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Manuka Oval Upgrade
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- Apr 12, 2012
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Actually thought Bombers and I hadnt shrank to that level yet.
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No doubt the 500 petitioners were the elitist political class, not the riff raff sporty types. Hopefully the Canberrans don't accept this setback.
http://www.austadiums.com/stadiums/stadiums.php?id=65
Geez that's annoying.
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If it had been Victoira or SA theyd slap a major projects badge on it, and the protestors could go to hell.
I'm not convinced a rail link is needed. Would never use it. However the stalled redevelopment of Manuka is needed and infuriates me likewise that a small group of residents has prevented it. Just silly.
Its not a setback. From memory, handing development of an entire locality to one developer with a monopoly on possibly Canberra's wealthiest area was part of the proposal. Any government doing that would have been bloody stupid.
And the hotel, etc, were very much out of character with what is a fairly low-rise area. The oval needs an upgrade, especially spectator facilities (viewing is fine, queueing is bad) and parking. But the proposal was tied to too much other stuff, although I never saw detail of the downgraded version.
it also got questioned when the company had various tie-ins with ministers and staffers, which made it a harder sell.
So what is the alternative, do nothing ?? Wont do anthing for the queueing!
But they did build a new railway which was a great idea for reagional Victorians until the previous government completely cocked up the flyovers to save some money...only to cost us even more in wheel replacements and lost productivity.
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A train to the airport would just end up a total rort like it is in Sydney.
Better off putting your uber clicker as close as you can to the airport, then asking them to drive up to the airport to pick you up. Most will do it and to the CBD it's a good $35 drive.
That or use the Skybus, which Victorians seem allergic to.
The ACT govt master plan to my knowledge has a larger capacity upgrade than Grocon/GWS were proposing.
I don't think the alternative was ever nothing and I'm not convinced that the rejection of an initial unsolicited proposal asking for huge concessions means Grocon/GWS just walks away.
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Really? Thought the government upgrade was tiny by comparison
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No he's right, the GWS plan showed little respect to the potential Canberra has to offer.
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Interesting. In what way?
The plans i noticed were great.
The government one was much smaller and used public funding.
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You can be sure that any plan will be resisted by the wealthy cabal of well connected residents. Nothing of note will happen in Manuka.
I went to a geelong game there this year- lines lines lines
didn't get in until 10mins into first qtr, line around the block to get in the gate
spent entire 2nd qtr in line for beer and pies, got to the counter as half time siren sounded and they were out of pies, pouring one beer at a time
left during third qtr and went to the pub because the line for the pissa was out of sight
might go back for the cricket but doubt it, apart from being picturesque it was worse than subiaco- on par with blacktown/
didn't get in until 10mins into first qtr, line around the block to get in the gate
spent entire 2nd qtr in line for beer and pies, got to the counter as half time siren sounded and they were out of pies, pouring one beer at a time
left during third qtr and went to the pub because the line for the pissa was out of sight
might go back for the cricket but doubt it, apart from being picturesque it was worse than subiaco- on par with blacktown/
Nearly all of the Grocon proposal was for the commercial developments on public land.
The existing Manuka Oval plan takes us to 20000 people by the end of stage 3.
The Grocon proposal was pretty vague on actual capacity increase, as it mostly focused on replacing existing temporary seats and standing areas and adding more cover. But David Shepherd said that "it's better to be sold out than half empty" in this article which also says the capacity would stay about 15000.
So yeah to my eye they're not even proposing to carry out the degree of capacity expansion the government has planned. Just giving the existing capacity better seating.
If they go another round, hopefully they focus more on plans for growing the actual stadium instead of how great their profit-making assets outside it will be. After all, it's capacity that's going to get this city more cricket and maybe eventually an AFL team of our own.
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I'm holding out hope they bring us in with Tassie as a 20th team. Won't be in the next decade but with a regional population nearly as large as Gold Coast, the highest incomes in the country, an economy larger than Tasmania's and a Territory government always willing to provide direct cash and concessional land grants to elite sport... we're the next most logical place for a team after Tasmania.
20 teams actually starts to even the fixture out again - only three double-ups is less of a distortion than 5 is (and actually 7 was probably better than 5 too).
20 teams actually starts to even the fixture out again - only three double-ups is less of a distortion than 5 is (and actually 7 was probably better than 5 too).
Yeah, only way I can see it as well. Reckon Tassie and WA3 will be most likely to join in by about 2030-ish. Hopefully by then the talent pool is a bit bigger otherwise I think we won't see this expansion until 2040 but knowing the AFL they'd do it sooner rather then waiting for an appropriate time.
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If Canberra were to get an AFL team they need a indoor stadium, Canberra is freezing, many games would be affected by weather, which affects the crowd.
Therefore IMO they will never get a team as a indoor stadium will never eventuate.
Manuka is a lovely ground and they will always get a couple of games a year, which makes sense as there is a fair amount of support for the game but to go that extra few steps is beyond Canberra.
Therefore IMO they will never get a team as a indoor stadium will never eventuate.
Manuka is a lovely ground and they will always get a couple of games a year, which makes sense as there is a fair amount of support for the game but to go that extra few steps is beyond Canberra.
Or, you know, just wear a decent jacket like they do in Geelong.
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Canberra can get and does regularly get colder than Geeeeelong.
Wind off the Brindies could knock an elephant over, huge affect on crowds.
Freezing beyond freezing.
