Conspiracy Theory Mandates, Lockdowns, Covid-19, SARS-Cov-2 Thread - Get vaccinated.

[Chief]

You've lumped them all together under the umbrella as ''vaccines'' and therefore not to be questioned.

Moronic, but here we are.

Well, you can throw in the ad homs. I don't like your chances of staying in this thread, though.

You can discern the difference between "vaccines work" and "some vaccines work in different ways for different people".

 

[M Malice]

So? You have a mind of your own.

I am part of the matrix just like you.

 

[Chief]

Moderna. Pfizer are both equally recommended? I get my choice for example and no clear definition exists which difers the 2

Why do you say that? I'm not a doctor and don't know the current recommendation.

I was recommended against AZ because of my age and medical history. I got Pfizer.

That's a differentiation between two vaccines.

 

[zill]

Look at vaccination drives in Africa being hampered by Catholic bishops spewing conspiracy sh*t. Someone wants to complain it takes so long, they have to accept that anti-vaxxers delayed full vaccination and eradication.

The biggest impediment to vaccines in Africa and other poor countries has been people like bill gates. He went out of his way to ensure that Oxford didn't make their formula public information. India and South Africa even went to the WTO to try to get a patent waiver so that vaccines could be manufactured in their country. Of course this was knocked back. There is no need to put the blame on conspiracy theories, the vast majority of people there simply can't afford a european manufactured vaccine.

 

[Chief]

The biggest impediment to vaccines in Africa and other poor countries has been people like bill gates. He went out of his way to ensure that Oxford didn't make their formula public information.

I don't know anything about the complexities of the AZ IP. I don't have an opinion on that aspect.

 

[Trav 20]

You can discern the difference between "vaccines work" and "some vaccines work in different ways for different people".

Smallpox and MMR vaccines are nothing like these gene therapy treatments, but criticisms are equally off-limits according to you.

All under the single umbrella of ''vaccines''. It's nonsense.

 

[zill]

I don't know anything about the complexities of the AZ IP. I don't have an opinion on that aspect.

Oxford were all set to make it public domain, but the bill gates foundation stepped in and made sure they had an exclusive agreement with AZ. This isn't a conspiracy theory, you can easily google it.

 

[Chief]

Again, I haven't read anything on it that I can recall.

 

[Chief]

Smallpox and MMR vaccines are nothing like these gene therapy treatments, but criticisms are equally off-limits according to you.

All under the single umbrella of ''vaccines''. It's nonsense.

If you are here to say "vaccines don't work, don't take them" then you are not welcome.

Simple as that.

This board is no longer a transmission channel for that message.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Why do you say that? I'm not a doctor and don't know the current recommendation.

I was recommended against AZ because of my age and medical history. I got Pfizer.

That's a differentiation between two vaccines.

Difference between AZ and Pfizer goes without saying

Im saying the differene between Moderna, Pfizer and J&J. Im yet to see anyone differentiate or explain one over the other

 

[Malifice]

I thought it was common knowledge and surprising that Africa was coping amongst the best of the nation as far covid went.

You think they're reporting anywhere near the correct numbers of infections and deaths? Have you been to Africa?

Brazzaville, 14 October 2021 – A new assessment by the World Health Organization (WHO) shows that only 14.2% – or one in seven – COVID-19 infections are being detected in Africa.

To date, COVID-19 detection in Africa has focused on people reporting to health facilities with symptoms, in addition to testing arriving and departing international travellers, leading to large-scale under-reporting given the high percentage of asymptomatic cases on the continent.

Since the start of the pandemic and as of 10 October, more than 70 million COVID-19 tests have been reported by African countries, which is a fraction of the continent’s 1.3 billion people. By contrast, the United States, with about a third of the population, has reportedly administered over 550 million tests, while the United Kingdom, with less than 10% of the population of Africa, has administered over 280 million tests.

Six in seven COVID-19 infections go undetected in Africa | WHO | Regional Office for Africa

For comparison:

The UK has administered 280 million tests, from 70 million people, and detected 10 million cases.

All of Africa (combined) have administered 70 million tests, from 1.3 billion people, and has detected 59 million cases.

So Africa, despite administering only a quarter as many tests, from a population 20 times greater, has uncovered 6 times more cases.

Think about those figures for a bit, and what they heavily imply.

 

[zill]

Again, I haven't read anything on it that I can recall.

But yet you go off on tangents about catholic priests spreading anti-vax conspiracy theories. Perhaps before you go around deleting whole threads you should seek to be better informed, the forum would be better off for it.

 

[Hawk Dork]

I haven't checked the death rates coming from Africa re covid, but I wouldn't be surprised if more die from starvation, malaria, dysentery and by militia.

Lets save that discussion for the starvation, malaria, dysentery and by militia thread ....

 

[Chief]

But yet you go off on tangents about catholic priests spreading anti-vax conspiracy theories.

This happened, though. It wasn't a tangent. My post was a part of the response to "smallpox took 100 years to eradicate" or whatever it was.

Read the thread.

 

[backtozero]

You think they're reporting anywhere near the correct numbers of infections and deaths? Have you been to Africa?



Six in seven COVID-19 infections go undetected in Africa | WHO | Regional Office for Africa

For comparison:

The UK has administered 280 million tests, from 70 million people, and detected 10 million cases.

All of Africa (combined) have administered 70 million tests, from 1.3 billion people, and has detected 59 million cases.

So Africa, despite administering only a quarter as many tests, from a population 20 times greater, has uncovered 6 times more cases.

Think about those figures for a bit, and what they heavily imply.

How many deaths comparatively to the rest of the world?

 

[Chief]

mRNA vaccines dont work

Goodbye.

https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2021/10/covid-19-vaccination-information-on-comirnaty-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine.pdf

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Ill also say if I had to take the vaccine by gunpoint, id take AstraZeneca every day of the week and twice on THursday

Its clearly the supeior option.

Its a shame the media misrepresented the risk and forced the inferior option onto the people

Its clear by the EU vs UK numbers which ones working better

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Goodbye.

Huh?

You didnt take it either though?

If you think it works, why not take it instead of AZ?

 

[zill]

The UK has administered 280 million tests, from 70 million people, and detected 10 million cases.

All of Africa (combined) have administered 70 million tests, from 1.3 billion people, and has detected 59 million cases.

So Africa, despite administering only a quarter as many tests, from a population 20 times greater, has uncovered 6 times more cases.

Think about those figures for a bit, and what they heavily imply.

All that implies is that Africa was only testing people who were sick.

 

[Chief]

GoEaglesGoSGIO - mRNA vaccines work:

https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2021/10/covid-19-vaccination-information-on-comirnaty-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine.pdf

 

[Malifice]

How many deaths comparatively to the rest of the world?

Seeing as they're underreporting case numbers by several orders of magnitude, at least on par with the rest of the world, if not considerably worse seeing as most of them are unvaccinated.

Unless there is something magical in the water over there I'm unaware of.

 

[Chief]

Huh?

You didnt take it either though?

If you think it works, why not take it instead of AZ?

I took Pfizer.

An mRNA vaccine.

I said so earlier.

 

[Trav 20]

If you are here to say "vaccines don't work, don't take them" then you are not welcome.

Simple as that.

This board is no longer a transmission channel for that message.

Some vaccines have high efficacy and others don't. Coronavirus vaccines have never been greatly successful and some are known to be ''leaky'', which means they don't stop transmission or infection. They do help with the severity of the disease and help prevent death.

Most gripes don't centre around whether they help lessen disease/death, they centre around the lack of safety data, lack of rigourous testing, and concerns around mandates.

One should be able to balance risk v reward without totalitarian coercion.

I also wonder whether sane people will start wondering why positive cases increase the more vaccinations rise. This happens everywhere.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

GoEaglesGoSGIO - mRNA vaccines work:

https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2021/10/covid-19-vaccination-information-on-comirnaty-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine.pdf

So lets get this right as you are moving off topic a bit

PFizer works just as well as AstraZenecca? What makes you think this? What data comparison shows this?

 

[William Wonka]

Re small pox

The risk of death after contracting the disease was about 30%, with higher rates among babies.[6][12]Often those who survived had extensive scarring of their skin, and some were left blind.[6]

Now do polio.
A mild bug for 99.5% of those that caught it.