Player Watch Lachlan Murphy - 100 Games!

[FR0GGY]

i'm on the defence constantly because people are obssesed by him

depends who gets selected round 1

eg i think murphy is better at his role than what Sholl is at playing wing, or Sloane /Mchenry last year in their roles

much more trustworthy than someone like Cook

other guys that are average as well in their roles in terms of AFL level include Butts, Jones, Berry, Worrell, ROB, oh and keays but he's better than Murphy

Some like Worrell are going to be much much better than Murphy though, hard to compare diff roles though too

we don't agree and never will so that's where it ends, eventually we will,agree because i'll call for him to be omitted but then i'll call for him to come in and replace mchenry again so we will disagree again haha

I bang on about this but cook played very well and got dropped last year.
We have enough triers/effort players in our team we can afford to play some more class.

 

[1970crow]

So with 75% time on ground, Murphy had 16 disposals, two goals and three tackles. Not that bad for a small forward I would have thought.

I think we've made enough mistakes throughout the years judging players when we've won easily. I think it's best to wait for actual premiership point matches and games where there's some intensity and pressure.

 

[1970crow]

Is his lack of goal kicking an issue in our current side ? I’d argue it’s not

Pies hadn't worked it out by half way through last season, I guess our system is just superior. Should always be considering ways to improve. You can always carry an Andy Otten up forward in the most powerful attack in the league, until you can't.

 

[1970crow]

You can’t expect every forward/mid in our team to average 20 touches and over a goal a game lol

The point is that we shouldn't lock in the average, we should try up and corners in that role and see if we're sitting on someone who can make a difference when it matters. We know Murphy is ok when it doesn't, but he doesn't stand up when the heat is on.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I bang on about this but cook played very well and got dropped last year.
We have enough triers/effort players in our team we can afford to play some more class.

plenty of class in our side

 

[CrowTownRoad]

Nearly threw up when I saw him line up on a wing at one point yesterday. Having a golden ticket on your own position is one thing but having that extend to other players’ positions is a shocker from the coaches

 

[cleanhands]

Nearly threw up when I saw him line up on a wing at one point yesterday. Having a golden ticket on your own position is one thing but having that extend to other players’ positions is a shocker from the coaches

Spent some time there the week before against the Pear as well

 

[Danger in Texas]

The point is that we shouldn't lock in the average, we should try up and corners in that role and see if we're sitting on someone who can make a difference when it matters. We know Murphy is ok when it doesn't, but he doesn't stand up when the heat is on.

I get it, but I’d only make that call if it meets a few criteria

1) someone’s shown very good form in the twos for a few weeks straight
2) Murphy’s performing at an average or worse level
3) they’re either a direct replacement for Murphy’s role, or we can re-shuffle the deck appropriately so that things still make sense in the balance of our side (eg Smith to wing, making room for a Nank or Curtin)

I’d want to be very confident that whoever comes in can give at least the same, if not better production. As a side hoping to push into finals, we can’t afford to mess around with selection so much that we have complete zero’s playing in any games that are at all prone to a loss

 

[WeeBlake]

I get it, but I’d only make that call if it meets a few criteria

1) someone’s shown very good form in the twos for a few weeks straight
2) Murphy’s performing at an average or worse level
3) they’re either a direct replacement for Murphy’s role, or we can re-shuffle the deck appropriately so that things still make sense in the balance of our side (eg Smith to wing, making room for a Nank or Curtin)

I’d want to be very confident that whoever comes in can give at least the same, if not better production. As a side hoping to push into finals, we can’t afford to mess around with selection so much that we have complete zero’s playing in any games that are at all prone to a loss

If we can’t tinker with even Murphy’s selection then you’re saying it must be best 23 every week.

 

[Golumless]

If we can’t tinker with even Murphy’s selection then you’re saying it must be best 23 every week.

We have 95 (92.8) reasons not to tinker with Murphys selection.

As per always with selection, the now is what matters and the future be damned unless they are genuinely an elite talent. In that case, the future can be damned elsewhere.

 

[FR0GGY]

plenty of class in our side

Not with cooks skill set we don’t.

 

[Danger in Texas]

If we can’t tinker with even Murphy’s selection then you’re saying it must be best 23 every week.

If we have a clear best 23 it means everyone is performing, isn’t that a good thing?

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Not with cooks skill set we don’t.

ah yes we do

 

[Golumless]

Not with cooks skill set we don’t.

No, even then, we do.

After all, you could make a good case that pound for pound, we have the strongest outside midfield in the league at present. The ball retention, the ability to score every second entry, the intercepting power, Rankine and Dawson etc.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Pies hadn't worked it out by half way through last season, I guess our system is just superior. Should always be considering ways to improve. You can always carry an Andy Otten up forward in the most powerful attack in the league, until you can't.

they had Big Billy though

Murphy performs his role better than Big Bill

No, even then, we do.

After all, you could make a good case that pound for pound, we have the strongest outside midfield in the league at present. The ball retention, the ability to score every second entry, the intercepting power, Rankine and Dawson etc.

yep we just need to be ALOT better at defending oppo midfield run ons

 

[Danger in Texas]

they had Big Billy though

Murphy performs his role better than Big Bill

yep we just need to be ALOT better at defending oppo midfield run ons

Having Slow-ne completely out of the mix this year (touch wood) should help with that

 

[AFC979810]

"Small forwards must kick more goals"

"No, not like that"

When has he kicked goals?

Averages less than a goal a game. Has kicked multiple goals in just 10 of his AFL games and just twice in the past 2 seasons (39 games).

 

[AFC979810]

I think the top end versions of what Murphy does for a role kick 25 goals eg Hayward at Sydney has a similar role to push up high and in defence to pressure oppo mids and ball movement

The way Sydney use Hayward is the way we should utilize Murphy's spot in our 22.

Hayward kicked 25 goals and had 30 tackles I50 in 2023 and only 6 clearances. If Murphy did that then fantastic.

Lower end of goal kicking output for similar roles are guys like Jed McEntee , Nick Holman around 12-15 goals

But what these guys do that makes them valuable is apply pressure inside the 50.

Holman - 13 goals - 32 tackles inside 50 from 19 games (his 2022 was 16 goals and 35 Tackles Inside 50 from 20 games).
Jed McEntee who entered 2023 with 10 games under his belt had 14 goals and 28 tackles inside 50.

Murphy is a poor kick at goal and I’m hoping he can still improve and he might kick 15-18 goals this year

Agree with the first half.

As long as Rankine Rachele Pedlar and Keays keep up their goal kicking output I’m not sure it will matter whether Murphy kicks 12 or 20

The goal kicking isn't as important as the pressure, tackling and blocking for our forwards.

The issue is that everyone has acknowledged he doesn't contribute goals or I50 pressure as a small forward. So we basically have him in the team as an pseudo midfielder who averages 2.3 clearances per game. Thats a massive 1.4 more clearances per game than Taylor Walker.

 

[skam85]

So with 75% time on ground, Murphy had 16 disposals, two goals and three tackles. Not that bad for a small forward I would have thought.

....against West Coast.

 

[MRB37]

....against West Coast.

Also spent the entire 2nd half starting on the wing with McHenry. Let's hope that doesn't go near the real stuff, more of that defensive obsession that saw the likes of Crouch and Hately get put as wingmen.

 

[AFC979810]

Its genuinely surprising to me that the club thinks he had a better season than Smith, Jones, Keays, Rachele, Milera, Fog and Mad Max.

Guy just turns to water when the pressure is on.

We were in 6 games that were decided by 1 goal or less and went 1 win 5 losses from those games.

In those 6 games he had the following stats:

3 goals (.5 goals per game)
2 behinds (1 behind every 3 games)
1 goal assist (marginal)
10 clearances (1.25 clearances per game)
7 tackles inside 50 (1 inside 50 per game)
18 turnovers (3 per game)

He needs to be phased out of our best 22.

Hey Mutineer - how did Murphy perform his non statistical role tonight?

Another close game away from home which we lost by a kick.

His Stats tonight:

7 kicks, 4 handballs, 4 turnovers, 2 tackles, 3 clearances. Zero Goals, Zero Behinds, Zero Goal Assists.

All in a game that should have suited his small stature and limited physical attributes.

 

[bonehilda]

Rancid footballer

 

[1970crow]

Love his hustle.

 

[Geoffa32]

Hey Mutineer - how did Murphy perform his non statistical role tonight?

Another close game away from home which we lost by a kick.

His Stats tonight:

7 kicks, 4 handballs, 4 turnovers, 2 tackles, 3 clearances. Zero Goals, Zero Behinds, Zero Goal Assists.

All in a game that should have suited his small stature and limited physical attributes.

His 16 pressure acts. This is how Mutineer defends Murphy's spot.

Of which he was equal last behind our other mid/forwards. Rachele also 16 PA.


But none of Murphy's PA led to a score.

So he was not playing a defensive forward role. Or he was, just bad, at it.


Sog had 11 PAs.









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[George Kramer]

His 16 pressure acts. This is how Mutineer defends Murphy's spot.

Of which he was equal last behind our other mid/forwards. Rachele also 16 PA.


But none of Murphy's PA led to a score.

So he was not playing a defensive forward role. Or he was, just bad, at it.


Sog had 11 PAs.









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What are you laughing at Mutineer, you said only last night that Murphy’s role was a small pressure forward, so where was the pressure with **** all pressure acts, 2 tackles and zero inside 50 tackles