Current Louise Bell murder arrest after 30 years

[Angus Young]

If that was my child I saw in a pic like that, I'd be waiting in the principal's office within an hour of seeing it.

no chance in hell that happens now days.

 

[Tues]

no chance in hell that happens now days.

That photo is seriously disturbing and I think it was featured in the year book for that school year! I just want little Louise Bell to be finally found, her case is one I feel a strong connection to as in wanting her to finally be found, given a dignified burial and be at peace. Pfenning is a sadistic bastard and while Louise remains unfound she remains his - his trophy.

 

[Kurve]

This might be in the wrong spot but I'm seeing a bit of a trend with missing and murdered, January is a bad month.

Just in five minutes looking I've found Eloise Worlege, Louise Bell, Cheryl Grimmer, the Beaumont children and the Wanda Beach girls.

 

[charlie20]

pfennig is covering up for bigger fish, imo, when his dna matched with dna on louise's pj's he tried to claim the culprit was the same guy who did the attack on those backpackers at the coorong a few years back, germanic origins, being the argument, all of pfennig's properties have been searched/dug, and nothing found, and he claims he didnt kill louise nor will say where she is, either because he wont say, or actually doesnt know, louise and michael black have not been found, yet we have their abductor/killer, and nothing else ...

 

[JWS2019]

This might be in the wrong spot but I'm seeing a bit of a trend with missing and murdered, January is a bad month.

Just in five minutes looking I've found Eloise Worlege, Louise Bell, Cheryl Grimmer, the Beaumont children and the Wanda Beach girls.

Yep... holidays, parents may or may not be working, creeps off work everyone replaces rules a bit, guards down.

Something someone said to me these creeps are always watching... checking times, seeing cars come and go and for how long. Back in the 80s it wouldn’t be out of the ordinary to leave kids at home for short or long periods of time with little connection other than a land line phone call once a day.

 

[johnymac1]

There is a book being released soon about this evil person Dieter which gives a very in-depth account of his despicable crimes , written by my mate Michael Madigan and i will ask him for the approx. publishing release date and post when confirmed (have read some of the drafted chapters, the little boy who was so close to being another murder victim! Frightening) .....I am sure he has committed further similar crimes , serial killers don't just suddenly become a killer and sexual deviant, their treacherous behavior starts at quite a young age, early teens.....quote from John Douglas, former FBI profiler and author of 'Mind Hunter'.

will keep an eye out for it

 

[johnymac1]

pfennig is covering up for bigger fish, imo, when his dna matched with dna on louise's pj's he tried to claim the culprit was the same guy who did the attack on those backpackers at the coorong a few years back, germanic origins, being the argument, all of pfennig's properties have been searched/dug, and nothing found, and he claims he didnt kill louise nor will say where she is, either because he wont say, or actually doesnt know, louise and michael black have not been found, yet we have their abductor/killer, and nothing else ...

when the third victim escaped from Pfennigs house in hackam. the boys statements didnt mention any other parties. Phennig alone committed these crimes.

 

[Tues]

when the third victim escaped from Pfennigs house in hackam. the boys statements didnt mention any other parties. Phennig alone committed these crimes.

And how lucky was that little kid! Just as he managed to run naked to a neighbour's house Pfennig came driving around the corner. I have always wondered just how many others there are that this scumbag is responsible for.

 

[charlie20]

when the third victim escaped from Pfennigs house in hackam. the boys statements didnt mention any other parties. Phennig alone committed these crimes.
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what date did that take place again?

pre or post michael black?

 

[Tues]

pre or post michael black?

After Michael Black. Michael was abducted and murdered on January 18, 1989 and the little boy who Dieter had tied up naked to a chair in his house was abducted on December 30, 1989 - escaping around midday the following day when Dieter drove to the shops for more ciggies. Dieter and his wife separated in February 1989 and she along with their 2 daughters no longer resided at the house in Hackham West when he held the abducted little boy. There was also a incident in 1983/1984 of him sexually touching a next door neighbours child. Louise Bell was abducted on January 3, 1983.

 

[Angus Young]

After Michael Black. Michael was abducted and murdered on January 18, 1989 and the little boy who Dieter had tied up naked to a chair in his house was abducted on December 30, 1989 - escaping around midday the following day when Dieter drove to the shops for more ciggies. Dieter and his wife separated in February 1989 and she along with their 2 daughters no longer resided at the house in Hackham West when he held the abducted little boy. There was also a incident in 1983/1984 of him sexually touching a next door neighbours child. Louise Bell was abducted on January 3, 1983.

So did he get done for this? never heard of it

 

[Kurve]

So did he get done for this? never heard of it

There's not a lot of detail out there and my server is playing up atm but here's a reference, the child's name will be under suppression. The kid who escaped raised the alarm.

In sentencing, Acting Justice David said Pfennig had abducted and murdered Louise in 1983, abducted and r*ped another child — who survived — in 1989 — and, just months later, abducted and murdered Michael Black, 10.

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EDIT: I just copied and pasted and it looks confusing. The order of the crimes are Louise Bell, Michael Black, 13yo boy abducted name suppressed.

 

[Kurve]

A year later Pfennig abducted a 13-year-old boy from Port Noarlunga South, tied him up, blindfolded, gagged and r*ped him.
The boy, who managed to escape, told authorities which led to Pfennig’s imprisonment, reported ABC.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...e-videos-released-Adelaide-Supreme-Court.html

 

[JWS2019]

So did he get done for this? never heard of it

Yeah me neither.. so are we saying from kurves article that he committed the boys murder after this event? So on bail when this happened? Or am I reading wrong !
Corrected after reading... this happened 12 months after the murder.

 

[johnymac1]

And how lucky was that little kid! Just as he managed to run naked to a neighbour's house Pfennig came driving around the corner. I have always wondered just how many others there are that this scumbag is responsible for.

the boy escaping, not only saved his own life. but he save lives of other potential victims. Pfennig was on track to be a nasty serial killer

 

[charlie20]

dec 30, 1989, explains a bit, the bigger fish i mentioned were not dp's priority by then, michael black was the last of them, so i maintain that prior to the dec 30 victim who escaped dp was down the chain and mostly delivering victims to other parties, by dec 89 he couldve been acting alone

 

[GreyCrow]

dec 30, 1989, explains a bit, the bigger fish i mentioned were not dp's priority by then, michael black was the last of them, so i maintain that prior to the dec 30 victim who escaped dp was down the chain and mostly delivering victims to other parties, by dec 89 he couldve been acting alone

Is it your suggestion that Von Einem and co are tied up in this and DPf was a ''courier'' ?

 

[Tues]

So Louise Bell disappeared in January, 1983. Pfennig has also been convicted of the Michael Black murder in January, 1989. Makes you wonder what this animal was up to in the 6 years in between. I'm no crime expert but I'm thinking these types don't go into hibernation for 6 years.

And what he got up to in the years prior.

 

[Tues]

imo lb and mb have not been found because they are most likely buried on private property, eg a backyard, than in bushland, which is more likely to result in discovery over such a long period of time, dp either doesnt know where their burial location is, or he wont say, but it's not at his place - that is for sure

They could have been weighed down with rocks chained to them and thrown in the river.

 

[johnymac1]

They could have been weighed down with rocks chained to them and thrown in the river.

If you look at all of the big cases, its normally a remote bush site. Take the Truro and Family killings. Most bodies were in or near bushland, only one or two was located in water. Where as the snowtown killings were different again, most bodies were kept on private property.

 

[johnymac1]

And what he got up to in the years prior.

Pfennig was very active no doubt, he has assulted many other victims, including neighbours and school students.

 

[johnymac1]

Is it your suggestion that Von Einem and co are tied up in this and DPf was a ''courier'' ?

ive talked to their neigbours recently, there is no talk of a third party

 

[johnymac1]

I still research this case, mainly researching Pfennig
I have a theory that he visited some gay beats in the south, possibly in contact with Bi and Gay men.

I searched a site called craigs list and found out the meeting places in the south. One place is in walking distance to his Holly drive address. Its on main south road located in a park toilet. In another location I won't divulge, I found children's clothing hidden behind a toilet cistern. This was about four years ago. Indicating to me offenders were still active in the area.

I have a theory regarding the PJ top. Pfennig may have left that item of clothing in such a beat location. Iam not sure if you remember, but there were multiple dna traces found on Louise's clothing. In recent Jail-house banter, Pfennig accuses Roman Heinze of being involved. A possibility that Heinze may have come in contact with the PJ's at a beat location.
Iam just offering up an alternative theory not yet proven by evidence! I seriously doubt Heinze was involved with her murder.

For a while I was looking for a burial site, most people suggest it was in the river. But I was considering the sandhills above the river mouth. I'm pretty sure the location is close to his old residence. Obviously sand, it's easier to dig. As per his jailhouse confession Michael and Louise are in the same location.

I do have a contact that knew the Pfennig's. They have given me an insight to the two households, both Bell and Pfennig.

A link to a video detailing the locations
Credit to Mark Window