Speculation Liam Baker

[Jeremias]

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[bzparkes]

other reports are saying Bolton, Baker & Graham to WC for #3, #23 & F1

Big lol.

Why even include Graham when he's UFA, for starters..

 

[jthanos]

lol. Uncontracted and undersized half forward.

No thanks

plays with heart like a 6 footer unlike your current KP duds ...

 

[bzparkes]

plays with heart like a 6 footer unlike your current KP duds ...

Did he make All Australian this year?

 

[TigerTime88]

I think you’ll find there isn’t one single West Coast fan who is desperate to land Baker…tells you a lot

Awkward for the West Coast fans that your list manager is then!

 

[jthanos]

Did he make All Australian this year?

that means nothing to the value a player provides to the team. AA is a popularity contest, we all know that.

 

[bzparkes]

that means nothing to the value a player provides to the team. AA is a popularity contest, we all know that.

So he's not better than 2 of our KPPs that made the AA team?

Thanks for clarifying.

 

[jthanos]

So he's not better than 2 of our KPPs that made the AA team?

Thanks for clarifying.

market will dictate, not us..

 

[bzparkes]

market will dictate, not us..

Yes, which won't be #13.

 

[Barrybran]

Bolton and Baker for 3, 23 and effectively pick 2? I'll have some of what that person is smoking please.

 

[ezza77]

Think he'd cost more than 25.

He shouldn't. Mediocre player really. Bolton yes Baker nup

 

[ezza77]

reports are saying Bolton & Baker to Freo for picks 9,10 & 17

No thanks. I don't think we're interested in Baker, hopefully not anyway. Bolton for 17 and future 2nd seems pretty fair tbh, he's no superstar

 

[eastfreo75]

I think you’ll find there isn’t one single West Coast fan who is desperate to land Baker…tells you a lot

same as Freo supporters as well.

 

[Danog]

It's like Freo are allergic to winning culture

 

[eastfreo75]

It's like Freo are allergic to winning culture

What is Baker good at? What do Fremantle need?

It's that simple.

You might say leadership, but we have players with the same type of grittiness ie Serong, Brayshaw and Young.

We need goal kickers or line breakers. Baker is not either of them.

 

[Lia]

That end ups more like 15/16 - yes he is.

He really isn't, even for a club like Freo who are at the "looking for missing pieces" stage of list management.

 

[Morro]

What is Baker good at? What do Fremantle need?

It's that simple.

You might say leadership, but we have players with the same type of grittiness ie Serong, Brayshaw and Young.

We need goal kickers or line breakers. Baker is not either of them.

If you watched Baker for the last few years, you wouldn't have to ask.

 

[Morro]

He really isn't.

Then you either have no idea or overrate picks, happy for you to select the best option.

 

[Lia]

Then you either have no idea or overrate picks, happy for you to select the best option.

Option C, Richmond fans are on strong copium and think every club they deal with is like the Gold Coast Suns. You won 2 games this year, any "winning culture" is rapidly dwindling.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Well it's pretty clear that Adam Simpson thinks Baker is A grade .....

Lucky Simpson no longer has any say in list management

 

[Coach_Required]

Lucky Simpson no longer has any say in list management

There's always one who takes things seriously

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

The sooner Richmond agree to Freo's offer of 9 and 10 for Bolton and Baker combined, the happier Richmond, Fremantle and West Coast supporters will be. Note that this is a package deal, 9 is unders for Bolton and 10 is overs for Baker.

Freo still get to either take a great player at the Port pick or sell it to a club prepared to pay the premium for trading into this year. A load of offers likely to be received and Freo sell 2024 pick in the 15 to 18 range for a pick that could well be single figure in 2025. Load up for the Warner bid with 2 x R1 in 2025

 

[Danog]

The sooner Richmond agree to Freo's offer of 9 and 10 for Bolton and Baker combined, the happier Richmond, Fremantle and West Coast supporters will be. Note that this is a package deal, 9 is unders for Bolton and 10 is overs for Baker.

Freo still get to either take a great player at the Port pick or sell it to a club prepared to pay the premium for trading into this year. A load of offers likely to be received and Freo sell 2024 pick in the 15 to 18 range for a pick that could well be single figure in 2025. Load up for the Warner bid with 2 x R1 in 2025

You're going to be in for a big surprise.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

The sooner Richmond agree to Freo's offer of 9 and 10 for Bolton and Baker combined, the happier Richmond, Fremantle and West Coast supporters will be. Note that this is a package deal, 9 is unders for Bolton and 10 is overs for Baker.

Freo still get to either take a great player at the Port pick or sell it to a club prepared to pay the premium for trading into this year. A load of offers likely to be received and Freo sell 2024 pick in the 15 to 18 range for a pick that could well be single figure in 2025. Load up for the Warner bid with 2 x R1 in 2025

The problem is I don't see how we'd have the capspace for Warner getting both Bolton and Baker. Honestly, getting linked to 50 names with some of them being very expensive has me thinking they must have had structured cap raises in contracts to not take up the full increase or something. I know it was reported only yourselves and Essendon didn't put it in at all but maybe Freo made it 30 or 50% of the raise.

Only way it all makes sense to me.

 

[eastfreo75]

If you watched Baker for the last few years, you wouldn't have to ask.

Not saying he isn't a good player.

Where does he play?

Midfield - Already have Serong, Brayshaw and Young. For argument's sake, he would be our 4th best inside midfielder. Baker he doesn't have a point of differences to them. 90th Centre Square Clearances

Goal Kicking - He was never averaged more 0.8 goals in a season. 146th ranked in goals.

Possessions - 5 players in Fremantle had more possessions. 149th ranked

Goal assist - 158th

Bounces per game - 0.4 with 301m gained


Want would pay for somebody who is part of the secondary midfield, Fremantle's 6th highest goal kicking forward, and doesn't rank in the top 50 of anything?

 

[eastfreo75]

that means nothing to the value a player provides to the team. AA is a popularity contest, we all know that.

It is but he has never made the 40 squad.

He is a solid player but not a star.