If I had to choose I'd take BROWN, this is him last year pre-season
Add another 10kg and a 15 beep test =
Youd take him out for a steak dinner than back to your house. Man love is off the charts for this guy! he must be the most over rated eagle?
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Youd take him out for a steak dinner than back to your house. Man love is off the charts for this guy! he must be the most over rated eagle?
If you're asking who's better atm or who's shown more then yes I'd say Kennedy. But long term I'd take the risk on Brown
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brown will be a better player
Isnt it great that BOTH Brown & Kennedy have no self regard and just put their body on the line. Finally we have 2 gun forwards who will bust open packs, take a contested mark and always provide a contest.
IMO Brown is better up the ground in that Hansen lead up role
Kennedy is great around the 50
McKinley (FF) in the goal square with a crumber.
IMO Brown is better up the ground in that Hansen lead up role
Kennedy is great around the 50
McKinley (FF) in the goal square with a crumber.
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That... thing... is humongous.If I had to choose I'd take BROWN, this is him last year pre-season
Add another 10kg and a 15 beep test =
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Thats what she said
Does anyone know Brown's height/weight?
Is ~195cm/100kg right?
BTW that gives him a BMI of 26.5 ie "overweight" (even though it's all muscle). So that just shows how freakish a 15 beep test is.
Is ~195cm/100kg right?
BTW that gives him a BMI of 26.5 ie "overweight" (even though it's all muscle). So that just shows how freakish a 15 beep test is.
I was going to post this in the Nest under his name but the thread was closed but too good a read not to share.
Pre Draft Profile from Wiz
Josh Kennedy (East Fremantle)
195/92 mid-age right foot (has other foot if necessary) KPP.
*STYLE LIKE: Leigh Colbert
*MY RANKING (not meant to reflect appropriate draft pick to use): 14
*PROBABILITY OF AFL CAREER: Likely. Ready year 1.
- Within an AFL team list, could prove capable of SUSTAINING a ranking of 10-15.
*HURT FACTORS (Offensive/Defensive/Negative): M / M / L-M
*TRADEMARK:
- Anything involving work-rate and/or team play and/or physical commitment.
*SUMMARY ASSESSMENT, RECOMMENDATION:
- Physical KPP. Not silky but adept, reliable. Blue overalls, rock-solid goer.
- Josh is not special at any one thing. He can take a good pack mark but he is not routinely good, is fairly clean below the knee but not especially clean (particularly on the run), and he definitely lacks pace over a short distance (although certainly not a slug).
What he does bring to the draft table is a genuinely inside KPP who is a great size for AFL (195cm and already physically strong) and, most importantly, has great ethic and physicality. He'll give you 100% every time and work hard both ways and supply physical presence. He also has leadership potential.
- Hasn't had the long-term preparation most of his peers have had. Last year he lived many hours from Perth and also had a broken wrist.
This year he missed some games with a shoulder injury and went into the U18 Champs under an injury cloud until "the last minute".
I'm assessing him mainly on his WAFL form. He is better than his '05 U18 Champs form (not that it was poor - he was, after all, awarded AA). I had Josh in my top 8 rankings most of the year but, in the end, I've ranked him a bit lower than most pundits would have him.
I admire him tremendously and I certainly took into account the logistical difficulties (travel, convenience) he had prior to this year, even for a kid who has now been through the AIS program. I also allowed for his injury disruption / discomfort this year.
- I kept coming back to Heath Grundy from last year's draft and asking myself "What is so much better about Kennedy than Grundy that would warrant Kennedy being worth a very early pick when Grundy was only deemed to be worth a Rookie pick in the 40's?" It's hard to mount a case. At least, I found it hard to mount a case. Here is my comparison of the two:-
1. Size: Similar. Identical weight. Kennedy 3cm taller at 195cm but Grundy has a 4cm reach advantage compared to the average 192cm player. Both very physically strong players. Kennedy has added 10kg in the past 2 years.
2. Age: Kennedy only 2 months younger than Grundy was at the same point last year.
3. Overhead: Both are pack/contested marks. Kennedy strong overhead. Grundy more reliable in a pack. Grundy has a big leap. I'm not convinced Kennedy has.
4. Kicking: Both are thumping kicks capable of 60m+. Kennedy a fairly reliable kick. Grundy was rated as good a kick as anyone in last year's SA U18 squad. Kennedy can use his non-preferred left if he has to. Grundy very adept on his non-preferred left.
5. Disposal by hand: Similar.
6. Vision, smarts: About equal. Both quite good.
7. Development: Both AIS. Kennedy has moved from Geralton (virtually outback WA) and missed '04 U18 Champs due to injury. Played this year's U18 Champs but was doubtful due to injury concern. Form was handy but not flash. Grundy played 2 years of U18 Champs and had a less disrupted couple of U18 years so allowance must be made for Kennedy. (Kennedy was actually born in Melbourne and has also lived in Canberra, Townsville and Perth before Geralton so he is not your typical kid from a remote place like Geralton who has spent their whole life there).
8. Form: Kennedy very handy form at all WAFL levels this year but no standout 4-quarter game. Played 8 WAFL Senior games and stood up well. Except for one colts game (16d in PF) picked up about 10d each game (mainly from marks). Grundy had very good SANFL Seniors form throughout last year and SANFL Seniors standard is quite a bit higher than WAFL Seniors.
9. Leadership etc: Similar claims. Both are quality kids.
10. Physicality: Similar. Both physically strong and exert a presence.
11. Ethic, intensity: Similar. Both give 110%.
12. Ability to push themselves: Both work similarly hard on-field. Going on DC/SS beep tests, Kennedy did a very impressive 13.60. Grundy only did a 12.50 last year but a 13.30 the previous year.
13. Pace: Similar over a short distance. On-field, both lack some pace for normal situations but can get by. Going on DC/SS times, Kennedy did 3.16 for 20m, including 1.19 for the 5m. Grundy wasn't quite right at the time of last year's DC and did a comparable 3.19 and 1.16 but did a 3.12 the year before and his 5m time then was a very good 1.06. Kennedy's pace is quite OK on a long run - better than Grundy's. It's just that Kennedy can take so long to build up momentum.
14. Versatility: Grundy has played every KP role. I think Kennedy has too although I'm not sure if he has played FB. Both have played at both ends in U18 Champs and at also in local (WAFL/SANFL) comps. Kennedy is fairly new to KPP, having been a ruckman all his life until last year. The options for both boys at AFL level would appear to be similar. At AFL, I suspect both might finish up as key defenders but I would also not be unduly surprised if either or both played key forward.
15. Accountability: Both very accountable.
16. Clean hands: Both about equal. Generally fairly clean
17. Consistency: Both consistent.
18. U18 Champs stats summaries::
Grundy '04 :-
Averaged 13 disposals and 6.0 marks in his 3 games. (Best TD 15).
Kicks per 20 disp: 14.
Kicks long vs short: 9-12 (5 long per 10 kicks).
Ineffective kicks: 7/28 (2.5 per 10 kicks), incl 2 clangers (0.7 per 10 kicks).
Ineffective handballs: 1/12 (0.8 per 10 handballs), incl 0 clangers (0 per 10 handballs).
Ineffective disposals: 8/40 (4.0 per 20 disp), incl 2 clangers (1.0 per 20 disp).
HandBall Receives: 7/40 (3.5 per 20 disp).
Hardball gets: 6/40 (3 per 20 disp).
Tackles: 2 (Avg 0.7 per game)
Marks: 18 (9 per 20 disp), incl 11 contested (6.1 per 10 marks).
Kennedy '05:
Averaged 10 disposals and 3.3 marks in his 3 games. (Best TD 11).
Kicks per 20 disp: 14.
Kicks long vs short: 10-6 (6 long per 10 kicks).
Ineffective kicks: 4/20 (2.0 per 10 kicks), incl 1 clangers (0.5 per 10 kicks).
Ineffective handballs: 3/9 (3.3 per 10 handballs), incl 2 clangers (2.2 per 10 handballs).
Ineffective disposals: 7/29 (4.8 per 20 disp), incl 3 clangers (2.1 per 20 disp).
HandBall Receives: 4/29 (3 per 20 disp).
Hardball gets: 3/29 (2 per 20 disp).
S.P. clearances: 2/29 (1 per 20 disp), incl 1 BU (1 per 20 disp), incl 0 CBC (0 per 20 disp).
Tackles: 16 (Avg 5.3 per game).
Marks: 10 (7 per 20 disp), incl 3 contested (3.0 per 10 marks).
I include the U18 stats comparison merely as a statistical guide to where each was at at the same age/stage and to support my point for point comparisons (above), not to argue that such stats prove who is categorically better at this or that. There isn't much difference in the stats except tackles and marks (especially contested). Both are actually quite good tacklers and both apply similar pressure. Kennedy is a more prolific contested mark than those stats suggest but was coming off / carrying a shoulder injury.
My point with all the above is that there isn't much between them in their respective draft years. Grundy only attracted pick 42 in the Rookie draft. I had him at 24 in my National draft rankings in a draft with clearer standouts at the top end than this year but this year's draft has a more attractive offering of talls (quality and quantity). On that basis, I think my ranking of Kennedy is justified, if not slightly generous. It's still quite a good ranking and I've ranked him 10 spots earlier than I ranked Grundy last year, just not as early as popular opinion has him or as early as he will go on draft day.
I find a lot to like in both Grundy and Kennedy and I give both (albeit that Grundy was a Rookie) a decent chance of a sustained AFL career, but can't rate Kennedy a dead-set certainty, any more than I could Grundy.
I don't think either has huge upside but there aren't many major flaws in either and both play a blue collar style and have "what you see is what you get" dependability.
I would personally not take Josh with a first round pick, even though that's presumably where he will go. I do think he is worth a mid 2nd round pick though.
- Were Kennedy's pace better over the first few metres, I would rank him a bit earlier. If he had Carey-like pack-marking reliability, I'd rate him earlier too.
*DISPOSAL:
(see above)
- Kicking reliability mixed bag but fairly reliable.
- Very good depth. Range at least 60m.
- Good by hand, regardless of pressure.
- Quite a reliable set shot for goal from outside 40m.
*DECISION-MAKING, SMARTS:
(see above)
- Reads the play well. Generally good vision and generally makes the right decisions.
*HANDS:
(see above)
- Generally clean below the knee when not on the run.
*OVERHEAD MARKING:
(see above)
- Hands are mixed bag. Certainly not routinely reliable.
- Doesn't routinely hold his ground well.
- Judgement is mixed bag. Sometimes runs under the ball.
*ATHLETICISM:
(see above)
- Pace is some concern. At the moment his pace on the run over 10-20m is probably about what you see in one of the somewhat slowish AFL midfielders when they were the same age and certainly much better than the slower AFL rucks. It is not his pace over ground that worries me. His pace after the first 15m or so is very competitive. It's his speed over the first few metres that is poor. Off the mark he is very slow. He is very likely to gain some degree of improvement from addressing a few basic errors in his sprinting technique (eg he often runs in a hunched, very head down, posture and with quite a lot of lateral arm/torso movement - both of which, together with shoulder tightness, are power and energy inefficient and cost speed). However, he is likely to always be slowish off the mark.
- Tires a bit late game at this stage but probably has good latent natural endurance. It's not at its peak at the moment but should potentially be good once his body is conditioned.
- Displays a huge leap at times, but definitely not routinely.
- Good non-defensive agility.
- Looks like he has scope to have his body shape firmed up. His pace may possibly improve a little with conditioning.
*INTENSITY, ETHIC:
(see above)
- This is what separates him from most of the pack in terms of KPP potential draftees. It defines him.
- All the 1%ers covered. Runs hard.
- Fierce attack on the man. Fierce tackler.
- A decent percentage of his non-overhead possessions are from contested situations at ground level.
*CONSISTENCY:
(see above)
*AFL VERSATILITY:
(see above)
*CSI (COMPARATIVE SCOPE for IMPROVEMENT):
- On balance, probably about normal or a bit above. Did lack the early development opportunities of many of his peers and has had various injuries though.
*QUERY:
- Pace over the first few metres.
*SOME STATS:
- Stats summary '05 U18 Champs:
Averaged 10 disposals and 3.3 marks in his 3 games. (Best TD 11).
Kicks per 20 disp: 14.
Kicks long vs short: 10-6 (6 long per 10 kicks).
Ineffective kicks: 4/20 (2.0 per 10 kicks), incl 1 clangers (0.5 per 10 kicks).
Ineffective handballs: 3/9 (3.3 per 10 handballs), incl 2 clangers (2.2 per 10 handballs).
Ineffective disposals: 7/29 (4.8 per 20 disp), incl 3 clangers (2.1 per 20 disp).
HandBall Receives: 4/29 (3 per 20 disp).
Hardball gets: 3/29 (2 per 20 disp).
S.P. clearances: 2/29 (1 per 20 disp), incl 1 BU (1 per 20 disp), incl 0 CBC (0 per 20 disp).
Tackles: 16 (Avg 5.3 per game).
Marks: 10 (7 per 20 disp), incl 3 contested (3.0 per 10 marks).
*OTHER STUFF:
- AIS
- Both parents were quality NBL basketballers. Kennedy played until 16yo.
- Would have played '04 Champs but N/A due to broken wrist.
Went into '05 U18 Champs under an injury cloud until the last minute.
In '05, Colts, Reserves then good Seniors form (debut 28/8/05).
Pre Draft Profile from Wiz
Josh Kennedy (East Fremantle)
195/92 mid-age right foot (has other foot if necessary) KPP.
*STYLE LIKE: Leigh Colbert
*MY RANKING (not meant to reflect appropriate draft pick to use): 14
*PROBABILITY OF AFL CAREER: Likely. Ready year 1.
- Within an AFL team list, could prove capable of SUSTAINING a ranking of 10-15.
*HURT FACTORS (Offensive/Defensive/Negative): M / M / L-M
*TRADEMARK:
- Anything involving work-rate and/or team play and/or physical commitment.
*SUMMARY ASSESSMENT, RECOMMENDATION:
- Physical KPP. Not silky but adept, reliable. Blue overalls, rock-solid goer.
- Josh is not special at any one thing. He can take a good pack mark but he is not routinely good, is fairly clean below the knee but not especially clean (particularly on the run), and he definitely lacks pace over a short distance (although certainly not a slug).
What he does bring to the draft table is a genuinely inside KPP who is a great size for AFL (195cm and already physically strong) and, most importantly, has great ethic and physicality. He'll give you 100% every time and work hard both ways and supply physical presence. He also has leadership potential.
- Hasn't had the long-term preparation most of his peers have had. Last year he lived many hours from Perth and also had a broken wrist.
This year he missed some games with a shoulder injury and went into the U18 Champs under an injury cloud until "the last minute".
I'm assessing him mainly on his WAFL form. He is better than his '05 U18 Champs form (not that it was poor - he was, after all, awarded AA). I had Josh in my top 8 rankings most of the year but, in the end, I've ranked him a bit lower than most pundits would have him.
I admire him tremendously and I certainly took into account the logistical difficulties (travel, convenience) he had prior to this year, even for a kid who has now been through the AIS program. I also allowed for his injury disruption / discomfort this year.
- I kept coming back to Heath Grundy from last year's draft and asking myself "What is so much better about Kennedy than Grundy that would warrant Kennedy being worth a very early pick when Grundy was only deemed to be worth a Rookie pick in the 40's?" It's hard to mount a case. At least, I found it hard to mount a case. Here is my comparison of the two:-
1. Size: Similar. Identical weight. Kennedy 3cm taller at 195cm but Grundy has a 4cm reach advantage compared to the average 192cm player. Both very physically strong players. Kennedy has added 10kg in the past 2 years.
2. Age: Kennedy only 2 months younger than Grundy was at the same point last year.
3. Overhead: Both are pack/contested marks. Kennedy strong overhead. Grundy more reliable in a pack. Grundy has a big leap. I'm not convinced Kennedy has.
4. Kicking: Both are thumping kicks capable of 60m+. Kennedy a fairly reliable kick. Grundy was rated as good a kick as anyone in last year's SA U18 squad. Kennedy can use his non-preferred left if he has to. Grundy very adept on his non-preferred left.
5. Disposal by hand: Similar.
6. Vision, smarts: About equal. Both quite good.
7. Development: Both AIS. Kennedy has moved from Geralton (virtually outback WA) and missed '04 U18 Champs due to injury. Played this year's U18 Champs but was doubtful due to injury concern. Form was handy but not flash. Grundy played 2 years of U18 Champs and had a less disrupted couple of U18 years so allowance must be made for Kennedy. (Kennedy was actually born in Melbourne and has also lived in Canberra, Townsville and Perth before Geralton so he is not your typical kid from a remote place like Geralton who has spent their whole life there).
8. Form: Kennedy very handy form at all WAFL levels this year but no standout 4-quarter game. Played 8 WAFL Senior games and stood up well. Except for one colts game (16d in PF) picked up about 10d each game (mainly from marks). Grundy had very good SANFL Seniors form throughout last year and SANFL Seniors standard is quite a bit higher than WAFL Seniors.
9. Leadership etc: Similar claims. Both are quality kids.
10. Physicality: Similar. Both physically strong and exert a presence.
11. Ethic, intensity: Similar. Both give 110%.
12. Ability to push themselves: Both work similarly hard on-field. Going on DC/SS beep tests, Kennedy did a very impressive 13.60. Grundy only did a 12.50 last year but a 13.30 the previous year.
13. Pace: Similar over a short distance. On-field, both lack some pace for normal situations but can get by. Going on DC/SS times, Kennedy did 3.16 for 20m, including 1.19 for the 5m. Grundy wasn't quite right at the time of last year's DC and did a comparable 3.19 and 1.16 but did a 3.12 the year before and his 5m time then was a very good 1.06. Kennedy's pace is quite OK on a long run - better than Grundy's. It's just that Kennedy can take so long to build up momentum.
14. Versatility: Grundy has played every KP role. I think Kennedy has too although I'm not sure if he has played FB. Both have played at both ends in U18 Champs and at also in local (WAFL/SANFL) comps. Kennedy is fairly new to KPP, having been a ruckman all his life until last year. The options for both boys at AFL level would appear to be similar. At AFL, I suspect both might finish up as key defenders but I would also not be unduly surprised if either or both played key forward.
15. Accountability: Both very accountable.
16. Clean hands: Both about equal. Generally fairly clean
17. Consistency: Both consistent.
18. U18 Champs stats summaries::
Grundy '04 :-
Averaged 13 disposals and 6.0 marks in his 3 games. (Best TD 15).
Kicks per 20 disp: 14.
Kicks long vs short: 9-12 (5 long per 10 kicks).
Ineffective kicks: 7/28 (2.5 per 10 kicks), incl 2 clangers (0.7 per 10 kicks).
Ineffective handballs: 1/12 (0.8 per 10 handballs), incl 0 clangers (0 per 10 handballs).
Ineffective disposals: 8/40 (4.0 per 20 disp), incl 2 clangers (1.0 per 20 disp).
HandBall Receives: 7/40 (3.5 per 20 disp).
Hardball gets: 6/40 (3 per 20 disp).
Tackles: 2 (Avg 0.7 per game)
Marks: 18 (9 per 20 disp), incl 11 contested (6.1 per 10 marks).
Kennedy '05:
Averaged 10 disposals and 3.3 marks in his 3 games. (Best TD 11).
Kicks per 20 disp: 14.
Kicks long vs short: 10-6 (6 long per 10 kicks).
Ineffective kicks: 4/20 (2.0 per 10 kicks), incl 1 clangers (0.5 per 10 kicks).
Ineffective handballs: 3/9 (3.3 per 10 handballs), incl 2 clangers (2.2 per 10 handballs).
Ineffective disposals: 7/29 (4.8 per 20 disp), incl 3 clangers (2.1 per 20 disp).
HandBall Receives: 4/29 (3 per 20 disp).
Hardball gets: 3/29 (2 per 20 disp).
S.P. clearances: 2/29 (1 per 20 disp), incl 1 BU (1 per 20 disp), incl 0 CBC (0 per 20 disp).
Tackles: 16 (Avg 5.3 per game).
Marks: 10 (7 per 20 disp), incl 3 contested (3.0 per 10 marks).
I include the U18 stats comparison merely as a statistical guide to where each was at at the same age/stage and to support my point for point comparisons (above), not to argue that such stats prove who is categorically better at this or that. There isn't much difference in the stats except tackles and marks (especially contested). Both are actually quite good tacklers and both apply similar pressure. Kennedy is a more prolific contested mark than those stats suggest but was coming off / carrying a shoulder injury.
My point with all the above is that there isn't much between them in their respective draft years. Grundy only attracted pick 42 in the Rookie draft. I had him at 24 in my National draft rankings in a draft with clearer standouts at the top end than this year but this year's draft has a more attractive offering of talls (quality and quantity). On that basis, I think my ranking of Kennedy is justified, if not slightly generous. It's still quite a good ranking and I've ranked him 10 spots earlier than I ranked Grundy last year, just not as early as popular opinion has him or as early as he will go on draft day.
I find a lot to like in both Grundy and Kennedy and I give both (albeit that Grundy was a Rookie) a decent chance of a sustained AFL career, but can't rate Kennedy a dead-set certainty, any more than I could Grundy.
I don't think either has huge upside but there aren't many major flaws in either and both play a blue collar style and have "what you see is what you get" dependability.
I would personally not take Josh with a first round pick, even though that's presumably where he will go. I do think he is worth a mid 2nd round pick though.
- Were Kennedy's pace better over the first few metres, I would rank him a bit earlier. If he had Carey-like pack-marking reliability, I'd rate him earlier too.
*DISPOSAL:
(see above)
- Kicking reliability mixed bag but fairly reliable.
- Very good depth. Range at least 60m.
- Good by hand, regardless of pressure.
- Quite a reliable set shot for goal from outside 40m.
*DECISION-MAKING, SMARTS:
(see above)
- Reads the play well. Generally good vision and generally makes the right decisions.
*HANDS:
(see above)
- Generally clean below the knee when not on the run.
*OVERHEAD MARKING:
(see above)
- Hands are mixed bag. Certainly not routinely reliable.
- Doesn't routinely hold his ground well.
- Judgement is mixed bag. Sometimes runs under the ball.
*ATHLETICISM:
(see above)
- Pace is some concern. At the moment his pace on the run over 10-20m is probably about what you see in one of the somewhat slowish AFL midfielders when they were the same age and certainly much better than the slower AFL rucks. It is not his pace over ground that worries me. His pace after the first 15m or so is very competitive. It's his speed over the first few metres that is poor. Off the mark he is very slow. He is very likely to gain some degree of improvement from addressing a few basic errors in his sprinting technique (eg he often runs in a hunched, very head down, posture and with quite a lot of lateral arm/torso movement - both of which, together with shoulder tightness, are power and energy inefficient and cost speed). However, he is likely to always be slowish off the mark.
- Tires a bit late game at this stage but probably has good latent natural endurance. It's not at its peak at the moment but should potentially be good once his body is conditioned.
- Displays a huge leap at times, but definitely not routinely.
- Good non-defensive agility.
- Looks like he has scope to have his body shape firmed up. His pace may possibly improve a little with conditioning.
*INTENSITY, ETHIC:
(see above)
- This is what separates him from most of the pack in terms of KPP potential draftees. It defines him.
- All the 1%ers covered. Runs hard.
- Fierce attack on the man. Fierce tackler.
- A decent percentage of his non-overhead possessions are from contested situations at ground level.
*CONSISTENCY:
(see above)
*AFL VERSATILITY:
(see above)
*CSI (COMPARATIVE SCOPE for IMPROVEMENT):
- On balance, probably about normal or a bit above. Did lack the early development opportunities of many of his peers and has had various injuries though.
*QUERY:
- Pace over the first few metres.
*SOME STATS:
- Stats summary '05 U18 Champs:
Averaged 10 disposals and 3.3 marks in his 3 games. (Best TD 11).
Kicks per 20 disp: 14.
Kicks long vs short: 10-6 (6 long per 10 kicks).
Ineffective kicks: 4/20 (2.0 per 10 kicks), incl 1 clangers (0.5 per 10 kicks).
Ineffective handballs: 3/9 (3.3 per 10 handballs), incl 2 clangers (2.2 per 10 handballs).
Ineffective disposals: 7/29 (4.8 per 20 disp), incl 3 clangers (2.1 per 20 disp).
HandBall Receives: 4/29 (3 per 20 disp).
Hardball gets: 3/29 (2 per 20 disp).
S.P. clearances: 2/29 (1 per 20 disp), incl 1 BU (1 per 20 disp), incl 0 CBC (0 per 20 disp).
Tackles: 16 (Avg 5.3 per game).
Marks: 10 (7 per 20 disp), incl 3 contested (3.0 per 10 marks).
*OTHER STUFF:
- AIS
- Both parents were quality NBL basketballers. Kennedy played until 16yo.
- Would have played '04 Champs but N/A due to broken wrist.
Went into '05 U18 Champs under an injury cloud until the last minute.
In '05, Colts, Reserves then good Seniors form (debut 28/8/05).
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Yeah, I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one
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But Jon Ralph says that along with Stenglein, Brown is the key to our next flag.
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Hahaha
So much wrong with this.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
But yes that was a very strong post in favour of someone who hadn't really shown anything at AFL level, and probably still really hasn't.
Yeah good work quoting a 9 year old post.
Calm down daddy.
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I think this thread gave me cancer.
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8 years later, Im prepared to say Kennedy won
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Jonathan Brown reminds me of Puddy
Add FP and ruck to that.
