The issues I see are years ago almost anyone whose death was as a result of a non accident/murder etc was consisered to have died of an un-named 'natural cause'. These days with the wonderful research involving all avenues of health science, particular human genes are known to cause many mutations that cause frailties and death which is still a 'natural cause' ... which now in many cases ... (just) has a 'name'.
Current Kathleen Folbigg * Convictions Overturned
He should just SHUT UP!
This article has a very clear overview of scientific history about the case.
www.nature.com
‘Science was heard’: woman who was convicted of killing her children pardoned after inquiry
Kathleen Folbigg, who was jailed in Australia in 2003 over the sudden deaths of her four young children, has been pardoned and released in the wake of new scientific evidence.
www.nature.com
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Why? They were his children too and he loved them. He is still grieving and angry. He was part of the whole situation and scenario and was very suspicious well before he found the diaries.
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Yes, the person he thinks murdered his 4 children is allowed out and he just needs to damn well get over it !!
4 Dead Infants, a Convicted Mother, and a Genetic Mystery
Kathleen Folbigg was found guilty of killing her babies. One scientist suspected the real culprit was mutant DNA—and went on a tireless quest to prove it.
An excellent article about the whole thing written 18 months ago, before she was allowed out.
The diaries’ sinister tone is damning after the fact, that is if you read them with the perspective of her being a child murderer then you’ll come away convinced she is, but if you read them from the perspective of a grieving, anxious mother then you’re going to read them as being of that perspective. Should never have been close to being considered damning evidence.
I have previously worked quite a bit in the field of studying (and counselling people with or affected by) the cardiac illnesses that appear to have killed her children. Certainly I saw cases of siblings both dying from cardiac arrest, parent and child both dying from cardiac arrest etc. Some had symptoms, for some their first symptom was their death. I’d not come across four siblings who died in this way, but certainly don’t see it beyond probability.
A clear miscarriage of justice and major failure of the legal system. Steps need to be taken to ensure this never occurs again.
And he misinterpretted what was written in the diaries.
IMO he appears to be unhinged.
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4 of your kids are murdered by your partner and you'd be just kicking on with no issues?
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Even if it wasn't Kathleen, I think a father losing 4 children very young would send most of us a touch unhinged.
Yeah, whether right or wrong (and given I believe her innocence, I think he was wrong), I don’t think it’s fair to malign her ex-husband. He also tragically lost his children and no doubt sincerely believes she killed them. I think there is room for empathy for them both.
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Unless she did actually kill them.
One judge found reasonable doubt on 2 of the children and then said that can apply to the 3rd who also may have had separate genetic issues and then assumed it could apply to the 4th.
We have appeals in this country because juries and judges make mistakes. Commuting the sentence may be fine but hopefully the push to overturn the conviction sees a full investigation not just pandering to the noisy masses.
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The Oz has an article about the pathologist, Dr Cara and issues with his testimony in the 2003 trial, some of which seems to be his opinion was incorrect as well as making statements out of his area of expertise. You can read it here. It quotes Stephen Cordner, prof of forensic pathology at VIFM suggesting there should have been some evidence of smothering - especially if she had done it x4. I don't know Prof Cordner but I had a friend work with him for many years and they thought he was absolute top of his field, so I would trust his opinion. So it comes back to the simple fact, this women was found guilty of murder with no evidence that she killed her children, but the jury was strongly influenced by the Dr Cara's opinion.
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strongly influenced, or misled?
The case was circumstantial.
There was no evidence whatsoever that anyone killed any of the children.
The case should not have even made it to a trial.
I'd be arguing that charges should never have been laid in the first place.
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Agree.
I think 'misled' would fit the circumstances. The wicked woman narrative was a factor, too. The diary seems to have been misinterpreted because of that narrative.
How did she end up with a manslaughter conviction for one of them anyway?
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Will Kathleen Folbigg be compensated for 20 years in prison after her wrongful conviction? | Richard Ackland
The case of a woman wrongfully jailed for murdering her four children highlights the dire need for reform in how compensation is calculated
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Will Kathleen Folbigg be compensated for 20 years in prison after her wrongful conviction? | Richard Ackland
The case of a woman wrongfully jailed for murdering her four children highlights the dire need for reform in how compensation is calculatedwww.theguardian.com
Ackland seems to be wrong about everything these days.
She is still guilty. Any money she gets for anything based on her crimes by law goes to the victim(s) which I would assume is the ex huaband.
I reckon she’s guilty as 4 kids to die like they did just dosent seem plausible to me
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What's rare is that four have died where cause wasn't found. It isn't rare (or unheard of) for children to inherit fatal genetic conditions and they die one after the other.
Adrenoleukodystrophy for example where the mother in perfect health, passes the gene down.
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I understand what you’re saying. One maybe two kids but four? I would say this that imo it is very rare that kids die one after the other due to genetic conditions.
I should have added kids from the one family
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Rare but not unheard of. The only reason we know adrenoleukodystrophy even exists, is because children die slowly, they actually look like they're being poisoned so big effort went in to finding the cause.
Kathleen's children died suddenly.
Oh .. if science cannot yet find a cause it must be murder!
Again I understand where you’re coming from but four kids in the one family alarm bells ring loudly. Iirc two kids had a genetic condition the other two didn’t I just can’t get it in my head that this is just kids dying in their sleep I’m sorry maybe two but not all four.
