Marijuana

[Oakland Raider]

Go for it then. Sit on your couch every night and smoke till your eyes bleed. See how your life turns out.

There has been some moronic posts in this thread. This one might be the most.

Why would anyone do something so idiotic?

Go drink beer until you piss your pants

 

[Oakland Raider]

Try telling that to these productive, successful people. Just a fraction of what you too can do with or without cheerios.

http://coedmagazine.com/2009/02/06/...theads-on-the-planet-cool-enough-to-admit-it/

Puts the argument to bed really. Richard Branson for example. Green with envy they are

 

[BigBadCam]

There has been some moronic posts in this thread. This one might be the most.

Why would anyone do something so idiotic?

Go drink beer until you piss your pants

Sarcasm alert.

 

[Sportman1987]

Excuse me
How ?

Wasn't he trying to argue that there is no link between habitual marijuana smoking and psychosis. Sorry, that is nonsense and anyone who believes that has already had their brain cells ruined.

Bullshit mate, are you trolling me? That was the one point I agreed with you on. I know it can cause at the very least temporary psychosis since I've had it myself. Here, I'll do the work for you:

Doctors: Marijuana triggers psychosis

New findings on marijuana's damaging effect on the brain show the drug triggers temporary psychotic symptoms in some people, including hallucinations and paranoid delusions, doctors say.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/01/health/main2746434.shtml

Which is exactly what I've been saying all along. Key word being "SOME". Just because some people respond poorly to it is no kind of argument for making it illegal! From what I can see it comes down to you wanting a nanny state to protect your kids at the expense of the rest of adult society.

Or that there is no link between habitual marijuana use and suicide. Sorry, nonsense again.

You keep saying it's nonsense. Back it up.

Now of course some of you idiots are going to interpret that as meaning that ALL habitual marijuana users will suffer from the above. That is obviously not true.

However there is an increased likelihood of pyschosis/suicide occuring in a habitual marijuana smoker than a non marijuana smoker. Again, anyone who tries to argue otherwise is an idiot.

Again, back it up. And even if you do. The effect marijuana has on SOME users is not a strong argument for making it illegal.

I really can't be bothered with this thread any more. Myself and BBC have seen it all before first hand with marijuana and if you won't listen to some wisdom then nobody can help you.

Its a really stupid habit that gets you nowhere in life. In actual fact you go backwards. But hey, do what you want to do. Not my problem.

In my opinion, it is a stupid habit. Because of the way my body is wired, it's probably one of the most dangerous soft drugs I could touch. So I steer clear. Assuming that just because that's been my experience with it, it's true across (or "almost") across the board is arrogance to the extreme & that (as well as your positive views on prohibition) is what I'm arguing against.

 

[sherrinorburley]

Puts the argument to bed really. Richard Branson for example. Green with envy they are

The plant that is closest to the makeup of the human body when grown in a natural environment. Hard to get these days but possible. Phelps and any others on that list who have access to quality (no hydro crap).

 

[Oakland Raider]

Cali sorb. Or Hawaii.

 

[Oakland Raider]

The Virgin boss needs to be investigated more.

Sir Richard Branson
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While the ‘Sir’ in front of this guy’s name puts him in some very elite company, it doesn’t automatically get him on this list.

What does earn him a spot is the fact that he’s the 236th richest person in the world, founder of the Virgin empire, which encompasses everything from airlines to record stores to cell phones, and made his entire multi-billion dollar fortune from absolutely nothing.

Not only does this man smoke weed, he gets high with his 21-year-old son. He has publicly stated that there’s nothing wrong with smoking pot, has petitioned for the legalization of pot, and even said that if it were legal, he’d sell it.

 

[CrazyQ]

Richard Branson is great.

 

[estibador]

Latecomer to this thread so I've only just read the brilliant post from BBC. Shame he's spat the dummy and quit bigfooty (albeit probably temporarily) because although he could be a knob at times (like all of us on here) he did contribute some interesting shit, especially on the non footy boards.

My girlfriend at this stage of my life was a perfect 10, but pot put a stop to that. I`d be out all the time getting stoned, and she`d ring me asking where I was and what I was doing. I`d feel like I was being interogated and try to hide what I was doing due to my shame. I`d always be nowhere and doing nothing. I think she thought I was off seeing other girls or something, but she couldn`t have been more wrong. Eventually I told her that I didn`t want to be with her anymore, she started crying and that`s the last thing we said to each other for about five years. I knew things weren`t right when I`d gone and chosen smoking pot with my friends over one of the most amazing women on this planet.

This part especially spoke to me. When I was at uni I lost the most amazing girlfriend I've had to date thanks to some bad weed related decisions.

We'd been together for over a year and when the time came that I had to choose between moving in with her or with some of my stoner mates I chose the latter because she didn't want me smoking inside the house. I was a hardcore stoner at the time - buckets for breakfast, lunch, dinner and bedtime sort of thing - and the thought of not being able to smoke in my own loungeroom horrified me. Ironically now if I was to light up a bong there's no way I'd do it inside.

Things deteriorated rapidly for us after that and it was only after we broke up that I found out from her friends how much my choice not to move in with her had hurt her. It's something I've always regretted.

But I don't blame the weed. I had a big drug taking circle of mates at the time and our golden rule was that blaming drugs for anything we did was a cop out. It's something I still believe to this day. Any mistakes I made in the past where the result of my own lack of self discipline and allowing myself to become a full time stoner was a symptom of that, not the cause.

Hell, I don't smoke much anymore but I probably drink too much... doesn't mean I'm going to start blaming alcohol for that. Like most substances it's a self control issue rather than the substance itself being inherently evil.

 

[Mofra]

Hell, I don't smoke much anymore but I probably drink too much... doesn't mean I'm going to start blaming alcohol for that. Like most substances it's a self control issue rather than the substance itself being inherently evil.

Good contribution. It's worth noting that almost all negative experiences with pot are due to heavy (or at least regular) usage. Morgan Spurlock has shown anything in heavy usage that has "mild" health risks can threaton quality of life & health.

I don't believe the occasional smoker (few times a year) need worry.

 

[sherrinorburley]

I credit all my good fortune, positivity and introduction to ganja (no hydro) and vaporizer tings to my long time wife. I LOVE her for it.

 

[Wally Carter]

Good contribution. It's worth noting that almost all negative experiences with pot are due to heavy (or at least regular) usage. Morgan Spurlock has shown anything in heavy usage that has "mild" health risks can threaton quality of life & health.

I don't believe the occasional smoker (few times a year) need worry.

Just eat the stuff.

No waste, and it goes further that way.


*However, if you feel you have a predisposition to Marijuana induced psychosis, stop using this drug immediately and get help.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

I'm pretty sure the OP (who said in July how he loves the stuff) is the same dude who was contemplating suicide in another thread that was started in about late November.

Just sayin'.

 

[Wally Carter]

Good pick up Funkster, I had better adjust my post.

 

[fairdinkum]

I'm pretty sure the OP (who said in July how he loves the stuff) is the same dude who was contemplating suicide in another thread that was started in about late November.

Just sayin'.

Yeah, I noticed that the same guy who started the 'contemplating suicide' thread is also a West Coast supporter. Naturally I have contacted all of my friends who follow West Coast to make sure that it has not had a similar effect on them.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

I've never really read up on it, but Ive seen some friends caught up and pulled down by it, and others who could give it up at their choosing.

Doesnt seem to be anything intrinsically wrong with the drug, and is largely dependent on individual psychiatric health. Certainly less damaging than tobacco in most circumstances.

Although Wally, is this dichotomy between marijuana and tobacco a false one? Isnt most marijuana consumed in joints where probably 60% is tobacco anyway?

 

[estibador]

Yeah, I noticed that the same guy who started the 'contemplating suicide' thread is also a West Coast supporter. Naturally I have contacted all of my friends who follow West Coast to make sure that it has not had a similar effect on them.

No such luck I take it?

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Yeah, I noticed that the same guy who started the 'contemplating suicide' thread is also a West Coast supporter. Naturally I have contacted all of my friends who follow West Coast to make sure that it has not had a similar effect on them.

You've picked a bad team to make a pro-legalisation argument.

I wasnt claiming everyone who smokes turns out suicidal.

Just that those prone to mental illness will probably have their problems exacerbated, and some others will have dormant mental illness awakened by prolonged use of this stuff.

Not everybody. Not even a majority. Just enough to warrant some more investigation.

 

[Wally Carter]

Although Wally, is this dichotomy between marijuana and tobacco a false one? Isnt most marijuana consumed in joints where probably 60% is tobacco anyway?

In my experience the overwhelming majority of pot smokers add tobacco to their Marijuana prior to smoking and I do actually remember reading that the burnt by-products of pot where more dangerous than tobacco.

Just eat the stuff and avoid all the tobacco/smoke issues. It goes twice as far that way.

Lungs are made for air.

 

[fairdinkum]

Just eat the stuff and avoid all the tobacco/smoke issues. It goes twice as far that way.

I read/heard somewhere that the opposite is true -- that is, it takes roughly twice as much marijuana to get similar effects when cooked as opposed to smoked.

 

[Wally Carter]

I read/heard somewhere that the opposite is true -- that is, it takes roughly twice as much marijuana to get similar effects when cooked as opposed to smoked.

I can honestly verify that is complete bullshit.

Eaten pot takes a little longer to come on, but it lingers longer and is far more potent per amount used when compared with the same amount smoked.

 

[fairdinkum]

I can honestly verify that is complete bullshit.

Eaten pot takes a little longer to come on, but it lingers longer and is far more potent per amount used when compared with the same amount smoked.

How do you go about cooking it, may I ask?

I think the testimonies I read about it being less effective per unit were related to canabutter.

 

[patsmith]

How do you go about cooking it, may I ask?

I think the testimonies I read about it being less effective per unit were related to canabutter.

Making butter is the only practical way of doing it. THC dissolves in fat (ie. butter) and that fat is then used in cooking.

You don't need more, in fact you can use your chaff (leaf, stems etc) that would otherwise be wasted as you can't really smoke it. It leaves you with a longer-lasting high that is usually described as being 'body-stoned'. It's just great.

 

[RobV]

Making butter is the only practical way of doing it. THC dissolves in fat (ie. butter) and that fat is then used in cooking.

You don't need more, in fact you can use your chaff (leaf, stems etc) that would otherwise be wasted as you can't really smoke it. It leaves you with a longer-lasting high that is usually described as being 'body-stoned'. It's just great.

How about oil? that is easier to make than butter and you can make smaller batches too, another good way is to make make a pizza(mostly cheese) then cook it for 20mins, add weed to the top of the pizza and another layer of cheese then cook it on low for another 10mins.

You can also make firecrackers which is basically a cracker biscuit + peanut butter with weed sprinkled on it zapped in a microwave.

All weed needs is a fatty substance to be melted into, thats why butter, oil, cheese, peanut butter, nutella, etc will do.

Also the general rule is half as much for twice as long.

OIL

INSTRUCTIONS:

1. Take the bottle of canola oil and poor the whole bottle into the pot.

2. The the stove on and put it on medium, place the pot on the stove and keep it on there till it is hot, DO NOT LET BOIL.

3. Now take the marijuana / shake crumble it up into small bits, put all this into your pot.

4. Now every ten minutes or so stir the pot for the next two hours, the trick is not to let it boil over just to keep it hot. If it starts to boil just lift the pot up and let it cool down a bit & turn your heat down a bit. Once or twice of this you will find the exact heat.

If you let it boil over the oil will turn black and it will taste like crap
just keep stirring and you will be fine.

5. Keep doing this for about two hours, after a bit the oil might turn a little bit green and brown. This is all normal, and means that the resin extraction is working properly.

6. After two hours take the pot off the burner and let it cool for about thirty minutes. Then take the pot and pour the oil throught that metal strainer, do this a couple times to make sure no leaf bits or anything ends up in the final product.

7. LAST STEP, your almost there, take the filtered oil and funnel the final product into the canola oil

 

[vealesy]

How about oil? that is easier to make than butter and you can make smaller batches too, another good way is to make make a pizza(mostly cheese) then cook it for 20mins, add weed to the top of the pizza and another layer of cheese then cook it on low for another 10mins.

You can also make firecrackers which is basically a cracker biscuit + peanut butter with weed sprinkled on it zapped in a microwave.

All weed needs is a fatty substance to be melted into, thats why butter, oil, cheese, peanut butter, nutella, etc will do.

Also the general rule is half as much for twice as long.

Post of the year so far.

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