Conspiracy Theory Mandates, Lockdowns, Covid-19, SARS-Cov-2 Thread - Get vaccinated.

About Covid vaccines only: your opinion on mandates?


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“Critically ill Covid patients are dying unnecessarily because they are refusing to go on ventilators due to unfounded fears that the machines increase the risk of death.”

But stay at home. It will free up the ventilators.
I’m not sure I’d classify a death rate over over 80% as “unfounded”, but each to their own
 
It's common knowledge that anti vaxxers claim the covid vaccines make permanent DNA changes . That bad information filtered into Aboriginal communities, frightening them off the jab.
It wouldn’t have anything to do with the fact that Aborigines were experimented on with drugs last century which resulted in a lot of deaths?
 

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wow - this logic is so warped.
Ventilators are the last resort for the gravely ill. They are on deaths door, and would die sooner if not put on a Ventilator.
By your twisted logic - Given 100% of death in hospitals occur in people lying down, maybe we should take people out of beds and place them upright.
Standing room only would certainly increase our capacity.
 
Got a link to your stats and information? I can’t find what your posting anywhere.
He is no more, for he spake unto us the denialist bullshit.
 
Which ones? Where are you getting this from?
Vaccines with ADE have been linked to flu shots dating back to RSV in the 1960s.

''In the late 1960s, children in Washington, DC received an RSV vaccine in which the virus was inactivated with formalin. Eighty percent of the children given the shot were hospitalized with severe respiratory disease, and two died.''

It's a scientists major concern. That is, until experimental gene therapies came along...

''Leaky'' vaccines have also been common and problematic.

Flu shots have a supposed ''reduced risk'' of 40-60%, which seems like guesswork, but maybe you think that's good. Most people don't, which is why there's been a pitiful uptake. It's like looking in the rear view mirror because next year's strain is different and the vaccine, which was prepared for the previous strain is redundant.
 
I think I can see why William Wonka is excited about the bill passing through?


So sex workers no longer have to undergo STD testing, and they can also continue work if they have an STD. California recently passed a bill where if you knowingly pass HIV onto another person it is now just a misdemeanour. Yet if you don't have a vaccine you can't go to kmart, not that you have covid, just haven't been vaccinated against it.
 
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Flu shots have a supposed ''reduced risk'' of 40-60%, which seems like guesswork, but maybe you think that's good. Most people don't, which is why there's been a pitiful uptake. It's like looking in the rear view mirror because next year's strain is different and the vaccine, which was prepared for the previous strain is redundant.
I thought the flu vax was straight up guesswork, an "educated guess" on which strains will be dominant for the coming year.
 
So sex workers no longer have to undergo STD testing, and they can also continue work if they have an STD. California recently passed a bill where if you knowingly pass HIV onto another person it is now just a misdemeanour. Yet if you don't have a vaccine you can't go to kmart, not that you have covid, just haven't been vaccinated against it.
I posted the video on the Dan Andrews thread, and the idiots there focus on a subtle jibe I made about them when bringing up Novak Djokovic. But they avoid the point made in the rest of the post.
 
''Leaky'' vaccines have also been common and problematic.
“don't stop transmission or infection”

Which vaccines have zero chance of stopping transmission or infection?
 

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Flu shots have a supposed ''reduced risk'' of 40-60%, which seems like guesswork,
You think they are just guessing?

Flu shot effectiveness varies from year to year. There have been bad years where it was 10% and good years where it was 60%.

I don’t know specifically how they come up with that estimate.

Have you ever looked it up?
 
You think this censorship and the drivel you post has changed a single person’s mind?
That’s what’s frustrating. It’s hard to get people out of this denial. You have to rely on facts and evidence, but the sharks just lie and play emotional tricks.

You have to stop people going in. Ounce of prevention, pound of cure.
 
You think they are just guessing?

Flu shot effectiveness varies from year to year. There have been bad years where it was 10% and good years where it was 60%.

I don’t know specifically how they come up with that estimate.

Have you ever looked it up?
No. Don't care.

Just quoting scientific literature. Either way 10-60% is rubbish when it comes to immunisation. But make sure you get yours...

Everything I post is quoted from scientific journals.
 
That’s what’s frustrating. It’s hard to get people out of this denial. You have to rely on facts and evidence, but the sharks just lie and play emotional tricks.

You have to stop people going in. Ounce of prevention, pound of cure.
I suggest what your are doing is having the opposite effect. 👍

People will just dig their heels in out of spite.

Back off and they might come to a different conclusion when they aren’t being told what they can’t think and say.

Your actions will only create more anti-vaxx sentiment and is dangerous for public health
 
I suggest what your are doing is having the opposite effect. 👍

People will just dig their heels in out of spite.
I’m sure some will. They are lost for now, but hopefully time will work on them.
''Leaky'' ones.
They have not a single chance of stopping transmission? And which are these?
 
It's common knowledge that anti vaxxers claim the covid vaccines make permanent DNA changes . That bad information filtered into Aboriginal communities, frightening them off the jab.
McGowan was saying this earlier tonight. Which got me thinking. Why would Aboriginals be more susceptible to misinformation than anyone else?
 
I’m sure some will. They are lost for now, but hopefully time will work on them.

They have not a single chance of stopping transmission? And which are these?
‘Leaky’ Vaccines Can Produce Stronger Versions of Viruses
 

“Our research demonstrates that the use of leaky vaccines can promote the evolution of nastier ‘hot’ viral strains that put unvaccinated individuals at greater risk,” Nair said.

Marek’s disease used to be a minor ailment that did little harm to chickens in the 1950s, but the virus has grown stronger and today is capable of killing all the unvaccinated birds in poultry flocks, sometimes within 10 days.

But since nearly every chicken in agricultural production throughout the world is vaccinated, Marek’s is a relatively minor problem today.”

So you’ve got a chicken virus and vaccine that leads researchers to believe that these vaccines can (possibly) still leave the door open to mutation.

But all chickens are vaccinated so it’s a minor problem.

So this to me says - vaccinate everyone, keep unvaccinated people away from the vaccinated, and develop other treatment and prevention techniques.

Like we’re doing.

So? What? How is this “the vaccine doesn’t stop transmission”?
 

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