Draft Watcher Knightmare's 2018 AFL Draft Almanac

[Knightmare]

I wouldn’t say “it’s over for him”.

Kids are allowed to improve, and capable of improving in these areas across the year. It’s called player development. Happens all the time.

My meaning is, if at seasons end he doesn't have a reputation for being one-touch and have that ground ball stuff up to an elite level. Who's drafting him this year?

He looked pretty good v Oakleigh so he's one I will continue watching for to see if he has the ground ball game, can find more of the footy and sneak forward here/there and kick some goals.

 

[TiAn_]

My first AFL Draft Power Rankings for 2018 are now up!: http://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/...-power-rankings-key-position-players-dominate

Pretty incredible top end this year. Not the worst year for your club to be struggling.

Thanks for the Rankings!

What are your thoughts on Bulldogs NGA players Buku Khamis, Josh Chatfield and Lachie Dawson and where they may end up going in the draft?

I didn't even know Chatfield and Dawson were available to the Dogs until someone else on our board mentioned it today. Reports on both from the weekend seem positive.

 

[Knightmare]

Thanks for the Rankings!

What are your thoughts on Bulldogs NGA players Buku Khamis, Josh Chatfield and Lachie Dawson and where they may end up going in the draft?

I didn't even know Chatfield and Dawson were available to the Dogs until someone else on our board mentioned it today. Reports on both from the weekend seem positive.

They all fit into the late chances category, but all are on the draft radar.

Khamis I liked the look of in the games I saw of him last year. Very impressive kick of the footy and is capable back or forward. With a good year, he can get picked up late draft.

Lachy Dawson is very capable as a mid and will make mention of him in my weekly piece as GWV's best on the weekend. He's a hard working mid overall who finds a lot of the footy. Again, late draft I see him as a definite chance with a strong season if he neatens up his kicking.

Chatfield was another to make the bests for GWV. He's a capable pressure forward and had the 7 tackles on the weekend. He has some speed and will go for those chasedown tackles. Late draft I see him as a possible choice.

 

[TiAn_]

They all fit into the late chances category, but all are on the draft radar.

Khamis I liked the look of in the games I saw of him last year. Very impressive kick of the footy and is capable back or forward. With a good year, he can get picked up late draft.

Lachy Dawson is very capable as a mid and will make mention of him in my weekly piece as GWV's best on the weekend. He's a hard working mid overall who finds a lot of the footy. Again, late draft I see him as a definite chance with a strong season if he neatens up his kicking.

Chatfield was another to make the bests for GWV. He's a capable pressure forward and had the 7 tackles on the weekend. He has some speed and will go for those chasedown tackles. Late draft I see him as a possible choice.

Thanks

 

[SumTingWong]

KM,
When do you think the AFL/AFL media will start to get serious about promotion and discussion of this years draft? The weekly TAC cup stars is poor with little to poor footage and most importantly information on this years prospects. It just seems like a chance for Plough and Brown to get their mugs on TV with little actual insight and info on this years draft prospects. Especially with it seems live trading apparently happening soon on draft night it will be a bit of a farce if the viewing public have no idea who they are giving up for said draft pick. It will also help the commentators come round 1 actually knowing what to expect from certain players and won't make them sound as unprofessional as they already are. They do it much better in the states and am hoping we at least begin to head in that direction here soon.

 

[GUMBLETRON]

When do you think the AFL/AFL media will start to get serious about promotion and discussion of this years draft?

Road to the Draft is back some time this month.

 

[Knightmare]

KM,
When do you think the AFL/AFL media will start to get serious about promotion and discussion of this years draft? The weekly TAC cup stars is poor with little to poor footage and most importantly information on this years prospects. It just seems like a chance for Plough and Brown to get their mugs on TV with little actual insight and info on this years draft prospects. Especially with it seems live trading apparently happening soon on draft night it will be a bit of a farce if the viewing public have no idea who they are giving up for said draft pick. It will also help the commentators come round 1 actually knowing what to expect from certain players and won't make them sound as unprofessional as they already are. They do it much better in the states and am hoping we at least begin to head in that direction here soon.

Can't say I watch TAC Cup Future Stars. It would be a solid 3, maybe 4 years since I've seen so much as a segment from the show. I've never found there to be enough insight into any of the prospects to be engaged by it. It's not a program I walk away from feeling like I've learnt anything, to be bothered with it. They don't spend very long covering the draft. It feels like they're doing more advertising within the program than they do covering anything worthwhile about the draft.

In general, I've never been engaged with the mainstream AFL content with nothing on TV or YouTube that grabs me. I'll read the occasional online piece on various sites if it's a topic of interest (some draft/trade content here/there), but that's about all.

I think it will mostly be the online media sites that will cover the draft and capitalise on it over the second half of the year as some fans supporting various clubs start to lose hope in the season. Maybe Foxfooty will also (can't say I have the channel to know their patterns/shows).

It's usually as soon as we get into the finals and then once the finals are complete that the interest in the draft goes out of control, so there will be stacks of content during those times.

Like you, I much prefer the content in the States - both TV and online. ESPN First Take, Undisputed on FS1. NBA Draft Express was fantastic with the videos they produced until ESPN rightly took their talent. Wilt Chamberlain archive (youtube). B-ball breakdown (youtube). Sam Smith (Bulls.com). I also really enjoy all the commentary teams covering games, even the local ones. It's all a class above what we produce here with the insight they give - rather than all the commentary around perceived poor umpiring decisions or calling every play - they're constantly giving expert comments through the games which I find more educational/entertaining and it's something as an industry I hope in time is learnt from.

It's always bothered me that our commentators and those past players who show up on AFL shows for the most part don't feel like they watch much footy, and have little idea into each player. None of them seem to live and breath footy and wouldn't know every player back to front from all their capabilities to all their stats. And a lot of that comes down to these gigs on TV not being full time, year round positions for any of them to be bothered to put in the time to be able to go a whole match and give constant expert comments.

 

[RIOLINWITPUNCHS]

Knightmare what do you know of Ben Cardamone from the Ranges?

I see he was recently added to our NGA for this year and he has been best on ground in each of the 1st 2 TAC rounds.

Haven't heard his name mentioned at all until a few weeks ago.

 

[Knightmare]

Knightmare what do you know of Ben Cardamone from the Ranges?

I see he was recently added to our NGA for this year and he has been best on ground in each of the 1st 2 TAC rounds.

Haven't heard his name mentioned at all until a few weeks ago.

He's a hard nut of a defender. He's nothing flashy but you notice him because he gives you the second and third efforts and really have a crack when the ball is there to be won and will intercept here/there. He can also line up at stoppages and win it.

Also interesting to note that he takes a lot of the kickouts for Eastern. He's an only ok kick, but that Eastern team really is terrible this year with all of last years top age talent that carried them last year moving into the AFL ranks, so he will be in the bests more weeks than not.

Lacks the polish to be an early choice, but later in the draft, he could be considered, for sure.

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On the topic of Hawthorn NGA boys. Look out for Irving Mosquito. Super lively forward who also looks draftable as a later/rookie type. Another you'll notice any week you see him play in the TAC with through the brand he plays.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

If he maintains it and what I've read from this medium, Cardamone will be their top pick.

 

[Knightmare]

If he maintains it and what I've read from this medium, Cardamone will be their top pick.

This is a strong draft, particularly up the top end.

Cardamone was the only guy for Eastern who seemed to have a crack v Oakleigh in round 1. So he deserves full credit. He has a crack.

I haven't spoken to others about Cardamone, but I wouldn't be going with Cardamone early though. He has a go, but he has a lot to provide to suggest he should go early. He didn't star last year and this year while he's playing a much larger role this year, he lacks the polish I would have thought to be a first or second round choice when there are so many impressive players to choose from.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

This is a strong draft, particularly up the top end.

Cardamone was the only guy for Eastern who seemed to have a crack v Oakleigh in round 1. So he deserves full credit. He has a crack.

I haven't spoken to others about Cardamone, but I wouldn't be going with Cardamone early though. He has a go, but he has a lot to provide to suggest he should go early. He didn't star last year and this year while he's playing a much larger role this year, he lacks the polish I would have thought to be a first or second round choice when there are so many impressive players to choose from.

Thanks for the reply KM.

 

[briztoon]

If he maintains it and what I've read from this medium, Cardamone will be their top pick.

Just a general observation. No team should ever voluntarily select their own academy kids high in the draft. Basically academy kids allows your team to double dip to a certain degree. Use your first pick/s on kids in the open draft pool, then match bids on your academy kids with later pick/s when another club bids on them.

 

[RIOLINWITPUNCHS]

He's a hard nut of a defender. He's nothing flashy but you notice him because he gives you the second and third efforts and really have a crack when the ball is there to be won and will intercept here/there. He can also line up at stoppages and win it.

Also interesting to note that he takes a lot of the kickouts for Eastern. He's an only ok kick, but that Eastern team really is terrible this year with all of last years top age talent that carried them last year moving into the AFL ranks, so he will be in the bests more weeks than not.

Lacks the polish to be an early choice, but later in the draft, he could be considered, for sure.

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On the topic of Hawthorn NGA boys. Look out for Irving Mosquito. Super lively forward who also looks draftable as a later/rookie type. Another you'll notice any week you see him play in the TAC with through the brand he plays.

Thanks KM much appreciate the reply.

My fiance is convinced Quaynor (sp) will be a player but what would she know?

 

[Knightmare]

Thanks KM much appreciate the reply.

My fiance is convinced Quaynor (sp) will be a player but what would she know?

It sounds like you have a keeper.

Quaynor while another who I don't tip to go early I view as a solid second half of draft choice if the draft was held tomorrow. Collingwood next gen academy player who has a lot of Harry O to him. Will contain his opponents influence, take some intercept marks here/there. Can win the ground ball and provide some run, skills decent and has excellent size/strength for his age.

 

[Turbocat]

Knightmare ... do you have an opinion on the anti density rules in the TAC which prevent the type of zoning in D. I have heard it said multiple times recently that its felt among certain clubs that its preventing tall forwards from developing the skills to cope with it in the afl? Great to show off skills but is it really a distortion of worth. Schache for example has struggled , probably for several reasons but a #2 pick ... its a bit disappointing. The SA and WA boys playing in their local comp seem to come in closer to ready. Darcy Fogerty looks good and Lukosius has kicked goals at sanfl level so one would think he would be closer to ready when picked.

 

[UPYRSFMTP]

Knightmare ... a question (or three) ..

will or could father sons picks / next Generation academy prospects affect the 2018 draft for a club ?
will or could players who have a link affect clubs in the 2018 draft ?
I wonder that possible picks the players below could get in the draft

16 clubs will have to think on what they do in the draft .. (as their is heaps of next generation academy players, father son picks, sons who fathers played a few games with a club, nephews, brothers etc) ..

here is the list of players in the 2018 draft that has some sort of link with a club ..

Next Generation Academy prospects / 2018 Father son prospects + players in some way related to a relevant club:

CARLTON
Nick Riebelt (2018), Eltham, Multicultural
Sunny Brazier (2018), North Fitzroy, Multicultural
Mitchell Wild (2018), South Morang, Indigenous
Will Hickmott (Adrian) Carlton [2018]
Oskar Manton (Glenn) Carlton [2018]
Ben Silvagni (Stephen) Carlton [2018]
Dylan O'Reilly - father / son - Under 100 games
Lachlan Sholl - father / son - Under 100 games
Jordan Butts - father / son - Under 100 games
Mitch Wild - father / son - Under 100 games
Ian Hill - cousin (Jarrod Pickett)
Kye Quirk - Grandson of Brian Quirk

ESSENDON
Lucas Cooper (2018), Maningrida, Indigenous
Mason Fletcher (Dustin) Essendon [2018]

FREMANTLE
Jason Carter (2018), Wyndham, Indigenous
Dylan O'Reilly - father / son - Under 100 games
Ian Hill - cousin (Stephen / Bradley)

HAWTHORN
Stephen Kapahnke (2018), Macclesfield, Multicultural
Irving Mosquito (2018), Briagolong, Indigenous
Kyle Barlow (father / son)
Delvin Brereton (father / son)

NORTH MELBOURNE
Tarryn Thomas (2018), Hadspen, Indigenous
Joel Crocker (Darren) North [2018]
Nick Blakey (multiple father son choices)
Bailey Scott (multiple father son choices)
Will Chandler - father / son - Under 100 games

RICHMOND
Ajak Dang (2018), Mooroopna, Multicultural
Kyle Clarke (2018), Shepparton, Indigenous
Phillip Moi Moi (2018), Robinvale, Multicultural
Kailen Walker (2018), Red Cliffs, Indigenous
Zac Knights - father / son

WESTERN BULLDOGS
Buku Khamis (2018), St Albans, Multicultural
Rhylee West (Scott) Western Bulldogs [2018]

BRISBANE
Jake Bradshaw (Daniel) Brisbane [2018]
James Rendell (Matt) Brisbane [2018]
Casey Voss (Michael) Brisbane [2018]
Nick Blakey (multiple father son choices)
Tom Berry (Brother of a current player)
Jarrod Cameron (Brother Charlie & West Coast Next Gen Academy)

CrOWS
Zac Hart (Ben) Adelaide [2018]

GEELONG
Oscar Brownless (Billy) Geelong [2018]
Lochlan Hocking (Garry) Geelong [2018]
Baxter Mensch (David) Geelong [2018]
Bailey Scott - father / son
Dylan O'Reilly - father / son - Under 100 games
Elliott Lamb - father / son - Under 100 games

COLLINGWOOD
Will Kelly (Craig) Collingwood [2018]
Mitch Wild - father / son - Under 100 games

SUNS
Bailey Scott - father / son

SWANS
Kyle Dunkley (father / son)
Nick Blakey (multiple father son choices)
Jake Lloyd - brother

POWER
Mitch Mead (father / son)
Kai Pudney - Multicultural and Aboriginal Next Gen Academy
Martin Frederick - Multicultural and Aboriginal Next Gen Academy

SAINTS
Elliott Lamb - father / son - U100 games

WEST COAST
Jarrod Cameron (West Coast Next Gen Academy - Brother of Brisbanes Charlie)

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Others of interest
Bailey Griffen - nephew of Dean Brogan
Eli Smith - nephew of Joel Smith (Hawks / Saints)
Jacob Koschitzke - cousin Justin (Saints)
Jacob Atley - Brother of Ports Joe Atley & North's Shaun
Zach Denahy - cousin of Dustin Martin
Jarred Gilbee -nephew of Lindsay Gilbee

 

[Knightmare]

Knightmare ... do you have an opinion on the anti density rules in the TAC which prevent the type of zoning in D. I have heard it said multiple times recently that its felt among certain clubs that its preventing tall forwards from developing the skills to cope with it in the afl? Great to show off skills but is it really a distortion of worth. Schache for example has struggled , probably for several reasons but a #2 pick ... its a bit disappointing. The SA and WA boys playing in their local comp seem to come in closer to ready. Darcy Fogerty looks good and Lukosius has kicked goals at sanfl level so one would think he would be closer to ready when picked.

It's an interesting comment I haven't considered.

I've looked at it the other way - wishing the AFL would introduce the anti density rules the TAC Cup has in place to reduce the number of stoppages and see greater flow and ball movement on match day. So my hope is less that the TAC Cup change as much as the AFL make the change to open up the ground.

Following on from this. I flat out loved AFLX. It's ideal for preseason (to get the run into the legs, get less contact) and is no replacement for the real game. But there is a whole lot I really enjoyed. 10 point supergoal (behind 50m) adds complexity and an extra layer of excitement and means players with either take the chance or not, 20 second shot clock rather than 30 and while I wouldn't necessarily say we need less players on the ground, I'd be looking to go in the direction of having anti density rules at stoppages. I'd also be looking to go the other way to the AFL with regard to rotations and the interchange rules. I'd expand the bench to 6 with a few to eventually move up to 8 and make the rotations unlimited. With a holistic view towards increasing the pace of the game and rewarding speed of movement offensively through run/skill.

Going back to your idea though about whether key forwards coming out of the TAC Cup are effected by the rules. What year was the anti density rule established in the TAC Cup? Actually going back and practically looking through the years since it has been introduced and the success rate of the key forwards to come out of the TAC Cup would be the most informative measure to tell us whether there could be any correlation between the rule and the success or otherwise of the prospects.

In the case of Schache being the example you use. I considered him overrated in his draft year. I had him at 7, and in my secondary talent tier with Hopper/Oliver/Weitering/Mills my top tier in 2015 and those I viewed as top 5 on list talents from that year. Schache I thought could be a top 10 on list player but I never felt he would be that transcendent key forward. He was reliable in front of goal, but he never felt like he was taking games by the throat and lacking that point of difference to be that super star.

Similarly in other cases I was of the view other recent key forwards were taken too high. Sticking with the 2015 draft. I didn't think Weideman or either of the McKay boys should have done as high as they did with none of them inside my top 25 that year.

Going back to 2014 I and many others didn't have Patrick McCartin at number one (I rated him at 5). For balance though I completely missed the mark on Reece McKenzie that year rating him at 6.

So I'm not necessarily based on my own generally lower ratings than clubs are coming up with on draft day feeling the talent ID/ranking of Victorian key forwards relative to other prospects is as on the money as it should be with clubs taking a lot of the key forwards much higher than I'd be willing to.

A further consideration is in Victoria you don't have the same senior competition as you do interstate. The TAC Cup sides are separate to the VFL. Sure, the players can play up to three games, but unlike with Lukosius who can play every game in the SANFL at League level if he wants to, the King boys can't do that and I would argue more than the anti density rule that this is where they are more greatly disadvantaged.

So there are a lot of variables in play.

By virtue of having different rules in the TAC Cup to the AFL, I see the development of TAC Cup prospects (including key forwards) more so as being different than I do being worse. Overall it probably helps the key forwards in that it enables them to have more 1v1 contests with less flooding back and third man up to deal with which can lead to better numbers than otherwise they would achieve on a surface level which should be considered. I actually think the anti density rules if I was to identify a type it really benefits, I would definitely look at the more outside players and makes them look better than they are. We see with mids who can win it in the contest. They translate magnificently more often than not. On the other hand, those who can't win it in the contest often find it hard to find the ball at the next level. If someone has been in the industry long enough or have followed the draft long enough though they should already be aware of this trend with inside/outside players.

 

[Knightmare]

Knightmare ... a question (or three) ..

will or could father sons picks / next Generation academy prospects affect the 2018 draft for a club ?
will or could players who have a link affect clubs in the 2018 draft ?
I wonder that possible picks the players below could get in the draft

16 clubs will have to think on what they do in the draft .. (as their is heaps of next generation academy players, father son picks, sons who fathers played a few games with a club, nephews, brothers etc) ..

here is the list of players in the 2018 draft that has some sort of link with a club ..

Next Generation Academy prospects / 2018 Father son prospects + players in some way related to a relevant club:

CARLTON
Nick Riebelt (2018), Eltham, Multicultural
Sunny Brazier (2018), North Fitzroy, Multicultural
Mitchell Wild (2018), South Morang, Indigenous
Will Hickmott (Adrian) Carlton [2018]
Oskar Manton (Glenn) Carlton [2018]
Ben Silvagni (Stephen) Carlton [2018]
Dylan O'Reilly - father / son - Under 100 games
Lachlan Sholl - father / son - Under 100 games
Jordan Butts - father / son - Under 100 games
Mitch Wild - father / son - Under 100 games
Ian Hill - cousin (Jarrod Pickett)
Kye Quirk - Grandson of Brian Quirk

ESSENDON
Lucas Cooper (2018), Maningrida, Indigenous
Mason Fletcher (Dustin) Essendon [2018]

FREMANTLE
Jason Carter (2018), Wyndham, Indigenous
Dylan O'Reilly - father / son - Under 100 games
Ian Hill - cousin (Stephen / Bradley)

HAWTHORN
Stephen Kapahnke (2018), Macclesfield, Multicultural
Irving Mosquito (2018), Briagolong, Indigenous
Kyle Barlow (father / son)
Delvin Brereton (father / son)

NORTH MELBOURNE
Tarryn Thomas (2018), Hadspen, Indigenous
Joel Crocker (Darren) North [2018]
Nick Blakey (multiple father son choices)
Bailey Scott (multiple father son choices)
Will Chandler - father / son - Under 100 games

RICHMOND
Ajak Dang (2018), Mooroopna, Multicultural
Kyle Clarke (2018), Shepparton, Indigenous
Phillip Moi Moi (2018), Robinvale, Multicultural
Kailen Walker (2018), Red Cliffs, Indigenous
Zac Knights - father / son

WESTERN BULLDOGS
Buku Khamis (2018), St Albans, Multicultural
Rhylee West (Scott) Western Bulldogs [2018]

BRISBANE
Jake Bradshaw (Daniel) Brisbane [2018]
James Rendell (Matt) Brisbane [2018]
Casey Voss (Michael) Brisbane [2018]
Nick Blakey (multiple father son choices)
Tom Berry (Brother of a current player)
Jarrod Cameron (Brother Charlie & West Coast Next Gen Academy)

CrOWS
Zac Hart (Ben) Adelaide [2018]

GEELONG
Oscar Brownless (Billy) Geelong [2018]
Lochlan Hocking (Garry) Geelong [2018]
Baxter Mensch (David) Geelong [2018]
Bailey Scott - father / son
Dylan O'Reilly - father / son - Under 100 games
Elliott Lamb - father / son - Under 100 games

COLLINGWOOD
Will Kelly (Craig) Collingwood [2018]
Mitch Wild - father / son - Under 100 games

SUNS
Bailey Scott - father / son

SWANS
Kyle Dunkley (father / son)
Nick Blakey (multiple father son choices)
Jake Lloyd - brother

POWER
Mitch Mead (father / son)
Kai Pudney - Multicultural and Aboriginal Next Gen Academy
Martin Frederick - Multicultural and Aboriginal Next Gen Academy

SAINTS
Elliott Lamb - father / son - U100 games

WEST COAST
Jarrod Cameron (West Coast Next Gen Academy - Brother of Brisbanes Charlie)

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Others of interest
Bailey Griffen - nephew of Dean Brogan
Eli Smith - nephew of Joel Smith (Hawks / Saints)
Jacob Koschitzke - cousin Justin (Saints)
Jacob Atley - Brother of Ports Joe Atley & North's Shaun
Zach Denahy - cousin of Dustin Martin
Jarred Gilbee -nephew of Lindsay Gilbee

There are a lot of father son and next gen academy prospects in the mix this year.

People are going to notice very quickly with my weekly wraps, I'll be mentioned players each week who are either father sons or academy prospects at the various clubs.

There are some possible top end types: Nick Blakey, Bailey Scott, Tarryn Thomas and maybe Rhylee West who can go in the first half of the draft. Blakey and Scott are made incredible complicated being father sons for two clubs and academy choices for another club each.

In the second half of the draft though, there are a hell of a lot who can get picked up and make cases for selection. I'm thinking 10+ others is entirely possible, and if not including the rookie draft those numbers should be clocked up fairly easily.

Then you've got so many really capable players who are relations of other players. Thomas Berry I really liked the look of last year and he has a shot at featuring inside the first half of the draft with a strong year. Dylan O'Reilly as a key forward I really like and have inside my top 30 early days as a key forward. And there are a few other relations of players who I also see getting picked.

So as a draft from the perspective of seeing all the various academy prospects in combination with all the father sons and sons of past players. We've never seen anything like it with all the links of players to clubs. It's going to mean an incredible amount of fan interest and engagement with the draft this year as soon as they hear a mention of Mason Fletcher, Ben Silvagni, Joel Crocker, Irving Mosquito (Hawthorn nga) or whoever has had a strong week or done something notable.

 

[Bicks]

Knightmare ... a question (or three) ..

will or could father sons picks / next Generation academy prospects affect the 2018 draft for a club ?
will or could players who have a link affect clubs in the 2018 draft ?
I wonder that possible picks the players below could get in the draft

16 clubs will have to think on what they do in the draft .. (as their is heaps of next generation academy players, father son picks, sons who fathers played a few games with a club, nephews, brothers etc) ..

here is the list of players in the 2018 draft that has some sort of link with a club ..

Next Generation Academy prospects / 2018 Father son prospects + players in some way related to a relevant club:

CARLTON
Nick Riebelt (2018), Eltham, Multicultural
Sunny Brazier (2018), North Fitzroy, Multicultural
Mitchell Wild (2018), South Morang, Indigenous
Will Hickmott (Adrian) Carlton [2018]
Oskar Manton (Glenn) Carlton [2018]
Ben Silvagni (Stephen) Carlton [2018]
Dylan O'Reilly - father / son - Under 100 games
Lachlan Sholl - father / son - Under 100 games
Jordan Butts - father / son - Under 100 games
Mitch Wild - father / son - Under 100 games
Ian Hill - cousin (Jarrod Pickett)
Kye Quirk - Grandson of Brian Quirk

ESSENDON
Lucas Cooper (2018), Maningrida, Indigenous
Mason Fletcher (Dustin) Essendon [2018]

FREMANTLE
Jason Carter (2018), Wyndham, Indigenous
Dylan O'Reilly - father / son - Under 100 games
Ian Hill - cousin (Stephen / Bradley)

HAWTHORN
Stephen Kapahnke (2018), Macclesfield, Multicultural
Irving Mosquito (2018), Briagolong, Indigenous
Kyle Barlow (father / son)
Delvin Brereton (father / son)

NORTH MELBOURNE
Tarryn Thomas (2018), Hadspen, Indigenous
Joel Crocker (Darren) North [2018]
Nick Blakey (multiple father son choices)
Bailey Scott (multiple father son choices)
Will Chandler - father / son - Under 100 games

RICHMOND
Ajak Dang (2018), Mooroopna, Multicultural
Kyle Clarke (2018), Shepparton, Indigenous
Phillip Moi Moi (2018), Robinvale, Multicultural
Kailen Walker (2018), Red Cliffs, Indigenous
Zac Knights - father / son

WESTERN BULLDOGS
Buku Khamis (2018), St Albans, Multicultural
Rhylee West (Scott) Western Bulldogs [2018]

BRISBANE
Jake Bradshaw (Daniel) Brisbane [2018]
James Rendell (Matt) Brisbane [2018]
Casey Voss (Michael) Brisbane [2018]
Nick Blakey (multiple father son choices)
Tom Berry (Brother of a current player)
Jarrod Cameron (Brother Charlie & West Coast Next Gen Academy)

CrOWS
Zac Hart (Ben) Adelaide [2018]

GEELONG
Oscar Brownless (Billy) Geelong [2018]
Lochlan Hocking (Garry) Geelong [2018]
Baxter Mensch (David) Geelong [2018]
Bailey Scott - father / son
Dylan O'Reilly - father / son - Under 100 games
Elliott Lamb - father / son - Under 100 games

COLLINGWOOD
Will Kelly (Craig) Collingwood [2018]
Mitch Wild - father / son - Under 100 games

SUNS
Bailey Scott - father / son

SWANS
Kyle Dunkley (father / son)
Nick Blakey (multiple father son choices)
Jake Lloyd - brother

POWER
Mitch Mead (father / son)
Kai Pudney - Multicultural and Aboriginal Next Gen Academy
Martin Frederick - Multicultural and Aboriginal Next Gen Academy

SAINTS
Elliott Lamb - father / son - U100 games

WEST COAST
Jarrod Cameron (West Coast Next Gen Academy - Brother of Brisbanes Charlie)

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Others of interest
Bailey Griffen - nephew of Dean Brogan
Eli Smith - nephew of Joel Smith (Hawks / Saints)
Jacob Koschitzke - cousin Justin (Saints)
Jacob Atley - Brother of Ports Joe Atley & North's Shaun
Zach Denahy - cousin of Dustin Martin
Jarred Gilbee -nephew of Lindsay Gilbee

Matty Lloyd - Jake Lloyd's brother

 

[Turbocat]

There are a lot of father son and next gen academy prospects in the mix this year.

People are going to notice very quickly with my weekly wraps, I'll be mentioned players each week who are either father sons or academy prospects at the various clubs.

There are some possible top end types: Nick Blakey, Bailey Scott, Tarryn Thomas and maybe Rhylee West who can go in the first half of the draft. Blakey and Scott are made incredible complicated being father sons for two clubs and academy choices for another club each.

In the second half of the draft though, there are a hell of a lot who can get picked up and make cases for selection. I'm thinking 10+ others is entirely possible, and if not including the rookie draft those numbers should be clocked up fairly easily.

Then you've got so many really capable players who are relations of other players. Thomas Berry I really liked the look of last year and he has a shot at featuring inside the first half of the draft with a strong year. Dylan O'Reilly as a key forward I really like and have inside my top 30 early days as a key forward. And there are a few other relations of players who I also see getting picked.

So as a draft from the perspective of seeing all the various academy prospects in combination with all the father sons and sons of past players. We've never seen anything like it with all the links of players to clubs. It's going to mean an incredible amount of fan interest and engagement with the draft this year as soon as they hear a mention of Mason Fletcher, Ben Silvagni, Joel Crocker, Irving Mosquito (Hawthorn nga) or whoever has had a strong week or done something notable.

I have seen it spelt that way ..but I think its Dillon O'Reilly. Anyway.. how good is the kid? Frep would be a bit peeved. 98 games by Stephen O'Reilly. He did play for the Cats for a while ..but no where near enough for father son

 

[Knightmare]

Matty Lloyd - Jake Lloyd's brother

I'll add on Lloyd having seen a bit of him last year. Really good kick. Plays a very uncontested game down back, but he'll rack it up like his brother and uses it very effectively to a target.

I have seen it spelt that way ..but I think its Dillon O'Reilly. Anyway.. how good is the kid? Frep would be a bit peeved. 98 games by Stephen O'Reilly. He did play for the Cats for a while ..but no where near enough for father son

In my haste in responding I have the spelling wrong on Dillon (I have him right on page 1 in my preview for this years draft last year).

Pretty handy getting a 7 and two 5 goal hauls in 2017 as an underager in the Colts. Will be interesting to track his development this year.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

So is O'Reilly's given name Dillon or Dylan?

 

[GoGrows]

Try Will Walker early 2017 versus late 2017. Improved his clean ball gathering below his feet immensely. Didn’t make Metro squad in April, yet taken at #23 in November.

It can happen.

not impossible. anything CAN happen, certainly.

 

[dlanod]

SUNS
Bailey Scott - father / son

SWANS
Nick Blakey (multiple father son choices)

It's worth noting that the "father/son" link is through coaching, so aren't eligible through the actual father/son rules - similar to how you have the U100 notation for player linkages who aren't eligible. Instead they're eligible for selection via the clubs' academies.