Coach Justin Longmuir

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Don’t care if our new coach isn’t a good media performer. As long as he’s genuine and has self awareness. The 2 things a great media performer like Ross Lyon wasn’t and didn’t have.


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He's an excuses man. It's never his fault, or his teams fault, or the club's fault. It's the roof, or the umpires, or some other random excuse. How can he get better as a coach, or the club get better and succeed, if you're not recognising and building on any issues you have.
All coaches make excuses, doesn't mean they don't address issues away from media spotlight.. Of course they want to talk up team and its culture in public.
Anyway seems like a pretty mild criticism compared to his obvious attributes which I listed.
 
All coaches make excuses, doesn't mean they don't address issues away from media spotlight.. Of course they want to talk up team and its culture in public.
Anyway seems like a pretty mild criticism compared to his obvious attributes which I listed.
but he doesn't talk up his team and culture.
And his attributes of being a long term coach with bad player retention and no success and a worse win/loss ratio than our last coach. I'd rather have kept Lyon.
 

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So what's wrong with Brad Scott?

Star player for Lions
Tough as nails
Very solid coaching experience -did as much as anyone could at North
Popular and respected by players - also media like him
Excellent media performer - articulate, insightful, confident and air of authority
Perfect age for a coach - 43
No scandals - at least as a coach

With an ounce of luck he could've been in Chris's position
He had a very poor year this season, underprepared the players & he needed a break.
Wouldn’t be against him coming in as Director of Coaching to assist a new coach such as Longmuir & help deflect the local media’s pathetic standard criticism of anything Freo does & allow the new coach to get on with it & offer advice when needed.
 
Don’t care if our new coach isn’t a good media performer. As long as he’s genuine and has self awareness. The 2 things a great media performer like Ross Lyon wasn’t and didn’t have.

Yep, Adam Simpson was terrible on Seven News when he started. He always looked like he was about to throw up from nerves. But he got the hang of it after a while.
 
Yep, Adam Simpson was terrible on Seven News when he started. He always looked like he was about to throw up from nerves. But he got the hang of it after a while.
Yep, but Adam Simpson has always got the "good on ya Simmo" treatment from Seven News - I doubt ANY Fremantle coach has ever or will ever get that, even Sumich.
 
He had a very poor year this season, underprepared the players & he needed a break.
Wouldn’t be against him coming in as Director of Coaching to assist a new coach such as Longmuir & help deflect the local media’s pathetic standard criticism of anything Freo does & allow the new coach to get on with it & offer advice when needed.
Yes, he did need a break. I think he and North got bored with each other, the relationship just ran its course.
But he's now had time to refresh and reflect and ready to coach again, I hope at Freo.
 
Every time I watched Ross interviewed on channel seven he was usually asked human interest questions, rarely a serious football question. To suggest he wasn't coddled by channel seven seem paranoid. Most of it was just fluff.
 
If we go down the road of an Assistant I think to be fair to them and support them we need to get a "Director of Coaching" whom isnt there to be a threat to the new coach but provide support in the media, mentor, deal with the minor tasks and run interference for him. So he can concentrate on footy and getting the team successful. If he needs some media help, get it. Theres plenty of media coaches about. Hire a Media manager.
 

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I'm not anti-Bell, I'm pro-success, and I'm not prepared to accept mediocrity. If we don't make finals next year I'll turn on Bell like a rabid dog.

They need someone to blame

Pitchforks will come out.
Justin Longmuir as Senior Coach with John Worsfold as Coaching Director seems like a good direction to go in personally in my opinion. Gives J-Lo a good mentor for starting off.

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everyone saying they're concerned about not having enough coaching experience on the panel, email Alcock!
we should if he says he listens and replies to every person who contacts, tell him to give Dunstall a ring and see if he could come over when done with adelaide? see if Malthouse is available, or choco williams? someone with loads of coaching experience and who was successful in the role.

& to the person who said don't hire longmuir because he is too inexperienced... how did that work out for Hawks with Clarko, Eagles with Simmo, Geel with Chris Scott, etc?
 
Simpson came in as a good media performer from day 1. it's required of a senior coach. Name one from another club in recent time who you thought was average and they survived and thrived and learnt on the job??? There are more jornos than players and it's blood sport to get rid of a senior coach. If they see a weakness they won't let up till they get rid of them.
It just seems absurd that you would turn down the best possible coach because he doesn't perform well in the media. That's the sort of decision that amateur organisations mate because they're worried about their public image compared to the big boys. I think you're really overplaying how much journos will jump on any weakness they see.
 
All coaches make excuses, doesn't mean they don't address issues away from media spotlight.. Of course they want to talk up team and its culture in public.
Anyway seems like a pretty mild criticism compared to his obvious attributes which I listed.
I always saw him as a tactical lightweight. While other coaches would swing changes that would impact the contest, Scott would do nothing until the game was lost. I don't see him as a good GameDay coach

Subjective and opinionated I know

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I think they should have put someone expereinced, knowledgeable and independent like Dunstall on the Panel, rather than McFarlane or Pav.

How is Dunstall independent? Everyone in football is compromised. Might as well have someone who is trying to do the best for our club, rather than someone else’s.
 
How is Dunstall independent? Everyone in football is compromised. Might as well have someone who is trying to do the best for our club, rather than someone else’s.

If the intention is to seek fresh ideas and a new direction then seeking our own former players and a business partner is about as antithetical to that aim as it gets. Our board and Bell are equally responsible for any dysfunction in our football department and taking an insular approach to rectify it screams arrogance to me.

I honestly would have more faith in a panel of bigfooty posters selecting the new coach than what we currently have.
 
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If the intention is to seek fresh ideas and a new direction then seeking our own former players and a business partner is about as antithetical to that aim as it gets. Our board and Bell are equally responsible for any dysfunction in our football department and taking an insular approach to rectify it screams arrogance to me.

I honestly would have more faith in a panel of bigfooty posters selecting the new coach than what we have currently have.
Cool. Square peg, Taylor, me, and coulda :) dream team panel of diverse opinions

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So what's wrong with Brad Scott?

Star player for Lions
Tough as nails
Very solid coaching experience -did as much as anyone could at North
Popular and respected by players - also media like him
Excellent media performer - articulate, insightful, confident and air of authority
Perfect age for a coach - 43
No scandals - at least as a coach

With an ounce of luck he could've been in Chris's position
What did he achieve at North in 10 years, a prelim final?
 
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