Player Watch Mark Keane (Retired 2022, Crows SSP 2023)

[regpies]

Yep, not sure anyone could have stopped the West Coast talls that quarter

Darcy would’ve absolutely reduced some of the damage.

Their accuracy and converting opportunities was the main thing, 11.3 from them last night. They scored 18.3 against us last year and kicked at least 6/7 from 50 out near the boundary.

 

[deano_66]

Both his games been thrown to wolves poor bastard

He played his first against freo lol who were bottom 4 last year and made tabernar look like he was the full forward of the century lol come on mate.

 

[pablo disco bar]

He played his first against freo lol who were bottom 4 last year and made tabernar look like he was the full forward of the century lol come on mate.

Yeah but no howe that game either ..plus hub life

 

[stormskye]

Basically a first gamer against the best tall forward line in the league, at home, without Howe and Moore to intercept, and a very average midfield. Think we can cut the kid some slack ffs

 

[OniAu]

I dont like to judge too early. But a few things stand out to me

His indecision and hesitation with the ball is concerning for a back.
He looks lost at sea when the ball comes down fast.

We cant have a backline consisting of Keane and Magden. Or we are going to get belted pillar to post each week

 

[Ugene41]

I think he showed something. Definitely worth backing him in to keep Moore forward.

 

[Everybody Panic]

He looked lost. I thought Magden has looked ok in some games in the backline and would go with him before Keane. Though given Howe is out we might be stuck. I like Moore forward. Don't think it's his best spot but gives us a much more threatening forward 50 with him and Cox.

 

[stormskye]

He can play the rest of the year but it can be in the VFL.

I reckon he had 7/8 kicked on him last night because he was part on Darling and part Allen.

Taberner kicked 4 on him in his other game.

That’s 12 in 2 games, clearly not ready.

Moore had 8 kicked on him by McKay and Daniher in games we were on TOP

 

[regpies]

Moore had 8 kicked on him by McKay and Daniher in games we were on TOP

Moore plays on the #1 forward and gets 5-6 intercept marks and 15-20 pos. He doesn’t lose simple 1 on 1’s where Keene wasn’t even close. Fair difference

 

[magpie_marty]

Play him in the forward line.

 

[jackcass]

I think you’re confusing me for someone else, because I’m pretty sure I’ve never argued with you about Phillips’ poor kicking, let alone been one of the ‘chief shouters’. I always had my heart in my mouth when he put the ball on his boot, outside a short period of 2018.

It’s cool though, just keep up the unwarranted condescension. I’m not basing my judgement on Madge on one game btw, his decision making and disposal has been really poor all year. It’s hard to see it suddenly improving at this point.

That’s not my recollection but CBF looking so I’ll withdraw my disparaging remark.

Still only 25-26 senior games experience under his belt so again just overly harsh. He’s generally fine with ball in hand.

 

[pablo disco bar]

Play him in the forward line.

Just no

 

[stormskye]

Moore plays on the #1 forward and gets 5-6 intercept marks and 15-20 pos. He doesn’t lose simple 1 on 1’s where Keene wasn’t even close. Fair difference

Comparing Moore to basically a first gamer against the eagles when our mids got killed. He needs some time, like any kid, especially KP players

 

[Apex36]

That’s not my recollection but CBF looking so I’ll withdraw my disparaging remark.

Still only 25-26 senior games experience under his belt so again just overly harsh. He’s generally fine with ball in hand.

Went at 57% again last night and was infuriating to watch him consistently take the wrong option. I was actually relatively positive on him last year, but he’s been nothing short of terrible for the last few weeks.

 

[Apex36]

On topic with Keane, I hope we persist with him for a solid block of games. Coming in to defend a forward line consisting of Kennedy, Darling and Allen without the support of Moore or Howe is nothing short of a baptism of fire, and frankly I felt sorry for him. Essendons key forwards are significantly weaker, so I think it’s important we let him have an opportunity get his confidence up and back him in rather than dropping him immediately like we did last year when he got his shot.

 

[gouki88]

Basically a first gamer against the best tall forward line in the league, at home, without Howe and Moore to intercept, and a very average midfield. Think we can cut the kid some slack ffs

This is where I've ended up on him. He's been thrown to the wolves. I think he can end up pretty solid. Want to see Kelly in the backline too with Howe down

 

[jackcass]

Hit a pearler pass in the fourth I think, and generally looked pretty sound in the first too before he started getting isolated and fumbling everything airborne.

Definite attributes but it was a harsh game for him to be selected in, although I do understand our cupboard is entirely bare for alternatives (and with Howe going down thank god he was there).

Wouldn’t have minded seeing him tried as a defensive forward on McGovern and to have shifted Moore back once Howe went down but Darcy ended up paying his own way. Hope Mark gets more opportunities to develop but it will probably be at the expense of giving ourselves the absolute best chance of a win week to week. We need to know what these kids can do though.

Yeah, showed a lot more this outing than his previous game. Just unfortunate he’s given away a couple of easy goals, and got beaten in a number of other contests. Was always the risk of moving Moore forward that the opposition KPF’s would get a hold of him. I liked that Buck’s stuck fat and apart from at the end of the 2nd quarter kept Moore forward and persisted with Keane. He’ll learn a lot from that.

 

[jackcass]

Went at 57% again last night and was infuriating to watch him consistently take the wrong option. I was actually relatively positive on him last year, but he’s been nothing short of terrible for the last few weeks.

Watched him closely last night. Was at 25% at 1/4 time with 3 of his 4 disposals unsuccessful attempts to clear frenzied contested circumstances. Did well to recover to 19 disposals @ 57% given he spent significant time behind the footy covering Mayne and Howe. . Touted elite users like Daicos (58%), Quaynor (69%), and Macrae (61%) also struggled. Gooey (50%), Checkers (36%), and McCreery (55%) also struggled. But let's focus on Madge shall we.

 

[Apex36]

Watched him closely last night. Was at 25% at 1/4 time with 3 of his 4 disposals unsuccessful attempts to clear frenzied contested circumstances. Did well to recover to 19 disposals @ 57% given he spent significant time behind the footy covering Mayne and Howe. . Touted elite users like Daicos (58%), Quaynor (69%), and Macrae (61%) also struggled. Gooey (50%), Checkers (36%), and McCreery (55%) also struggled. But let's focus on Madge shall we.

I’m well within my rights to focus on him, as you were with Phillips. Time will tell, but for mine, he lacks the composure and decision making to play on the wing. I’m comfortable with that assessment regardless of the excuses made for him.

 

[mike123]

Moore plays on the #1 forward and gets 5-6 intercept marks and 15-20 pos. He doesn’t lose simple 1 on 1’s where Keene wasn’t even close. Fair difference

Roughead plays on the #1 forward

 

[nahnah]

He has had 2 bags kicked on him in his first two games Zac Dawson

Zac Dawson

Age

38

Ht

197cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.0

3star

K

3.4

1star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.5

3star

MG

34.4

1star

No current season stats available

D

8.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

style, he spills uncontested marks, very unimpressed and with Moore forward I would rather try Kelly if he is healthy

 

[Apex36]

He has had 2 bags kicked on him in his first two games Zac Dawson style, he spills uncontested marks, very unimpressed and with Moore forward I would rather try Kelly if he is healthy

Kelly needs some time in the two’s to develop his defensive game again. He was soundly beaten by Buzza today. He needs to get his reading of the play and intercept marking game up and running again before playing seniors.

 

[regpies]

Comparing Moore to basically a first gamer against the eagles when our mids got killed. He needs some time, like any kid, especially KP players

You compared Moore to him and I was replying to that

 

[35Daicos]

He has been suspended, so (as things stand) won't be playing next week: Match Review: Collingwood defender Mark Keane banned for tripping (afl.com.au)

 

[stormskye]

brain fade, deserved the week I’m afraid