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This thread has had 5 years to probe and try solve this cold case mystery.

7 hours in here would be just about enough time to fend off a troll, accuse someone of working for the Police, and forget slabs of what was previously posted or read from this thread.

'Phil Hickey: Seven hours was simply not enough time to probe Julie Cutler’s 34-year-old cold case mystery'
'Wed, 9 November 2022 5:00AM'
There was too much that was not addressed at the inquest. I agree with Phil, a case like this deserves more time and more inquiry.
 
reading the latest news articles I read that the car was found "floating" , and that the car battery "washed up" . I don't believe either are possible, car batteries are heavy with lead aren't they ? the waves were not powerful (after monday 20/6/88, Tuesday & Wednesday fairly calm)
bet the battery fell out and stayed right there on the sea floor. perhaps during the retrieval it fell out - as car was dragged upside down.
the car was sunken and was not floating either. news reporters; please don't write clickbaity garbage about a missing persons 3 decades past.

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'please don't write clickbaity garbage about a missing persons 3 decades past.' Yes, indeed!
 
At the inquest they said it was in neutral and the key in the ignition was in the on position, which implies that it was running. They also said that the car didn't need to have been accelerated into the ocean, it could have been running, in neutral and pushed down the hill.

Simply rolling it down on that slope would see it pick up to a decent enough speed. If it went off the shelf, someone was either in it steering or running along beside. I think you posted it went off the retainer wall in an earlier post, did the inquiry hear if they know exactly where on the wall it went off, I'd imagined it went off the shelf indicated by the short blue line?


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At the inquest they said it was in neutral and the key in the ignition was in the on position, which implies that it was running. They also said that the car didn't need to have been accelerated into the ocean, it could have been running, in neutral and pushed down the hill.

Turning the ignition on and putting it in neutral will stop the steering from locking on to stuck in one position without the ability to guide the car, if someone else ditched it that's how I think it would probably need to be done. Unless it didn't have steering lock but I think even an older Fiat probably would have.
 
At the inquest they said that there was damage to the corner of the wall, I think it may have been where I have circled? They showed a photo of it, but it was a close up. it was wouldn't have been on the other end though... A chunk of it had been knocked off and they think it was the car that did it ... bigwood69, do you recall this?
Was the road that I have marked there in 1988??? I am not sure how much this area has been modified.
 

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At the inquest they said that there was damage to the corner of the wall, I think it may have been where I have circled? They showed a photo of it, but it was a close up. it was wouldn't have been on the other end though... A chunk of it had been knocked off and they think it was the car that did it ... bigwood69, do you recall this?
Was the road that I have marked there in 1988??? I am not sure how much this area has been modified.
I wonder if we can get a copy of the photo of the wall?
 
At the inquest they said that there was damage to the corner of the wall, I think it may have been where I have circled? They showed a photo of it, but it was a close up. it was wouldn't have been on the other end though... A chunk of it had been knocked off and they think it was the car that did it ... bigwood69, do you recall this?
Was the road that I have marked there in 1988??? I am not sure how much this area has been modified.

Wow ... we looked at the other service road where you've marked but saw stairs. Unless the stairs/steps were put in later? I'll have another look.
 
At the inquest they said that there was damage to the corner of the wall, I think it may have been where I have circled? They showed a photo of it, but it was a close up. it was wouldn't have been on the other end though... A chunk of it had been knocked off and they think it was the car that did it ... bigwood69, do you recall this?
Was the road that I have marked there in 1988??? I am not sure how much this area has been modified.
I do recall them talking about damage to the wall I think. They brought up the fact that somebody had asked Roger about concrete in the car, and they said they thought it came from the fact the found some concrete in or on the car and theorised that it was from the retaining wall. I.e., they thought the female officer Roger spoke to on the phone was asking if there was any other reason there might be concrete in the car, and that somehow evolved into there being concrete blocks in the car (chinese whispers I guess?). But yes, I think they said the car did some damage to the concrete wall but I wasn't entirely clear on how or where.
 
I wonder if we can get a copy of the photo of the wall?

The stairs on that service road where you've marked look like they've been there forever. I'm not suggesting the car didn't go down that way because it could have if there was a clear entry but it would have been pretty rough and I can't imagine again, that she was in the car unless she was blind drunk and made some sort of wrong turn but even then yeah nah, it looks like it requires a tight turn to get on to it.

It's also quite a bit further out to the reef the car had settled on, if it went down that stepped service road and not the other.
 
Wow ... we looked at the other service road where you've marked but saw stairs. Unless the stairs/steps were put in later? I'll have another look.
Stairs... good point. At the inquest they just said "top of the hill".. I guess if she accidentally rolled down stairs in her car drunk that would make sense thought.. the car would be harder to stop and control. She might have totally freaked out??
 

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The stairs on that service road where you've marked look like they've been there forever. I'm not suggesting the car didn't go down that way because it could have if there was a clear entry but it would have been pretty rough and I can't imagine again, that she was in the car unless she was blind drunk and made some sort of wrong turn but even then yeah nah, it looks like it requires a tight turn to get on to it.

It's also quite a bit further out to the reef the car had settled on, if it went down that stepped service road and not the other.
She drank 3 champagnes one after the other when she got there, then continued drinking. Witnesses said that she didn't drink often so would get drunk fairly quickly and easily. I wouldn't want to be driving an old Fiat in a storm even after 3 champagnes alone!
 
At the inquest they said that there was damage to the corner of the wall, I think it may have been where I have circled? They showed a photo of it, but it was a close up. it was wouldn't have been on the other end though... A chunk of it had been knocked off and they think it was the car that did it ... bigwood69, do you recall this?
Was the road that I have marked there in 1988??? I am not sure how much this area has been modified.
That is the side I had always assumed the car went down.
 
I'll be there next weekend, I'll take a look. They'll probably have repaired the damage tho but i'll get some photos of various walls :) I'll also see if I can get a copy of the actual photo, though it's doubtful I will given my track record with getting any kind of information from the police!
 
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Perhaps this is it? Btw - the system at work has gone down ... that is why I am here.
 

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That is the side I had always assumed the car went down.

I can't imagine anybody trying to cover up a crime using the terraced side, that's if the other access road was available. No guarantee by letting it go at the top it would end up in the sea either, it might have got stuck and I'm not sure anybody would want to run along side a car going down hill over steps. If the steps were there.

Kids might think it was hilarious to let it go at the top but they'd have to have found her car, probably in a/the carpark with the keys in it.
 
I posted a case breakdown to reddit earlier today and someone raised the point of a possible accident, but my thought process is why would she go that way in the first place? She must have meant to go to the beach, it's a wee bit of a detour right?. Maybe she just wanted to take the scenic route since she supposedly loved Cott, but still. I do think driving off the road/missing the turn is a possibility but then I do still wonder why she went down there.
 
I can't imagine anybody trying to cover up a crime using the terraced side, that's if the other access road was available. No guarantee by letting it go at the top it would end up in the sea either, it might have got stuck and I'm not sure anybody would want to run along side a car going down hill over steps. If the steps were there.

Kids might think it was hilarious to let it go at the top but they'd have to have found her car, probably in a/the carpark with the keys in it.
I can see your point, but it could explain all the dents and scrapes down the sides of the car. It was only a small car and may have just fitted into walk way. I just cant see it getting the same damage going down the other open service road.
 

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