Katich and Hussey will be retained. Who will replace Watson?

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Langer has ruled himself out of the 2nd Test so that pretty much guarantees Hussey will get another crack.

Katich is in terrible form but will get at least one more Test. If he gets dropped, that's the end of his career. He'll play the 2nd Test.

The only change will be drafting in a replacement for Shane Watson.

As I see it, Hodge is the most likely batsman, MacGill is the most likely bowler, and Symonds is the only real contender if they go for another all-rounder.

I actually think Hodge will get the nod. The middle order needs an extra bat at the moment, and the Australian selectors have indicated previously that they don't like to play 5 specialist bowlers.

If Symonds is overlooked, aren't the selectors basically saying "It's not so much that we think we need an all-rounder - we just want an excuse to pick Shane Watson"?

 

[Browney]

Yep, thats pretty much spot on, same as what i posted in the other thread. Its gunna be between Hodge and Symonds to replace Watson, they wont drop Bracken or play 5 bowlers, so no MacGill.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Yep, thats pretty much spot on, same as what i posted in the other thread.

Which, strangely enough, was a carbon copy of what I posted immediately before you in that thread.

 

[Browney]

Which, strangely enough, was a carbon copy of what I posted immediately before you in that thread.

No, not really, you just said who it was out of in the other thread, i said who they would go with, you just threw a few names up in the air, no offence mate, but it doesnt exactly take a rocket scientist to work out who they are tossing up between, we dont exactly need another thread, just so you are in the spotlight. You made your point in the other thread.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

No, not really, you just said who it was out of in the other thread, i said who they would go with, you just threw a few names up in the air, no offence mate, but it doesnt exactly take a rocket scientist to work out who they are tossing up between, we dont exactly need another thread, just so you are in the spotlight. You made your point in the other thread.

If you look at the poll in the other thread, quite a few people think that Hodge is "more likely" to play than Hussey or Katich, so obviously some people haven't quite figured it out yet. Is he going to replace 3 players?

The point I made is that there will only be one change.

 

[goalpie]

Katich this summer has played 3 test innings made 2 runs which isnt even averaging 1.

Always dropping catches and doesnt bowl. So what does he do.

 

[spookism]

Symonds in for Watson and while where at it drop Katich

 

[year of the roo]

Michael Klinger.

 

[andrew_embley]

as much as i like Symo , its Hodgey's time

 

[Ricketts]

I reckon MacGill should be in.

Go for the 5 bowlers.

 

[Kegs44]

Symonds for Watson, and we have to drop Katich, Hodge will be much better value.

 

[Vaughans_army]

Ponting said today he will defend Katich at the selection table and he wont let him be dropped

********monds will probably replace Watson, selectors are such morons. Unfortunately for ********monds he wont get to face a bowler like Cullen in the Test

 

[bunsen burner]

Symmonds please. Katich has 1 test to score runs. Clarke also on thin ice.

 

[andrew_embley]

Ponting said today he will defend Katich at the selection table and he wont let him be dropped

********monds will probably replace Watson, selectors are such morons. Unfortunately for ********monds he wont get to face a bowler like Cullen in the Test

whats this with English supporters and Symonds?

Dude wins Man Of The Series against your mob and you're calling him cripe?

 

[F/D]

Hodge.

 

[eddiesmith]

whats this with English supporters and Symonds?

Dude wins Man Of The Series against your mob and you're calling him cripe?

He is an overrated one day player, nowhere near test level, never will be

******** record at Pura Cup level compared to other contenders, not capable of big scores as he eventually mis-cues one of his slogs

He just made his highest score ever on the weekend of 163 feasting on small boundaries and a young off spinner and suddenly he should be in the test side?

 

[apollo_creed]

Please replace him with MacGill.

An Australian batting line-up of,

Hayden
Hussey
Ponting
Clarke
Katich
Gilchrist
Warne
Lee
Bracken
McGrath
MacGill

Would perhaps be the worst batting line-up produced by Australia for some years.

 

[andrew_embley]

He is an overrated one day player, nowhere near test level, never will be

******** record at Pura Cup level compared to other contenders, not capable of big scores as he eventually mis-cues one of his slogs

He just made his highest score ever on the weekend of 163 feasting on small boundaries and a young off spinner and suddenly he should be in the test side?

yes, but to call him overrated in ODI's . We need not go into a whole play on his ODI form reversal since the world cup and his Man of the Series efforts against England , when there was quality quality players like Flintoff, KP and co. playing.

Hodge should easily be in front of him and one big knock doesnt equal a Test birth (in fact in that other thread i said Hodge deserves a shot ahead of Symonds and still stand by it).

I am not calling for him to be included in the Test team, but these calls on him being overrated in ODI's and 'bad' are silly.

 

[eddiesmith]

yes, but to call him overrated in ODI's . We need not go into a whole play on his ODI form reversal since the world cup and his Man of the Series efforts against England , when there was quality quality players like Flintoff, KP and co. playing.

Hodge should easily be in front of him and one big knock doesnt equal a Test birth (in fact in that other thread i said Hodge deserves a shot ahead of Symonds and still stand by it).

I am not calling for him to be included in the Test team, but these calls on him being overrated in ODI's and 'bad' are silly.

To often I watch Symonds, he will lead the revival, push around a 60 or so, come the time to start hitting out and up the run rate, he gets out. He has made 1 or 2 good, full innings, other than that he is no superstar.

And his bowling is a freaking joke.

 

[andrew_embley]

To often I watch Symonds, he will lead the revival, push around a 60 or so, come the time to start hitting out and up the run rate, he gets out. He has made 1 or 2 good, full innings, other than that he is no superstar.

And his bowling is a freaking joke.

Maybe thats the top orders fault. If they keep stuttering with bad starts and he has to come in and revive an innings and power hit at the end he is playing a huge role. England have 2 awesome power players and can set a batting structure around nicely with those 2 supplemented by the more 'moderate' style players. Aussies only big hitter bar Gilly in ODI's is Symonds.
Power players shouldnt be the ones to make the huge mother-of-all-scores in ODI games. Big Hitters are going to get out eventually, such is the nature of big hitting. Australia's 'ideal' game should have the 'conventional' batter who steadies the innings (i.e for argument sake lets say a Clarke or Martyn as an example) and have hitters like Symonds bat around them. Not the other way around.
Granted his bolwing isnt top notch. Fileding his awesome as we know.

Theres no denying his ODI form is great nonetheless.

 

[Browney]

Please replace him with MacGill.

An Australian batting line-up of,

Hayden
Hussey
Ponting
Clarke
Katich
Gilchrist
Warne
Lee
Bracken
McGrath
MacGill

Would perhaps be the worst batting line-up produced by Australia for some years.

You're actually not allowed to write a batting line-up in these threads, accoring to Gunnar Longshanks.

 

[Vaughans_army]

Maybe thats the top orders fault. If they keep stuttering with bad starts and he has to come in and revive an innings and power hit at the end he is playing a huge role. England have 2 awesome power players and can set a batting structure around nicely with those 2 supplemented by the more 'moderate' style players. Aussies only big hitter bar Gilly in ODI's is Symonds.
Power players shouldnt be the ones to make the huge mother-of-all-scores in ODI games. Big Hitters are going to get out eventually, such is the nature of big hitting. Australia's 'ideal' game should have the 'conventional' batter who steadies the innings (i.e for argument sake lets say a Clarke or Martyn as an example) and have hitters like Symonds bat around them. Not the other way around.
Granted his bolwing isnt top notch. Fileding his awesome as we know.

Theres no denying his ODI form is great nonetheless.

Which is also why I have always claimed he bats to highly in the order

Back when Boof was around, they had Symonds in front of him, then come the dying overs, Symonds gets out and Australia are left with Clarke, Boof or Hussey to just push singles around. When Australia loses a 1 day game it is in the last 10 overs, other sides around the world have much better team structures that means if they can get close to the Aussies, the last 10 overs they can easily outscore Australia

 

[andrew_embley]

Which is also why I have always claimed he bats to highly in the order

Back when Boof was around, they had Symonds in front of him, then come the dying overs, Symonds gets out and Australia are left with Clarke, Boof or Hussey to just push singles around. When Australia loses a 1 day game it is in the last 10 overs, other sides around the world have much better team structures that means if they can get close to the Aussies, the last 10 overs they can easily outscore Australia

yeah it is a valid point. I think there was a brief period where they went and batted him at #4 as well which was confusing.

 

[Vaughans_army]

yeah it is a valid point. I think there was a brief period where they went and batted him at #4 as well which was confusing.

Clarke and Hussey are wasted at 6 and 7

How often I have seen Clarkey come in during the last few overs and look lost and go out cheaply

Could you imagine Afridi batting at 4 or 5 for the Pakis?

 

[White Czar]

Cameron White?