Past Kurt Tippett - retired 2018

[The King!]

http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1808&SeasonID=2015#ind


This has concerned me for a few weeks now. Forget the salary and the bs mud slinging on the main board.

This guy can play IMO. I thought his first year as the main forward once he was available was very good, he was hitting the scoreboard and leading, last year was so interrupted but him and Buddy seemed to work quite well.

Wayne Carey was right last night, though he has been anti Tippett a while. But i see a guy who does not understand footy, does not use his strengths. He either is in the ruck or he engages in a deep wrestle, and its not working, in fact he is starting to get rag dolled by people smaller than him.

Is he hurt? Is it form? Is the ruck work ruining his output and leaving him cooked

I thought playing every week would help, but bar the Melbourne game his last month has been shit, got a few goals late last night, but his work rate when forward has been poor.


Delivery to Tippett is average but i think he needs to lead more and he needs to get better at reading the flight of the ball and outbodying his man

Not suggesting he be dropped, but maybe the ruck balance needs work or he needs some one on one work with a forward? Can we lower his ruck time?

Any thoughts? Because the flag is a much bigger chance if he is at his best and i think we have seen what he can bring when in form

 

[vonn]

Sir Swan's cat is all like

 

[Faysals Swans]

I really like tippo but I think he doesn't play well a second foward? When he's the main target he plays a lot better, its not like the game plan is to make him a decoy, a lot of the kicks that go to him make it very difficult to mark, he does well with what he gets, now that we have buddy most kicks don't go near tippo, in 2013 when tippo was our target he averaged the most goals of any player in that year, because every ball was going his way, now buddy gets 75% of it an only 25% to tippet

 

[Punts]

Not a natural player , basketballer

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

We are in a pickle here.. obviously we would love to leave Tippo parked in the goalsquare and i think rucking is having a effect on his output.

Obviously we can't play 2 rucks + Tippett in the same side ideally we are missing a mobile/athletic ruck who is not useless or out of the contest when the ball hits the ground.

Someone like a Stanley if we had that then playing 2 rucks and leaving Tippett in the goalsquare wouldn't be so bad, we saw the horror show last year of playing Tippett, Dericckxkx, Pyke in the same side against Richmond.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Not a natural player , basketballer

His strength is playing in the goal square.

 

[vonn]

He does this thing that shits me - he jumps at the ball from a lead, does all of the right body positioning and then doesn't hold the mark even though he gets hands on. I'm not sure if that's a confidence thing or a technique thing. He almost taps the balls down in a way as though he is expecting to not hold it.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

He does this thing that shits me - he jumps at the ball from a lead, does all of the right body positioning and then doesn't hold the mark even though he gets hands on. I'm not sure if that's a confidence thing or a technique thing. He almost taps the balls down in a way as though he is expecting to not hold it.

Cause he gets his arms chopped in every contest.

 

[vonn]

Cause he gets his arms chopped in every contest.

Umpire bashing aside, this happens more around the ground or just on the edge of the 50 as opposed to inside F50.

 

[The King!]

I think his performance has declined each week

He looked fresh early

Maybe he cant handle too many games?

 

[The King!]

Sir Swan's cat is all like

I can see a BSB thread on cats soon

 

[DeadlyAkkuret]

Not a natural player , basketballer

An easy out when he's playing below his best. Was he just a basketballer when he was our leading goal scorer and averaging 3 goals a game? You don't just fluke that ability and lose it overnight.

He's in a form slump. Nothing more.

 

[BarneyBent]

He's best when he doesn't have to leave the goalsquare. I'd be in favour of trialing Reid as a relief ruckman for Pyke. When not rucking, Reid can keep playing that wing/flanker role.

 

[AG]

He's best when he doesn't have to leave the goalsquare. I'd be in favour of trialing Reid as a relief ruckman for Pyke. When not rucking, Reid can keep playing that wing/flanker role.

Was just going to post this.

As Punts said, Tippett isn't a natural footballer. Simplify his game, play to his strengths, which is using his size in the goal square. He doesn't seem to have a massive tank and for someone with known injury issues, making him carry his large frame around the ground in the ruck will only speed up his retirement from the game.

Leave him in the goal square for a few weeks and see how it goes. Reid can pinch hit in the ruck and has been playing well around the middle of the ground anyway. Franklin and Goodes roaming around the rest of the F50/wings. Parker/Rohan are decent in the air and can play as other marking targets.

 

[Mick Oxlong]

His strength is playing in the goal square.

And Franklin's is CHF. Easy solution, play them there! None of this rucking bullshit either!

 

[The King!]

And Franklin's is CHF. Easy solution, play them there! None of this rucking bullshit either!

Agree but who rucks then?

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Agree but who rucks then?

Hence our problem lol.

 

[Mick Oxlong]

Agree but who rucks then?

It seems to be the 3rd man up these days! The day of the ruckman is almost over.

 

[The King!]

It seems to be the 3rd man up these days! The day of the ruckman is almost over.

Pyke could ruck 85-90 of a game, still need someone to give a chop out, not sure it can be luke parker

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Pyke could ruck 85-90 of a game, still need someone to give a chop out, not sure it can be luke parker

Our problem stems from the fact that both our ruckman move around the ground like dinosaurs.

 

[Millky95]

We are dangerous when going for him though. Not bad at crumbing and often gets our mids and small forwards involved. If he could hold on to a mark or not get fatigued when rucking he would be fine

 

[The King!]

We are dangerous when going for him though. Not bad at crumbing and often gets our mids and small forwards involved. If he could hold on to a mark or not get fatigued when rucking he would be fine

Tippett has been good at his best and we are dangerous i want to see us get back to that

 

[Millky95]

Tippett has been good at his best and we are dangerous i want to see us get back to that

Think he is in a bit of a slump but will get through. Will enjoy the bye. Maybe rest him one game closer to finals and have him firing

 

[The King!]

Its a mixture of slump for mine (because he is not winning any of those wrestles) and footy nous, to get space, leading patterns etc

 

[db swannie]

His strength is playing in the goal square.

True. I seem to remember he was at his best at the crows when playing behind his man and taking marks climbing over the defender. These days he keeps trying to play in front, flaps his arms all over the place and is quite ineffective.