Laidley's admission of failure?

[The Big H]

"Darren Crocker - The next Bruce Doull"

"Peter Densley will be as good as Daicos"

"Sam Kekovich will win a Brownlow"

Ooops. They were said by me.

McAdam will be better than Ablett. my best.

 

[Uncle_Leo]

Proof will be in the pudding.

Still waiting Dean...

 

[Michele]

I don't even understand what he said.

QUOTE=Hearts to hearts;7163859]Carey has more than a great footy brain - he has the supernatural gift of knowing what North should be doing and what Dean is doing wrong, without even having to watch the team play.

You might need to start watching or going to games instead of listening in. Last year - and the year before, even though more results went our way - the team played defensively and were boring to watch. This year, win or lose, they are playing with flair and growing confidence. There's plenty to be pleased with if you are a North supporter. I hope you, Wayne and everyone who wants the best for the club can get enjoyment out of it.[/QUOTE]

Do you want to change your opinion?

Seems like 'others' have changed their opinions. Perhaps you would like to direct your comments to them.

btw how was North's game against Hawthorn? I don't think 'flair and growing confidence' is how I would describe the game plan.

And if you, as a moderator, get enjoyment from getting stuck into me, well by all means go right ahead.

........"There's plenty to be pleased with if you are a North supporter."

Does that include the board having secret meetings with the AFL who would like to BUY North and then shunt us off to the Gold Coast.

There were many on this board who were very critical of De Rauch, but at least he wants North to remain at Arden Street. According to the papers he holds approx 1/4 of North shares and he wasn't invited to last night's meeting.

A significant oversight. Or was it?

Perhaps they lost his mobile number.

Just to reiterate, I don't care if North lose, but it is how we play the game. If our game plan is lacking and there are no changes to that plan, then surely someone is accountable.

Are you honestly trying to tell me that what happened just prior to half-time is good footy? Perhaps it was only Hawthorn supporters who were jeering.
The North of old, would never have played that stupid keepings off that drives players and supporters to distraction.

North led the team that 'won' last year's wooden spoon by 6-7 goals in the NAB cup. AND lost.
A similar thing happened in the first round against Collingwood. AND we lost.

If you think that that is ok, then you are not particularly worried about membership. Or sponsorship.

And if we continue to play that way, we will lose more members, maybe sponsorship AND that is when the AFL WILL step in.

You can only deal from a postion of strength.

Oh and btw, I haven't even read the other thread that is not happy with our coach or coaching.

 

[mighty mick]

JYD > Wallace. + =

agree with that mate. gutted by todays goings on and cant do anything about it till i get back,

how is a team supposed to perform with all this off field crap.

 

[Event Horizon]

how is a team supposed to perform with all this off field crap.

I really don't think that Sunday's pathetic performance had anything to do with the off field situation.

Laidley has no clear direction and the players feel it. The game plan we worked all summer on has been tossed out the window in round 3.

And the coach has the nerve to say that we were so far behind the rest that it will take a while to catch up. And who is responsible for us being that far behind?

The only effect the off field stuff would have right now is that the board will not even have time to look at the on field issues, and before you know it we could be 0:8 which is almost unthinkable.

 

[Shinboners]

Do you want to change your opinion?

Seems like 'others' have changed their opinions. Perhaps you would like to direct your comments to them.

Um, what is wrong with someone changing their opinion? If it's a new situation or new facts come to light, then surely it's perfectly reasonable for someone to change their views on an issue?

Imagine if people wearn't allowed to change their opinions. We'd still think the world was the centre of the universe, that the world was flat, and Evan Hewitt was going to be our next great CHF.

 

[Woodson]

Just to think we lead by 25pts at 3/4 time in R1,
Trail by 6pts with 5minutes to go vs Port in R2,
Pull back to be within 10 pts with 5min remaining in R3...

It's only team desire + player attitude that is holding us back from winning.
JYD has quite possibly admitted he has no impact/influence anymore as I alluded to in a previous week comment.

The board is distracted and a 0-8 start is on the cards unless the players scrap together to win one or two for the members. I've already pulled the plug on JYD.. just hope he does a Terry wallet and comes out and says he can't do anything more with the team....and resigns.

 

[ArjenTheGreat]

Just to think we lead by 25pts at 3/4 time in R1,
Trail by 6pts with 5minutes to go vs Port in R2,
Pull back to be within 10 pts with 5min remaining in R3...

It's only team desire + player attitude that is holding us back from winning.
JYD has quite possibly admitted he has no impact/influence anymore as I alluded to in a previous week comment.

The board is distracted and a 0-8 start is on the cards unless the players scrap together to win one or two for the members. I've already pulled the plug on JYD.. just hope he does a Terry wallet and comes out and says he can't do anything more with the team....and resigns.

That would be the best result for all concerned.

Trotter, Smith, Hansen, Grima, Moran, Urch, Hutchison, Warren need to play asap


Sansbury, Brown, Watt never to play another game.


That would be a start.

 

[Devil Fish]

Tick, Tock.

Yes, it was certainly `tick, tock' in the last 5 minutes of the 2nd quarter against Haw - absolute masterstroke to milk the clock. I was so disappointed when Hawthorn didn't score a goal in that last few minutes on that 2nd Q just to teach the clown a lesson.

 

[jacko57]

It's only team desire + player attitude that is holding us back from winning.

Plus basic skill errors ; decision-making ; lack of talk/awareness (when a player is about to be tackled) ; and possibly the gameplan.....oh, and team selections !

 

[scottywiper]

Yes, it was certainly `tick, tock' in the last 5 minutes of the 2nd quarter against Haw - absolute masterstroke to milk the clock. I was so disappointed when Hawthorn didn't score a goal in that last few minutes on that 2nd Q just to teach the clown a lesson.

I would think that every time we have tried that, it has failed.
We don't look likely to score and due to our schizen skills, the other team always gets a last chance.
Annoys the heck out of me.

 

[Mr Reliable]

Um, what is wrong with someone changing their opinion? If it's a new situation or new facts come to light, then surely it's perfectly reasonable for someone to change their views on an issue?

Imagine if people wearn't allowed to change their opinions. We'd still think the world was the centre of the universe, that the world was flat, and Evan Hewitt was going to be our next great CHF.[/QUOTE]

Have I missed something recently about Hewitt?

I know you're joking about the other stuff.

 

[moomba]

Um, what is wrong with someone changing their opinion?

Because then you lose an internet battle, and we all know that for some thats more important than just having a discussion about footy and NMFC.

 

[DarwinRoo]

I actually think that Laidley's comments have some merit. We haved lagged behind the rest of the competition and its not just because of the whole draft pick issue.
How many clubs had to go into a season with no rookies due to salary cap restraints?
We have never finished in the bottom 4 apart from 2006 so we have never had priority picks or been able to select top quality kids. The only reason we got Wells was because Carlton cheated the salary cap.
We have never had a really bad run with injuries so we have never had to throw the youngsters into the deep end. And the injuries we do have seem to be to the kids anyway. Urch, Grima and Smith have all had injury worries whether they be long term or recurring.

NAB Cup 3 games played a good style of football
Rnds 1 and 2 played well just couldnt get the points
Rnd 3. Played like crap and now suddenly its all doom and gloom?

We dont even need Terry Wallet as our coach to start sounding like Richmond supporters.

An interesting stat that I read in the Footy Record on the weekend was that we had only kicked the ball backwards 5 times. The lowest in the competition.

 

[Shinboners]

Imagine if people wearn't allowed to change their opinions. We'd still think the world was the centre of the universe, that the world was flat, and Evan Hewitt was going to be our next great CHF.

Have I missed something recently about Hewitt?

I know you're joking about the other stuff.

Around the time BigFooty started, Evan Hewitt was named as the bloke who would eventually take over at CHF. Everyone from BigFooty Roos fans to people like Pagan and Carey said that Hewitt would become the #1 CHF in the AFL.

 

[Mr Reliable]

Around the time BigFooty started, Evan Hewitt was named as the bloke who would eventually take over at CHF. Everyone from BigFooty Roos fans to people like Pagan and Carey said that Hewitt would become the #1 CHF in the AFL.

Sorry, failed attempt at humour on my part. I know Evan was much touted.

 

[Wrath]

Where is the accountability. In almost every organisation when you are the head and you make a monumental ****up as Laids has done with "where the game was heading" you are offloaded, moved on etc. l understand people make mistakes and Laids made one of several here, but life also makes you pay for your mistakes, where is Laid's payment for his?

l know the club is focussed on other issues at the moment, but surely they should be looking at replacing Laids who has made a huge contribution to the predicament we now find ourselves in. If we are indeed going to make $1mil profit then replace Deano immediately, put a caretaker in and go in search for the right coach. It could well be the best $300k they blow.

Wrath

 

[Woodson]

Plus basic skill errors ; decision-making ; lack of talk/awareness (when a player is about to be tackled) ; and possibly the gameplan.....oh, and team selections !

That's where team desire WIPES OUT a larger slice of these blunders and overcomes gameplan flaws. Don't forget that North controlled much of the WB game last season and hung on and won... that's just a simple example of pulling it together. I don't get sucked in thinking that the team is going to win against a easier??? opponent or maybe the media doesn't think we have star players... who cares.. the media is a voice / opinion on a widespread spectrum. how often do they get 8 out of 8 winners ??? why do upsets occur??? go figure... it's all a mindgame.

Every game is 50/50.

What is clearly lacking is LEADERSHIP & ACCOUNTABILITY. Can't win many games with 12 or less contributors on any given gameday whether you're WCE or the AA team.

 

[Hearts to hearts]

Where is the accountability. In almost every organisation when you are the head and you make a monumental ****up as Laids has done with "where the game was heading" you are offloaded, moved on etc.

Unless it's Coles Myer, then you get a lovely payout for misreading the state and direction of retail in Australia. Actually, now I think of it, in almost every big corporation I've worked, people have paid no price for huge - like multi-billion dollar, thousands of powerless people - stuff-ups, beyond an eventual move and a handsome golden handshake to go with it.

However. It doesn't make it right, and I take your point.

 

[Event Horizon]

Where is the accountability. In almost every organisation when you are the head and you make a monumental ****up as Laids has done with "where the game was heading" you are offloaded, moved on etc. l understand people make mistakes and Laids made one of several here, but life also makes you pay for your mistakes, where is Laid's payment for his?

l know the club is focussed on other issues at the moment, but surely they should be looking at replacing Laids who has made a huge contribution to the predicament we now find ourselves in. If we are indeed going to make $1mil profit then replace Deano immediately, put a caretaker in and go in search for the right coach. It could well be the best $300k they blow.

Wrath

Agree with that. I'd do it sooner rather than later, and the way things are going, the board won't have to do much to justify their decision in the media.

 

[Woodson]

We have never finished in the bottom 4 apart from 2006 so we have never had priority picks or been able to select top quality kids.

This is a lame mentality. Sooky-sooky la-la infact. Who gives a rats arse about priority picks?? It's the Human development skills resources dept that is more the real factor. Club has no control over which player can be drafed but it's GOT every opportuunity to control setting up a Skills development dept that involves getting the SKILL PERSONELL TRAINERS (real ppl) not flashy gym equipment. JYD has moaned about this and I'm quite frankly dissappointed he hasn't moved on this issue and got the wheels in motion. Tactics are one thing but improving SKILLS of players are what's killing the team on the field. Nothing to do with priory picks. That's BS.

Did Jimmy Hird go in the first 10 picks??? Chris Grant??? it's flippin' lottery the draft... glorified lottery infact. Players can early burn-out also.. who is to say who they will be? WE NEED A SKILLS DEPT !! WE have NADA!!

And the injuries we do have seem to be to the kids anyway. Urch, Grima and Smith have all had injury worries whether they be long term or recurring.

Bad luck... simple. Life goes on. A new opportunity opens for the next kid.
Clubs can't wait on the potential of an injury prone player.

 

[Michele]

Um, what is wrong with someone changing their opinion? If it's a new situation or new facts come to light, then surely it's perfectly reasonable for someone to change their views on an issue?

Imagine if people wearn't allowed to change their opinions. We'd still think the world was the centre of the universe, that the world was flat, and Evan Hewitt was going to be our next great CHF.

Shinboners,

Cute. Very cute. You are deliberately distorting the context of what I said and what I meant.

Last year, there were many on this board calling for Laidley's head.

North implements a 'radical' change to our training schedule to fix our "last half game fadeouts".

NAB CUP
Nab 2007 commences. North plays 2 very good games, real North type games.

The next game we lost - after leading by 6-7 goals. Carlton were more desperate and wanted the win. We didn't show the same desperation.

Practice game
Because we lost, under AFL rules, North had to play a practice game. Why not play the inexpierenced players. Nooooooo.....we had to play Thommo and some idiot fell over Thommo's leg and he is out for the season. ?????????

RD 1
Again...North have a good lead - about 5 goals and end up losing to Collingwood. ???????

Rd 3
North supporters jeered their own team just prior and during the half-time break. Why? North chose to play dumb footy.
Archer said prior to the seaon commencing that they were going to play a 'better type of footy, not that dumb chip style". ????????

So what happened???????????

Many posters 'jumped' to Laidley's defence at the beginning of the season, after Carey's remarks.

Just 3 weeks into the season, there are many calling for Laidley's head.

It is not that we have lost our games but the trend in how we lose our games.

And that was my point.

Where is our baby Hewy??

Michele

GO THE MIGHTY ROOBOYS

 

[DarwinRoo]

Thommo played because he was struggling for form and needed confidence.

Michele, it just looks like another way to blame Laidley if you ask me.

Do we not train anymore for fear of injury?

 

[Michele]

Thommo played because he was struggling for form and needed confidence.

Michele, it just looks like another way to blame Laidley if you ask me.

Do we not train anymore for fear of injury?

Well DarwinRoo,

Thommo IS certainly struggling now. He is on crutches.

North trained for nearly 5 months and I woul have thought that the players would have some level of fitness. To play one of (our few leaders) and very good players in a scratch match is stupid.

The match committee should have been looking at ALL our young and inexperienced players, so they could get a game.

Michele

GO THE MIGHTY ROOBOYS

 

[giantroo]

Haha since the 17th nothing has happened. We won a game and everyone is supporting Laidley. Lucky i didnot post anything back then