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several people i know have sent letters to Alcock asking him not to appoint Sumich haha, i don't think they are doing that about the other candidates
Coach Justin Longmuir
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I don’t know for sure but I’m 99.99% sure. I’m putting 2+2 together. The Malaysian/English vocabulary, the reference to Gold Coast whom Peel67Skin supports...
I’d be prepared to give Clive a year just for the hell of it
Hey if he coaches like he played anything is possible
If he flops we’ll know by rd 10 we can go for the interim coach and hope for the Teague effect
Funny. Should I put money on Brent Guerra.
No, it's worse... could you imagine the crap those weasels would be spewing out like Freo only won a flag because of some eagles leftovers making it happen.
He should never have been brought into the club in the first place and he absolutely can not be a leader of this club.
this goes against the modern "professional era" of football but some traditions like club loyalty must be observed. this is how we build a strong culture.
And...I think he is a bit of knob too
- Sep 27, 2018
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Can you guys imagine if clive was our coach bruce mcavaney would have an aneurysm.
The press conferences would be even more interesting than ross lyons.
Cause of his shaun mccmanus comments we know he places a high emphasis on skill.
Looking forward to the accidental swear words.
The press conferences would be even more interesting than ross lyons.
Cause of his shaun mccmanus comments we know he places a high emphasis on skill.
Looking forward to the accidental swear words.
Freo are hiring a Senior Coach not a media relations person. we need to get the best possible coach available.
If Freo need to build a better relationship with the media then they should hire PR or communications manager.
if the Sumich's best attribute is his relationship with the media then maybe we should hire him as the communications manager
- Apr 15, 2013
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Round 1: Fremantle v Adelaide - Sumich v Lyon. Would be amazing, someone might be killed on the field.
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As much as I was on the sack Lyon bandwagon, he would of had us in the finals next year.
We all talk about needing to be more of a family club and having a good culture but adversity brings family together and cements long lasting great culture. I hate to think that with the first sign of adversity the fan base didnt stick their heals in and not just continue the support but give more when it was needed. The board bow to the popular vote and all the hard work is lost.
Im not saying something didn't need to change, but have any of us thought if it is us, the supporters, the revenue stream, the people that were most critical (even more then the media) that are the change that is needed to embrace and start that family culture.
We all ask what is it that makes a club great, one that wins flags and hearts. The top clubs seem to have a fan base thats along for the ride, the ups and downs and the in-between.
Who ever the next coach is I hope the club and the fans embrace the family first culture and create the long lasting backbone we have chopped off too fast in the past.
Just thoughts and pondering's
We all talk about needing to be more of a family club and having a good culture but adversity brings family together and cements long lasting great culture. I hate to think that with the first sign of adversity the fan base didnt stick their heals in and not just continue the support but give more when it was needed. The board bow to the popular vote and all the hard work is lost.
Im not saying something didn't need to change, but have any of us thought if it is us, the supporters, the revenue stream, the people that were most critical (even more then the media) that are the change that is needed to embrace and start that family culture.
We all ask what is it that makes a club great, one that wins flags and hearts. The top clubs seem to have a fan base thats along for the ride, the ups and downs and the in-between.
Who ever the next coach is I hope the club and the fans embrace the family first culture and create the long lasting backbone we have chopped off too fast in the past.
Just thoughts and pondering's
Not disagreeing with the general premise of the board not pandering to spectators views and I can hear partially the argument about the spectator changing, but:
(1) from what I can see, the supporters in "top clubs" regularly do also dig into their coaches and players when they are not winning. Not saying it is right but the supporters doing it doesn't stop them being what they are; and
(2) I'm not sure football or indeed most professional sports has family culture anymore; you only need to look at the gambling advertising, the various attempts at diversification of branding, social moralising to pander to various activist groups, geographical diversification etc. to assume this is all about money. A "good" family to the AFL or one of it's clubs is one which with "many parts" (hopefully lots of parents with multiple partners) that create lots of kids without strong family role models who are easy marketing targets to worship a bunch of crazy women and men running around an oval doing arrow gestures when they kick a goal. That can all probably be well defined in terms of a random utility function associated with the probability of someone taking up a membership or buying a mascot stuffed toy. Or going on BigFooty to whinge the coming out of it buying a whatever is being advertised in the banners.
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For 4 years in a row we hit the bye in pretty good shape only to fall off a cliff, who's to say it wouldn't have happened again next year if Lyon was there. We needed a change in game plan and a new face around the area, maybe someone willing to try players in different positions and someone who might actually be interested in an attacking game style.
The decision is done now. It's impossible to definitively know whether it was the right one or not, but generally a new coach means the focus is on integrating new ideas and game styles as the coach and players sync with each other, over going up the next level in competitiveness as a team. This means teething issues for at least a season or maybe more.
Freo's list is still young and has been in a state of flux since 2016 so that won't aid any plug'n'play with a new coach.
The relevant decision in play is who the next coach is. Get that right and teething's on a shorter timeframe, get it wrong and it could mean another 3-5 years of treading water and ultimately more turmoil.
Freo's list is still young and has been in a state of flux since 2016 so that won't aid any plug'n'play with a new coach.
The relevant decision in play is who the next coach is. Get that right and teething's on a shorter timeframe, get it wrong and it could mean another 3-5 years of treading water and ultimately more turmoil.
I was firmly in the keep Ross brigade and I'm still bemused about what has happened and given player availability, Lyon would have had us playing finals next year (and would have this year without so many injuries).
Having said that, I accept that it's done now and we just have to make sure we get the right team of coaches to go forward, but if uniting the fanbase behind this new era is one of the objectives then hiring Sumich is not the way forward.
I'll get behind just about anyone except Sumich.
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Just the get the right man for the job. If Sumich is the right man and ticks all the boxes, then that's who should be the coach, if it's Longmuir, get him in. Same for Solomon, Voss or any other potential candidates. Who gives a **** what West Coast fans think? This is about our club, nobody else.
3 years, but your point still stands.
I agree with the sentiment, but...
It's unlikely there's definitively one right person and it could be hard to tell exactly who that is, just who you might be more sure of given the available evidence. The available evidence of Sumich suggests from here that he wouldn't be an absolutely standout to take the reins and this is where his baggage as far as Freo becomes a factor.
So it's likely you're going to get someone as bankable (but likely more bankable), but who has more "clean air" to start the role with.
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Latest Clarko rumour I've heard - he stayed at Alcock's holiday home recently and is unhappy with the current culture developing at the Hawks.
(Don't shoot the messenger - and take with a grain of salt)
(Don't shoot the messenger - and take with a grain of salt)
Scott Burns is now an odds-on favourite to replace Don Pyke as the new coach of the Adelaide Crows.
Burns, 44, who played 256 games for Collingwood after being drafted by Norwood in 1992 continues to be the name that many speculate will get the job in 2020.
Burns is understood to have been pipped for the Adelaide job in 2011 by Brenton Sanderson and has long been touted as a potential senior coach having spent time as an assistant coach at West Coast, Collingwood and now Hawthorn.
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This seems to have become received wisdom now so it's probably pointless to address, but this is definitely not true. 2016 there was no cliff to fall off, we were crap all season, 2017 and 2018 it was pure luck we had as many wins as we did to the bye. Every indicator showed us as a bottom 4 team: Percentage, model position etc. We could just as easily have gone 4 and 18 both years. This year is the only one we could reasonably be described as having fallen off a cliff.
This post also points at something weird in some of the Lyon criticism. Having not been fired for playing a big hand in where we found ourselves at the end of 2016, I.E. rebuilding, do people really think that if someone else had been coaching during that period (17 & 18), with a shiny new gameplan and all, we would have performed better? We turned over nearly 75% of the list! Playing poorly and anchoring the ladder is what happens when you turn over the list!
You think he should have done better this year and should be fired for not making the finals? Fine. You think this year was acceptable given the injuries but didn't think he was the coach to take us forward? Fine. It certainly shouldn't be for how we played while bottoming out though.
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Assuming the Clarkson rumour is just that...
Longmuir Senior Coach
Choco Williams Director of Coaching
Voss Senior Assistant
Hodge Development Coach
Suma Peel Coach
Balme GM of Football
Bell CEO
Longmuir Senior Coach
Choco Williams Director of Coaching
Voss Senior Assistant
Hodge Development Coach
Suma Peel Coach
Balme GM of Football
Bell CEO
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People realise that Balme a) Hasn't lived in WA for nearly 50 years and b) is nearly 70 right?
My mail on Clarko is 100% on the money. He was here, buying a house. just have to figure out if it was an investment property..
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If e out of some miracle managed to snag Clarkson, surely it'd be the biggest coach steal in history yeah? That would be phenomenal
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