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Bulldogs Legend said:
Lets not exaggerate the Clarko stuff. Dont get me wrong I thing Clarko is a genius and clearly the best coach of the last 10 years but Luke has had success everywhere he has gone even before he met Clarko. Amateurs C to B to A in three years is unheard of and then he was at the Pies during there Premiership year and look what happened after he left. In fact the Hawks started on their most recent run of success when he began as back line coach so we may never know who turned Gibson into a champion and it may well have been both Clarko and Luke all I know is that he has turned journeymen like Biggs and Hamling into great players in a very short time.
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Amateurs, come on.
Lots of things Bevo took from the Hawks, but I'm not going to continue because you should be enjoying your time in the sun.
 
pacman said:
Amateurs, come on.
Lots of things Bevo took from the Hawks, but I'm not going to continue because you should be enjoying your time in the sun.
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The fact you dismiss the Amateurs just shows that you really dont understand the Bevo phenomenon. What it demonstrates is that 7 out of the last 10 years he has been involved in premiership teams. He clearly has an understanding of what makes people tick and how to get the best out of them regardles of what level of footy they are playing. Liam Picken being the most obvious example but others such as Biggs, Dickson, Roughead, MBoyd etc.
To be able to get this club to believe in two years from where they were was an effort unmatched in AFL\VFL history, How do you reckon Clarko would have gone had he taken over the Dogs in the position we were?
As I said before I reckon Clarko is the best coach over the last ten years or so but lets not overstate the influence on Bevo and even consider the influnce Bevo had on Clarko (team defence ring any bells with you, who was your backline coach?)
I know its hard for you Hawthorn people to accept you are not at the top of the tree anymore but you have your memories to console you stop trying to steal other peoples glory!
 

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Bulldogs Legend said:
The fact you dismiss the Amateurs just shows that you really dont understand the Bevo phenomenon. What it demonstrates is that 7 out of the last 10 years he has been involved in premiership teams. He clearly has an understanding of what makes people tick and how to get the best out of them regardles of what level of footy they are playing. Liam Picken being the most obvious example but others such as Biggs, Dickson, Roughead, MBoyd etc.
To be able to get this club to believe in two years from where they were was an effort unmatched in AFL\VFL history, How do you reckon Clarko would have gone had he taken over the Dogs in the position we were?
As I said before I reckon Clarko is the best coach over the last ten years or so but lets not overstate the influence on Bevo and even consider the influnce Bevo had on Clarko (team defence ring any bells with you, who was your backline coach?)
I know its hard for you Hawthorn people to accept you are not at the top of the tree anymore but you have your memories to console you stop trying to steal other peoples glory!
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Not trying to steal anything.
When Bevo has 4 premierships and six of his assistants Coaching at the top level I'll sit up and take notice.
Until then congrats but don't get ahead of yourself.
By the way I have plenty of memories and victory DVD's since I've seen 11 Premierships.
 
pacman said:
Not trying to steal anything.
When Bevo has 4 premierships and six of his assistants Coaching at the top level I'll sit up and take notice.
Until then congrats but don't get ahead of yourself.
By the way I have plenty of memories and victory DVD's since I've seen 11 Premierships.
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Nah I am going to get ahead of myself I have years of suffering to make up for and nothing i say makes a crap of difference to how my team goes!
Bevo would be doing just fine Clarko or no, remember contested ball is not important LOL!!!
 
Dfragg said:
He is honestly a terrible coach. At this point people need to learn not to give coaches too much credit for good quality football. The Bulldogs good form this year has been on the back of good recruiting, especially through the draft; they didn't need Beveridge for recruiting guys like Bontempelli and Macrae.

The evidence for his bad coaching is in his neglect for ruckmen. It was abundantly obvious there was a huge issue last week with English struggling against Draper and Essendon scoring 10 goals from centre clearances. How does the coach respond? By continuing to play English one-out against two experienced, far better ruckmen in Ceglar and McEvoy, and its going to cost him in a win.

I recall him last year saying in a post match presser that it didn't matter who they played in the ruck, and that they were going to get beaten anyway. He said this as a way of rationalising Dunkley in the ruck, who coincidentally was in really poor form that year after a career best year in 2019.

Beveridge will not be winning another flag, that I'm certain of. His philosophy is horribly outdated.
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This is honestly a reactionary, shithouse post. Basically Bevo is a bad coach because he didn't play Jordan Sweet 😂
 
He doesn't respect rucks, it has been true from the start when he played Ayce Cordy and relied on third man up. I don't think he's recovered from that terrible day when AFL house told him "No more third man Luke, no more man."

We don't have a good ruck on our list though which is the fault of list management. A player like Hickey would make a world of difference. Though Luke would probably play him in the 2s or at full back.
 
Dfragg said:
Reactionary? Were you too dense to realise the whole ruck thing has been an issue since he became coach and immediately dropped Will Minson? I don't even support the Bulldogs and know this, which says a lot about your football knowledge.
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You're obviously an expert. Your whole point is Bevo bad because of ruckmen, everything good is the recruiters fault. No mention he pushed for us to get Stef Martin, who is injured. No seeming awareness that Will Minson was toast after a debilitating back injury in 2014.

Has Bevo made mistakes?? Obviously, like every other coach in the history of sport. Is he a terrible coach like you said?? Of course not, that's completely ridiculous. Calling him a terrible coach is more a reflection on you than it is Beveridge. You could have made a reasonable point about his use of ruckman, but you shit the bed in your first sentence
 
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bresker said:
He doesn't respect rucks, it has been true from the start when he played Ayce Cordy and relied on third man up. I don't think he's recovered from that terrible day when AFL house told him "No more third man Luke, no more man."

We don't have a good ruck on our list though which is the fault of list management. A player like Hickey would make a world of difference. Though Luke would probably play him in the 2s or at full back.
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Ladhams from Port would be perfect for the Dogs imo
 
bresker said:
He doesn't respect rucks, it has been true from the start when he played Ayce Cordy and relied on third man up. I don't think he's recovered from that terrible day when AFL house told him "No more third man Luke, no more man."

We don't have a good ruck on our list though which is the fault of list management. A player like Hickey would make a world of difference. Though Luke would probably play him in the 2s or at full back.
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Huh? Martin is a decent ruck, just been injured.
 
Bevo will probably give Bont and Macrae coaches votes again this week after they combined for 250 supercoach points and their team kicked just 5 goals 7 behinds

He is good at pumping up his team's superstars for all the individual awards

He's a bit like Chris Scott in that respect.
 

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Dfragg said:
Because back in those days midfielders could jump as the third man up, which the dogs relied on heavily. Even if they weren't winning the ruck battle, if you have 2-3 guys jumping for every ball up and throw in, it's hard for the opposition ruckman to exert any influence.

Since that rule change, it's become incredibly important to have at least one competitive, physical ruck in your team. In 2020, Beveridge spent the entire year playing English as the sole ruckman while the stronger, more experienced Trengove rotted in the reserves, and sure enough, the doggies conceded a heap of goals directly from stoppages all year.
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If you actually saw Trengove play in his last 2 years with us, you'd understand why he wasn't selected and why nobody wanted him this year. I do agree that we should have focused on acquiring better ruckman but playing Trengove was not the answer to our ruck issues
 
cherrypie said:
If you actually saw Trengove play in his last 2 years with us, you'd understand why he wasn't selected and why nobody wanted him this year. I do agree that we should have focused on acquiring better ruckman but playing Trengove was not the answer to our ruck issues
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What the hell are you talking about?
Trengove played pretty much all year in 2019 until the coach arbitrarily dropped him after a smashing win against GWS. English was out with glandular fever, so Trengove was pulled out of defence (where he was solid all year) and into the ruck, where he did a fairly solid job. Then when English returned, instead of moving Trengove back to defence, the coach dropped him, kept Young there, and an out of form Taylor Walker proceeded to kick 4-5 goals against us in Ballarat.

Trengove was only given one game in 2020, even as English was struggling badly all year. The moron coach even played Dunkley playing #1 ruck in some games, such was his disdain for playing a physical ruckman.

Trengove might not have been the greatest ruckman ever, but at the very least he provides a physical contest. There's no way a kid like Sam Draper would be able to completely dictate the flow of the ball against Trengove.
 
Rod Stroker said:
LOL! Second on the ladder and well positioned for a second flag in 5 years, and their supporters want him gone.

You mob are a fickle lot.
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Which he gets far too much credit for, the same way George Lucas gets far too much credit for the original Star Wars movies when he clearly didn't understand what made them good.

Simple minds like you will always have the most simple outlook.
 
Emacss said:
Which he gets far too much credit for, the same way George Lucas gets far too much credit for the original Star Wars movies when he clearly didn't understand what made them good.

Simple minds like you will always have the most simple outlook.
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So who is largely responsible for guiding the team to second on the ladder? the boot studder? the orange peeler? the ankle taper?

Please MENSA member, enlighten us simpletons.
 
Bevo makes baffling selection decisions week to week. This is the 3rd or 4th year in a row he has no idea what our best 22/structure looks like.
 

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