Player Watch Mark Keane (Retired 2022, Crows SSP 2023)

[Scodog10]

Exactly how much time was Madge specifically opposed to Gaff? My read watching it on TV was that he spent more time in defence than on a wing. Moved back when Mayne went off, and then again to cover Howe.

Judging by his heat map over 80% of TOG. He had one possession in the defensive third for the night and from what I can remember zero defensive one on ones.

We can bounce back and forward on this type of discussion, but the sad reality for Collingwood is we are regressing with guys like Mayne and Madgen on our wings.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Judging by his heat map over 80% of TOG. He had one possession in the defensive third for the night and from what I can remember zero defensive one on ones.

We can bounce back and forward on this type of discussion, but the sad reality for Collingwood is we are regressing with guys like Mayne and Madgen on our wings.

Absofrickenlutely!

 

[jackcass]

Yeah I agree it’s incidental but the whole idea of strict liability is that doesn’t matter

Go back and re-watch it. JDG contributed as much if not more to the contact as Kelly.

Judging by his heat map over 80% of TOG. He had one possession in the defensive third for the night and from what I can remember zero defensive one on ones.

We can bounce back and forward on this type of discussion, but the sad reality for Collingwood is we are regressing with guys like Mayne and Madgen on our wings.

Yep, pretty pointless discussion. Madge has had all of a game and a bit on a wing in his 26 game career. I'm prepared to give him time, you're not.

I'm certainly not taking a heat map as definitive evidence. Weagles opened up their F50 so hardly unexpected his possessions were between the arcs.

 

[magpies42]

Seen nothing from him in 1.5 games to suggest he’s anywhere near an AFL player

Clearly beaten in the one on ones, but that will come as he learns to more confidently read the flight of the ball. His kicking appears sound and he’s willing to take the game on. I think he’s going to be a good player for us, the only way he can develop the skills is if he plays in the 1’s. He needs some time against the most crafty and experienced forwards, that benefit form slick ball movement. Have some faith

 

[Seedsfan]

Go back and re-watch it. JDG contributed as much if not more to the contact as Kelly.

Lol that’s irrelevant the most basic premise of officiating the game is to protect the ball player. Also it wasn’t DeGoey who jumped at Kelly

 

[OniAu]

Delist, move on.

Im over project irish players. i dont care how little they cost either

 

[sr36]

Exactly how much time was Madge specifically opposed to Gaff? My read watching it on TV was that he spent more time in defence than on a wing. Moved back when Mayne went off, and then again to cover Howe.

We don't play man on man anyway. We play a zone.

 

[Seedsfan]

We don't play man on man anyway. We play a zone.

Still the game forces you to be accountable. We may play a zone while they have possession but at any stoppage set up the wings aren’t in a zone.

 

[pablo disco bar]

I was on him


Bit now I'm off him

 

[Lockyer24]

Looking forward to watching him develop from here.

The Eagles game was a great learning experience.

I’m on board.

 

[Apex36]

Yeah I agree it’s incidental but the whole idea of strict liability is that doesn’t matter

It matters if the players intent is to initiate contact. Incidental contact when both players have eyes for the ball is not reportable, and Kelly definitely only had eyes for the ball.

 

[whiskeytown]

Has been ordinary at AFL level... nerves may be an issue... because at VFL level he has been solid down back since 2019 VFL season. Looks like a different player.

Whether Keane, Kelly or Tohill becomes our future fullback I don’t care.

But ideally we replace Roughead with one of them, Moore with another of them (so he can play up front for an extended trial), and Wilson becomes a Howe replacement in time.

I think Keane, Kelly, Tohill and Wilson have all showed a bit here and there... but they are fairly inexperienced and will take time

Should try and get a number of games into all of them before years out

 

[pablo disco bar]

Has been ordinary at AFL level... nerves may be an issue... because at VFL level he has been solid down back since 2019 VFL season. Looks like a different player.

Whether Keane, Kelly or Tohill becomes our future fullback I don’t care.

But ideally we replace Roughead with one of them, Moore with another of them (so he can play up front for an extended trial), and Wilson becomes a Howe replacement in time.

I think Keane, Kelly, Tohill and Wilson have all showed a bit here and there... but they are fairly inexperienced and will take time

Should try and get a number of games into all of them before years out

Wilson won't play a game from what I've seen

 

[jackcass]

Wilson won't play a game from what I've seen

Was that code for "just play him"?

 

[mike123]

Our wings aren't expected to man up, they're expected to zone. The issue when other wingers have a good game is system, not personnel.

The other issue is Mayne and Madgen aren’t threats ball in hand so it allows the opposition wings to be less accountable.

 

[Seedsfan]

It matters if the players intent is to initiate contact. Incidental contact when both players have eyes for the ball is not reportable, and Kelly definitely only had eyes for the ball.

Well no that’s not in anyway true the ball had already been won by JDG

 

[THATSGOLD]

He’s another Magden. Slow slow slow and fumbles. He’ll be gone when the new coach comes in.

 

[Anzacday]

He’s another Magden. Slow slow slow and fumbles. He’ll be gone when the new coach comes in.

Completely disagree.

 

[Mike Olotripo]

Keane shows signs to me that he can be a really strong key defender. It will be great to see him get an extended run at AFL level to prove his worth.

 

[ipswichpies]

He’s another Magden. Slow slow slow and fumbles. He’ll be gone when the new coach comes in.

I know there is not much to be positive about atm about the Pies but will it change with you and others of your ilk when the new coach comes in.
Seriously you and the others are like broken recordings, we all know the Pies are in dire straits but if we have infighting all the time it will take longer to remerge from the predicament we are in.

I do not think 1 of us truly believes Buckley will this survive this and he should not but he will not be the only 1 but with good guidance we should be alright in 3 to 5years time we just have to hang on and that is easier when we united.

 

[ipswichpies]

Keane shows signs to me that he can be a really strong key defender. It will be great to see him get an extended run at AFL level to prove his worth.

I agree with this and he will give a dip of that I have no doubt, I like his tenacity right from the start, a bit of mongrel never goes out of fashion.

 

[Quicky]

Judging by his heat map over 80% of TOG. He had one possession in the defensive third for the night and from what I can remember zero defensive one on ones.

We can bounce back and forward on this type of discussion, but the sad reality for Collingwood is we are regressing with guys like Mayne and Madgen on our wings.

This really shits me when we have players like Sidebottom, Daicos and Crisp. It's an area of the ground which should be a strength. It's a coach and selection issue. I'm glad Poulter has been selected, at least he has some offensive intent. Lets hope he plays the position.

 

[Quicky]

I thought for every time Keane got beaten against the Eagles he'd turn around and do something good. Take an intercept mark, get a late spoil in or show composure ball in hand under pressure. That suggests to me he has the qualities to make it. I think too much is expected of a 2nd game player. He'll be one to judge after 30 or 40. It'll take some pain and patience.

 

[Apex36]

I know there is not much to be positive about atm about the Pies but will it change with you and others of your ilk when the new coach comes in.
Seriously you and the others are like broken recordings, we all know the Pies are in dire straits but if we have infighting all the time it will take longer to remerge from the predicament we are in.

I do not think 1 of us truly believes Buckley will this survive this and he should not but he will not be the only 1 but with good guidance we should be alright in 3 to 5years time we just have to hang on and that is easier when we united.

You clearly don’t know TG. The only thing that will change with him once Buckley goes is that he’ll start saying the club made a mistake getting rid of him.

 

[mike123]

He’s another Magden. Slow slow slow and fumbles. He’ll be gone when the new coach comes in.

He looks quicker then Madgen but I’m getting the same vibe. Hopefully he proves us wrong.