Kallis, Ponting or Tendulkar - Who is better?

[crownie]

Oh ffs. How about those catches he's dropped in the recent era with his fingers up technique? Dropped a crucial catch in the ashes with that horrible technique of his. He stands way too far back, so many balls fall short of the slips.

In the 90s when he was at Point/Gully he was a gun fielder. It looks like a more natural position for him, took everything and was a much better thrower when he fielded in that position.

Now he might get 1 run out a summer and they say "he rarely misses" which is clearly not the case.

ive hardly watched any cricket this summer and ive seen him hit the stumps atleast 5 times.

 

[Kim Hagdorn]

Oh dear god

A horrible slipper is Ponting, and hasn't been consistent at throwing the stumps down since the 90s.

Was a great fielder in his day, but he's average now.

What a load of crap.

 

[DoubleO7]

Very Good point KE. I don't think there would be anyone better at the moment in the world when it comes to fielding than ponting. And I still can't believe Kallis is getting mentioned in the same sentance as Tendulker and Ponting.

AB de Villiers is clearly the best fieldsmen on the planet. IIRC, there was a thread on it not too long ago.

 

[Krakeour Magic]

Mods, I'd like to know how many of these IP's are originating from Bombay?

 

[Cousin Jed]

None.

Not sure why YOTC's comments on Ponting's fielding is so "controversial" his slips catching is dare I say it, bordering on deplorable trying to point his fingers up when the ball is 6 inches off the ground is not a good idea.

 

[Belnakor]

1. Ponting

Captaincy seems to be very underrated. SRT could never cut it as captain, its an incredibly demanding job, both through tactics, planning and the media committments. Very few people thrive when they have less time to devote to their game. Punter has played many more match winning innings than Tendulkar. That is simply a fact, both in ODI and Tests (Tendulkar might have the edge in ODI). Tests is where Ponting shines but his performances on the biggest stage of all, the world cup finals, have shown he is the man for pressure. He is also a VASTLY superior fielder to both Tendulkar and Kallis.

2. Tendulkar.

Great batsman, probably the best batsmen of the modern era, but his recluctance to bat at 3, or to captain show that ultimately he doesn't have the mental abillity to take on such a heavy burden. Mentally weak? Maybe, he has failed on the biggest stage of all - a world cup final.

3. Kallis

Kallis as a batsman is a distant 3rd, however obviously his bowling takes the cake from an all-round perspective. But Kallis isn't the kind who bowls a team to victory, but none the less is very handy.

 

[SydneyDon]

Tendulkar purely as a batsmen, closely followed ponting who has probably played less against the minnow nations, but has a poor record in India, whereas Sachin has a great record all round the world.

However i will still chose ponting as he has captained Australia to two world cups, numerous series victories, bats at 3 and has a great record of making runs when needed. How good would a side be with Ponting at 3 and Sachin at 4.

Kallis 3rd, great all rounder, terrific player but i don't seem him as damaging as the other two and can be a bit selfish and stagnate in his approach to batting. Wouldn't be a bad number 5 to follow the other two.

I agree with this. Kallis only averages 40 against Australia, the dominant opposition during his career. Likes his home turf, averages 60 playing in Africa (including Zim), but also low average in England.

Ponting is consistant all round with the exception of India (average only 20 in 12 matches)

 

[apollo_creed]

I can't believe some people are biased enough to rate Ponting as a better batsman than Tendulkar.

Ask neutrals and there would be one clear winner.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

I can't believe some people are biased enough to rate Ponting as a better batsman than Tendulkar.

Ask neutrals and there would be one clear winner.

who's a better cricketer though?

 

[legend166]

I can't believe some people are biased enough to rate Ponting as a better batsman than Tendulkar.

Ask neutrals and there would be one clear winner.

I think you'll find people are rating Ponting ahead of Tendulkar based on more than pure batting ability. Captaincy and fielding should come into it, no?

 

[r dub 19]

Wake up people. If ponting is such a great captain why did we lose 2 ashes series?? I love how people forget that. Another thing, is it really that hard to captain when you have 2 of the greatest bowlers of all time in your team, not to mention an awesome batting line up.

If you think Ponting is a superior player than Sachin you are simply bias and have no idea about cricket.


*Cousin jed try not to delete this post, I know it's hard for you not to do so.

 

[Cousin Jed]

Not as hard as you think

 

[r dub 19]

Not as hard as you think

(relax it will reappear in a minute)

FAIL. I was referring to the fact you find it very difficult for me to post my opinions.

 

[DT_fanatic]

It's quite laughable people are bringing captaincy into it. The people who are know that Ponting doesn't cut it as a batsman when compared to Tendulkar.

How you can compare captaincy capabilities of two people who are part of vastly DIFFERENT sides I will never know.

 

[r dub 19]

It's quite laughable people are bringing captaincy into it. The people who are know that Ponting doesn't cut it as a batsman when compared to Tendulkar.

How you can compare captaincy capabilities of two people who are part of vastly DIFFERENT sides I will never know.

Correct

 

[King Elvis]

It's quite laughable people are bringing captaincy into it. The people who are know that Ponting doesn't cut it as a batsman when compared to Tendulkar.

How you can compare captaincy capabilities of two people who are part of vastly DIFFERENT sides I will never know.

Fielding?

The reality is, as batsmen, the only way to split them is with your personal bias.

Wake up people. If ponting is such a great captain why did we lose 2 ashes series?? I love how people forget that. Another thing, is it really that hard to captain when you have 2 of the greatest bowlers of all time in your team, not to mention an awesome batting line up.

Siddle and Hauritz?

 

[davey_magik]

I have to go with Tendulkar. Punter is a better captain but it is like saying Tendulkar is a better bowler, both aren't much chop. Ponting is obviously a superior fielder but I judge them on their main job in the side, which is to make runs. Ponting is a champion but Tendulkar is the best batsman since 1950, period. I mean the guy has made the most runs with a ridiculously good average (His average went back past Punters recently).

I rate Ponting as a better batsman than Kallis, but not by much. All three would be in best XI since 1950.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

I have to go with Tendulkar. Punter is a better captain but it is like saying Tendulkar is a better bowler, both aren't much chop. Ponting is obviously a superior fielder but I judge them on their main job in the side, which is to make runs. Ponting is a champion but Tendulkar is the best batsman since 1950, period. I mean the guy has made the most runs with a ridiculously good average (His average went back past Punters recently).

I rate Ponting as a better batsman than Kallis, but not by much. All three would be in best XI since 1950.

i think ponting is a better captain then most give him credit for - his record stacks up against that of waugh and taylor - without mcgrath/warne for a number of years.

And it's a big call rating tendulkar number 1 - there has been a number of great players - and i'd have Viv Richards as the best batsman of the last 60 years. Considering the trends to higher run scoring in the past 20 years - richard's record sits comfortably among the elite batsman of all time.

 

[wce4premiership]

ponting
tendulkar
kallis

 

[Philhawk]

Tendulkar
Ponting
Kallis

SRT stepped up against every opposition in every situation.

For some to say he is mentally 'weak' is a laugh. If a guy scores the most runs in a WC and then fails in the final, it means he's had a bad game. If a bloke fails every time he goes to a country (Ponting in India), does that construe 'mental weakness'?

Obviously not, but both are just as ludicrous.

 

[Big Tezza]

I have to go with Tendulkar. Punter is a better captain but it is like saying Tendulkar is a better bowler, both aren't much chop. Ponting is obviously a superior fielder but I judge them on their main job in the side, which is to make runs. Ponting is a champion but Tendulkar is the best batsman since 1950, period. I mean the guy has made the most runs with a ridiculously good average (His average went back past Punters recently).

Actually, Ponting still has the higher average. During Tendulkar's 106, his average did momentarily surpass that of Ponting, but after he was dismissed, his average fell back below Ponting's. For the record, Ponting currently averages 55.67, Tendulkar 55.56. Not that the average means everything; I rate Lara ahead of either, and he 'only' averaged 52.88.

On topic, I can't really split Tendulkar and Ponting. Sachin had more flair, but Ponting was absolutely rock solid for so many years, plus played more match winning innings. As great as Kallis is, I rate him a rung below the other two.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

Tendulkar
Ponting
Kallis

SRT stepped up against every opposition in every situation.

For some to say he is mentally 'weak' is a laugh. If a guy scores the most runs in a WC and then fails in the final, it means he's had a bad game. If a bloke fails every time he goes to a country (Ponting in India), does that construe 'mental weakness'?

Obviously not, but both are just as ludicrous.

a number of SRT's tons in WC come against minnows. you only get a few rare chances to perform in WC finals - the great players seem to take them. SRT hasn't, Ponting has. So he hasn't stood up on every occasion. Plus it isn't just the grand final he fallen short in.

SRT is still a slightly better batsman - but he isn't god, and he isn't classes above ponting.

 

[saj_21]

I can't believe some people are biased enough to rate Ponting as a better batsman than Tendulkar.

Ask neutrals and there would be one clear winner.

I think most would say as a pure batsmen Sachin has ponting covered, not by much but has him covered. Fact is Ponting has made runs when it counts more often than not and done so at 3 and as captain. Something which Sachin has not done.

As for Pontings fielding it has been as good as ever this summer, watching the AB Medal highlights i saw on 2-3 occasions ponting exacting runs from direct hits, his catching is as good as its been despite a unsual approach some times, by getting low and pointing the fingers up.

 

[Ill Chicken]

Kallis in test cricket, Ponting in ODI and Tendulkar for class.

 

[Blues_Man]

I think most would say as a pure batsmen Sachin has ponting covered, not by much but has him covered. Fact is Ponting has made runs when it counts more often than not and done so at 3 and as captain. Something which Sachin has not done.

As for Pontings fielding it has been as good as ever this summer, watching the AB Medal highlights i saw on 2-3 occasions ponting exacting runs from direct hits, his catching is as good as its been despite a unsual approach some times, by getting low and pointing the fingers up.

This ^ As an all round cricketer Ponting is the best....even as a pure batsman he more than holds his own.

Some of the posters in this thread are known Ponting haters their opinions are tainted by their agendas..the op is a prime example .