regular contributor to CSK threads.

Meticulously contributing to CSK threads.

 

[Kurve]

Meticulously contributing to CSK threads.

WTF are you on about? Are you spying on or stalking another user and attempting to connect it to me somehow? Totally inappropriate if so. It's none of my business what other users are doing, if you have any questions I suggest you ask them!

 

[metic]

[QUOTE="shellyg, post: 53667496, member: 178298"Inserted"? This is a public forum of which I've been a member for nearly a year and a regular contributor to CSK threads.

Right ... a regular contibutor, as metic!!

Had a look around.

So why bring metic on here?

... and please don't bring on the we're only good friends routine![/QUOTE]my ~ 9 month ban got lifted and i noticed i could return to these threads

 

[metic]

LOL Peak paranoia in this thread.

First I'm accused of being some old dead man's dead ex girlfriend who used to be a hooker, a heroin addict and did far worse than the Claremont serial killer now I think you're accusing me of operating two accounts under different identities?

I'm not doing that but you want to tell me why you think I might sherlock?

yeah thats right MB is deceased !

 

[Kurve]

yeah thats right MB is deceased !

One might think they'd know that metic if more time was spent spying on crooks rather than forum users.

 

[metic]

"Right ... a regular contibutor, as metic!!
Had a look around.
So why bring metic on here?
... and please don't bring on the we're only good friends routine"
_______________________________


The recent mentions of heroin and hookers
Really was what inspired a return here because i know a little something about the technical subject of that sly world..

 

[metic]

LOL Peak paranoia in this thread.

First I'm accused of being some old dead man's dead ex girlfriend who used to be a hooker, a heroin addict and did far worse than the Claremont serial killer now I think you're accusing me of operating two accounts under different identities?

I'm not doing that but you want to tell me why you think I might sherlock?

It seems like fours a crowd on this thread
Sorry Shellyg

 

[Kurve]

It seems like fours a crowd on this thread
Sorry Shellyg

Just ignore them metic, Dan and his alters aren't the three man crime busting show they think they are. It's all in their heads.

 

[Kurve]

All I asked was for "Michelle the hooker" (Drocs mate) and you came running in waving your hands in the air.

No ones paranoid, youve inserted yourself in a whole lot of uneccesarry comment.

Stop lying.

 

[GreyCrow]

Someone with authority on a football website has deleted posts. The inconsistency raises questions and possible liability. Wonder why?

Who did Droc say was involved?

BigFooty mods obviously

 

[SmartAlec]

What will be interesting, is distant relationships between the accused and some of the users here and Noel. I'm sure police will be playing connect four with what appears to be deflectors of the crime.

What is concerning, is Noels story characters, are actually in the forums and some are desperate to control the information with propaganda.

Just trying to summarise what Droc actually posted in 400 plus posts on BF.

CSK series.
A group (males and females).
Gerard Ross.
Two males in a station wagon.
Lisa Govan.
Lisa Brown.
Rituals and masks.
Fremantle.
Abandoned factory.
Wood Street, White Gum Valley.
Ginos at Fremantle.

All there in a previous thread. Who invited Droc on BF? Some of the users weren't exactly discrete with their identities, were they?

It’s these co-incidences that get to me. They shouldn't be there, but they are."

Since then an arrest, a raid and three high profile media appeals with new POI identified - all regarding what Droc posted.

http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/w...lers-are-still-out-there-20170922-gyn884.html

http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/r...-cold-case-of-lisa-govan-20171031-gzbx4o.html

http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/g...tion-on-1998-murder-case-20171207-h00x7h.html

"If there are still people in the community who have information who haven't yet come forward we urge them to do so now." - Good Response 8 December 2017.

Suppose that's what 60+ detectives have been working on, including the 30 odd from NSW?

The payback will be worth the investment.

 

[sprockets]

Someone with authority on a football website has deleted posts. Their inconsistency raises questions and possible liability. Wonder why?

Who did Droc say was involved?

A group.

Rituals in masks, didn't he say?

Copy that red leader?

Didn't Droc say it was a taxi driver who was CSK ad he knew which one? He was wrong. He ended up dead

Just trying to understand what you and Shelly are talking about. Pretty sure I was talking to Shelly and still may be. You say the first time you posted you copped a 9 month ban that wasn't lifted until now, but you only joined Nov 20, 2017? What do you get sin binned for that long for?

Shelly says she's regularly contributed to many CSK sites but where?

No Shelly, unless she has another name metic? I've asked the same of Dan on a couple of his reminiscing posts and some people have suggested same of Smarty!

My search is basic looking at names and not interested in who's who, only curious when you gang up and why.

Try back in January on this page for example https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/csk-thread-closed-again.1131135/page-43

Now, do you really think people are 'ganging up' or do you think that maybe people share similar opinions?

 

[Dan Baker]

I just wonder who this Fremantle tattooist is, and his heroin groupies discussed in the book on Mallard that hung around Glyde st? Unless the entire population of Fremantle does heroin, I ponder if the heroin addicts Droc associated with at Ginos, were in the same arena?

"A group of heroin addicts who hung around with a Fremantle tattooist were known to operate in the area; their names were added to a growing list. A woman saw a clean-shaven man acting suspiciously at the corner of View and Forrest streets; a friend of Pam's wanted to talk about ..."
https://books.google.com.au/books?isbn=1459613384

Julie Cutler went missing winter solstice. Her bag left at King Cafe; women left behind logs.

Not implying Mallard, but the Wicca culture was obviously dense around Glyde st.

Although many are harmless, I'm sure there is the odd extremist. Its all about energy lines and stuff. Ciara found in a half circle of grass trees with a radius some 33 feet away from a grid relative to the diameter facing east. While Ciara went missing the 14th, the 17th was the official St Patricks date, a pagan milestone in the year.
Pagans were never happy St Patrick arrived in Ireland, converting paganism to Catholicism throughout Ireland. Maybe the bricklayer did see that Ford Falcon Sunday morning for a reason?

According to Wiccan tradition the Winter Solstice is when the Goddess gives birth to a son, the God.
The God, who is represented by the sun, goes through a cycle of birth, initiation and death throughout the year.
By contrast the Goddess, represented by the moon, never dies and presides over the sun cycle.
To celebrate Yuletide Ms Elspeth and her coven of witches will light a log, known as a Yule log, using the ashes of last year's log.
They will then tell the story of the battle between the Holly King and the Oak King.
At Winter Solstice the Oak King wins, killing the Holly King.
"The Goddess, mourning the death of the Holly King, gives birth to the sun," said Ms McIntosh.
She said the Winter Solstice is a time to reflect on what has happened throughout the year.
"It's usually a very positive time," said Ms McIntosh. "People try to drop all of their dross."
"You do the best you can to really get into the ritual."
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-20/australian-witches-celebrate-winter-solstice/5539018

 

[GreyCrow]

I just wonder who this Fremantle tattooist is, and his heroin groupies discussed in the book on Mallard that hung around Glyde st?

"A group of heroin addicts who hung around with a Fremantle tattooist were known to operate in the area; their names were added to a growing list. A woman saw a clean-shaven man acting suspiciously at the corner of View and Forrest streets; a friend of Pam's wanted to talk about ..."
https://books.google.com.au/books?isbn=1459613384

What does Mallard have to do with Cutler?

 

[Kurve]

Didn't Droc say it was a taxi driver who was CSK ad he knew which one? He was wrong. He ended up dead

Try back in January on this page for example https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/csk-thread-closed-again.1131135/page-43

Now, do you really think people are 'ganging up' or do you think that maybe people share similar opinions?

Thanks Sprockets, I'd hoped to leave my crossdressing / steroid abusing / prescription hormone theories behind.

But ... what if I was right?

 

[metic]

Just trying to understand what you and Shelly are talking about. Pretty sure I was talking to Shelly and still may be. You say the first time you posted you copped a 9 month ban that wasn't lifted until now, but you only joined Nov 20, 2017? What do you get sin binned for that long for?

Shelly says she's regularly contributed to many CSK sites but where?

No Shelly, unless she has another name metic? I've asked the same of Dan on a couple of his reminiscing posts and some people have suggested same of Smarty!

My search is basic looking at names and not interested in who's who, only curious when you gang up and why.

To find that old former account BlueE
Look on my "following" list and you can see that "former account" member, started on 2-2-17 who was last seen 7-4-17 .

The ban comment made was "just a feeling i get" in regard to some funny talk about Lake Claremont.
Can you stop questioning me now please ?
If you did the research first you could have found that account yourself.
Stalk the accounts, look at all the posts and follow lists instead, calling me out and being territorial, is poor form .

 

[Dan Baker]

For some reason all the girls are on these longitudy thing. Logic would be Sarah is on a longitudinal thingy also.
Cutler goes missing winter solstice.

According to Wiccan tradition the Winter Solstice is when the Goddess gives birth to a son, the God.
The God, who is represented by the sun, goes through a cycle of birth, initiation and death throughout the year.
By contrast the Goddess, represented by the moon, never dies and presides over the sun cycle.
To celebrate Yuletide Ms Elspeth and her coven of witches will light a log, known as a Yule log, using the ashes of last year's log.
They will then tell the story of the battle between the Holly King and the Oak King.
At Winter Solstice the Oak King wins, killing the Holly King.
"The Goddess, mourning the death of the Holly King, gives birth to the sun," said Ms McIntosh.
She said the Winter Solstice is a time to reflect on what has happened throughout the year.
"It's usually a very positive time," said Ms McIntosh. "People try to drop all of their dross."
"You do the best you can to really get into the ritual."
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-20/australian-witches-celebrate-winter-solstice/5539018

 

[SmartAlec]

Maybe someone wanted their own version?

"Two Patricks" theory. ... O'Rahilly proposed the "Two Patricks" theory, which suggests that many of the traditions later attached to Saint Patrick actually concerned the aforementioned Palladius, who Prosper of Aquitaine's Chronicle says was sent by Pope Celestine I as the first bishop to Irish Christians in 431.

The Irish-born Saint Ciarán of Saigir lived in the later fourth century (352–402) and was the first bishop of Ossory. Ciaran, along with saints Auxilius, Secundinus and Iserninus, is also associated with early churches in Munster and Leinster. By this reading, Palladius was active in Ireland until the 460s.[22]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Patrick

Ciarian is the masculine version of Ciara I think. Fancy Ciara going missing at St Patrick celebrations.

Ciara is an Irish female name from the Gaelic “Ciarán” meaning “little dark one” or "little black one". The male (Ciarán) and female (Ciara) versions of this name have been in use in Ireland for over 1,500 years! ... In other words, Ciarán and Ciara are both ancient and illustrious Irish names.
www.ohbabynames.com/meaning/name/ciara/551
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciara_(given_name)

Im struggling to fathom he's done all this premeditated homework on his own in his Huntingdale Primary School library? Is this a Curtin Uni subject? I guess the internets were around but cant remember whether all this content was available at that point?

Regards,
Mr Tinfoil Whacko Kooky

If this turns out to be true, along with the other aspects alluded to, anyone associated are hardly going to win any popularity contests - inside or out - with the general population.

As to the question about premeditated homework, our boy doesn't seem smart enough without a lot of assistance on evil planning (MOO of course).

The international experts said,

"The overseas investigator told the POST that there was a high possibility that the Claremont murderer had been killing for many years before and was still operating"

"He is highly organised, very, very clever and has his methods of entrapping and killing women down to a fine art," he said.

"It was likely he had some sort of security or military training."

Someone mentioned military and high IQ. They got arrested.

Then again, my opinion doesn't count for much.

After all, I just carry out orders.

 

[Dan Baker]

You only have to start reading about the "The Zodiac" and there is similar attributes right through the case.

Zodiacs geodetic datum, dodd, doddman, or deadman was Mt Diablo.

Telstra training was in Manning apparently, named after a civil engineer in Ley St

Best regards,
Mr Tinfoil Whacko Kooky

 

[GreyCrow]

Was it the bricklayer saw the Falcon on the Sunday morning?

St Patricks day 1997 was Monday.
https://print-a-calendar.com/holiday/st.-patricks-day/1997

MORE than 17 years after Ciara Glennon’s body was found in dense bushland 45km north of Perth, a local man has come forward with information that puts a taxi at the scene.
The taxi had its headlights off as it turned off Pipidinny Rd, Eglinton, on to Wanneroo Rd in the pre-dawn darkness, the Two Rocks resident told The Sunday Times. He said he had to hit his brakes to avoid hitting it.
The bricklayer, now 62, said about 4.30am on a Sunday morning in March 1997 he was heading south on Wanneroo Rd, from Yanchep to his work site at Nollamara, when he saw the taxi begin turning out of Pipidinny Rd in front of him.



Police will focus on what puts the ball in the hole. This is all circumstantial.

In Deb Marshalls book they already look at the dates, saying in the case of Jane, there was no holiday here, but the east was the Queens birthday. The thing is, Janes abduction was exactly on Columbia feast date which is shared by pagans also I would say. While many Christian holidays share pagan dates, and season cusps, police were lost at Janes abduction date.
Those three patron saint dates are the pattern in the case, along with Cutlers winter solstice.
Janes Columbia date takes it beyond just weekend prior.

Fancy having a name Cutler, disappearing from a hospitality staff event from your own hotel carpark. Police want to speak to the man and woman that walked out behind her that staff could not identify.

Police must have the colour of the car that tried run Julie off the road. Julie reported this incident to police and her father. The same colour of the speedway rally car that abducted Dorothy from another hotel weeks surround Julies disappearance?

The accused was registered on a GPS website with a handheld GPS that offered assistance locally with GPS and a sim-less radio tracking device being adopted by the military at the time. An interest in mapping.

Dorothy's abduction tells a story. He wears rough speedway driving gloves, has a metal bucket seat passenger bomber seat.
He grabs Dorothy by the hair, smashes the crap out of her then wraps her in glad wrap. He then punches her in the kidneys till she defecates herself. He seeks their ultimate submission.
What does that say about him? Hes weak.

It might establish motive, but it wont put someone in jail.

Thanks. This is all new to me

 

[theartofwar]

Which industry spray paints the Zodiac symbol on roads Kook? Surprised you haven't mentioned this yet.