Mark Seaby.

Remove this Banner Ad

YellowandBlackBlood said:
I have seen him play. I don't rate him at all. Neither do the Eagles as he couldn't get a game in a team with an injured ruckman that was languishing near the bottom of the ladder.

If you say he is so good, please explain that! I have posed the question several times and nobody has answered it properly!
Click to expand...
Im afraid I can't answer that in full detail. Maybe ask a West Coast fan? Cox was playing 90% game time anyway, the guys a freak, maybe the Eagles didnt see a need to play a 2nd ruckmen? And if he was playing down forward he'd just be in the way of McKinley and the likes. I dont know the honest truth behind it all, but what I do know is that when he has got sole responsibility and healthy game-time, he hasnt let anyone down.
 
The Cotch said:
Im afraid I can't answer that in full detail. Maybe ask a West Coast fan? Cox was playing 90% game time anyway, the guys a freak, maybe the Eagles didnt see a need to play a 2nd ruckmen? And if he was playing down forward he'd just be in the way of McKinley and the likes. I dont know the honest truth behind it all, but what I do know is that when he has got sole responsibility and healthy game-time, he hasnt let anyone down.
Click to expand...

Thanks Cotch, but it worries me when we want to pick up a guy who cannot get a game with a poorly performing club and not only that, we also give away our 2nd choice in draft. And it is a very good draft indeed.
 
YellowandBlackBlood said:
Neither do the Eagles as he couldn't get a game in a team with an injured ruckman that was languishing near the bottom of the ladder.
Click to expand...

Cox broke out in 2004, the year of Seaby's debut and the year Gardiner did his knee in round 1. That was about 119 games ago, give or take, and Seaby has gotten 97 games out of those 120 odd, which shows he can break into the team - he's basically a fixture.

This year, Seaby has played 14 out of 22 games. That's not bad and I wouldn't say that constitutes not being able to break into the team.

As far as I can tell Seaby wasn't interested in being at West Coast since Cox hurt his foot but wasn't rested. Even after round 8 when we were 1-7, Cox stayed in the team and I reckon that's when the penny dropped for Seaby. He had to get out and there was going to be a press conference from him during the year which was cancelled suddenly. Have a look at some old threads on the West Coast board if you don't believe me.
 

Log in to remove this ad.

SS_Fury said:
if the wce thought of him as a list clogger then why are they asking for a 1st rounder for him?
seabs for 26? done for mine. We are obviously going after nic nat. I lol'd at the asking price for poor ol seabs.
Click to expand...

prob the same silly games Ess started with when they suggested the same for Lovett, since then the silence has been deafening:eek:
 
YellowandBlackBlood said:
Thanks Cotch, but it worries me when we want to pick up a guy who cannot get a game with a poorly performing club and not only that, we also give away our 2nd choice in draft. And it is a very good draft indeed.
Click to expand...


Even though Seaby may improve alot and end up being a half decent player, I dont think he warrants a second rounder just yet. Third rounder at the most.
 
this was mentioned on west coast board

west coast get pick 8 from tigers
richmond get seaby +picks 18 /20/36
seems like a fair deal:thumbsu:
 
bluesbrother said:
this was mentioned on west coast board

west coast get pick 8 from tigers
richmond get seaby +picks 18 /20/36
seems like a fair deal:thumbsu:
Click to expand...

You have to be joking!!! Why would we give up pick 8 for Seaby??? Those other draft picks will mean bugger all to us as we will probably only have 4 picks in the draft anyway and we already have 26 and 42.
 
Jimmy_the_Gent said:
Here are Seaby's games over the last 3 years when Cox isn't playing.

R7, 2007: 17 disposals, 16 hit outs, 7 marks, 0.0.
R2, 2007: 13 disposals, 24 hit outs, 4 marks, 0.0.
R1, 2007: 13 disposals, 23 hit outs, 4 marks, 2.0.
R18, 2006: 17 disposals, 16 hit outs, 5 marks, 0.1.
R17, 2006: 9 disposals, 25 hit outs, 2 marks, 0.1.
R16, 2006: 15 disposals, 24 hit outs, 3 marks, 3.0.
R15, 2006: 11 disposals, 32 hit outs, 2 marks, 0.0.
R14, 2006: 8 disposals, 15 hit outs, 2 marks, 1.1.

That averages out to 12.9 disposals, 21.9 hit outs, 3.6 marks and 0.75 goals per game, as leading ruck, without Cox.
Click to expand...

about the only post worth reading and its from an eagles fan
thanks mate
those stats seem pretty good
still not sure about pick 26 unless we can trade somewhere for
another 2nd rounder.
 
Hmm you can rest a bit easier for those who are scepticle.........

Pure media hype I'm led to believe.

Although it still dosnt clarify why Polo was in Perth?
 

(Log in to remove this ad.)

Brazen said:
Hmmm might make it difficult for you guys anyways now that Melbourne have publicly declared their interest (in The Age today I think)... rumour mill (for what its worth) was along the lines of Melbourne's pick 19 + gaurantee to leave NicNat alone in draft, for Seaby + pick 36 from WCE
Click to expand...

so whats goin on?? r we after mark seaby??...i just heard about it then...lol....

so if we do get seaby.. who do we have to trade for him??..

can some1 please give me some information!:D:D
 
Seaby is younger than I thought. Seems like he's been around for ages. If we got him he'd be better at the centre bounces than anyone else we have at the moment, which is about the only area of the ruck we are weak at. But not in the same league as Simmo around the ground and arguably no better than Patto will become around the stoppages. He can go forward and kick a goal, or at least he could when west coast had an all-star midfield feeding him. He's reportedly asking for around $250K, which seems around the mark for a 100 gamer of his standard. I wouldn't be upset if we got, nor would I if we missed out. But if we paid a second round pick for him, then hopefully we would trade back into that round. I don't like the idea of missing picks in the first two rounds as it hurts long term. You need to get at least one good young player from the first two picks and score another one or two in the later rounds to keep the list balanced over the long term.
 


Mark Seaby:
West coast will only be in search for pick upgrades especially of pick #36 or later because of list space or will target an early 2nd rounder.
This deal could be useful for both clubs, Richmond gain picks #18 and #20 which is really not to much different to a pick 12 in this draft due to the eveness from about picks 8 through to 24 ish while also securing another early 3rd round pick as well as an established, PROVEN ruckmen. While West Coast are able to secure their man, Chris Yarran at 8.
Richmond out: Pick #8, #26
Richmond In: Mark Seaby, #18,#20,#36


Adam Thomson:
Port Adelaide will be on the look out for tall forwards or backs in a trade involving Thomson.
This trade will be beneficial for both parties, Port get their tall KPP while gaining a early 3rd round pick while Richmond add to their midfield depth with a clearance machine and add another early 2nd round pick.
Richmond out: Hughes/Shultz, pick #36 (from W.C
Richmond In: Thomson, pick #22

So we head into the draft with picks #18, #20, #22 and #42
So for example we could end up with
#18 :Blease, Swift, Yarran, Suban, Hanneburry, Hill
#20 Shoenmakers, Trengove Lisle, Johnstone, Cahill
#22 Roughhead or whoever is still available from above
And then either pick best available at #42 or pass.


Thoughtss?????
 
dont like the first trade because our first pick is to late. but the 2nd trade looks alright. but not sure which of hughes and schulz i would give up.
 
Trading a top 10 pick for Seaby would be farcical, no matter what else they throw into the deal. Never trade quality for quantity.
 
The Cotch said:
I agree. People have short memories. Admittedly he had a poor year this year due to the Eagles playing one ruckmen mostly, but when Cox was out injured, have people forgotten how good he played at such a young age for a ruckmen? He's entering his peak now and will be an asset long-term. People calling him a spud have no idea. He's better than Warnock, who most of you were drooling over :rolleyes: However I dont think we should give up a second rounder, and I dont think Cameron will. He knows as much as any of us the first 2 picks are vital. I hope we get him :thumbsu:
Click to expand...

How do you know that he won't give up our second rounder? As far as I am concerned our first two picks should be untouchable. Too much quality in the top 30 to trade away. Wouldn't mind Seaby on the list but would have to be for a third rounder plus a player at the most. Third rounder and Jake King would be fair, or dean polo and a third rounder plus west coasts fourth round pick.

I think the club will only take him if they believe Vickery is not in our plans and/or will be gone by pick 8. Signing Angus for another 2 years means thay we may not be that interested in another ruck. Maybe?
 
08yearofthetiger said:
Mark Seaby:
West coast will only be in search for pick upgrades especially of pick #36 or later because of list space or will target an early 2nd rounder.
This deal could be useful for both clubs, Richmond gain picks #18 and #20 which is really not to much different to a pick 12 in this draft due to the eveness from about picks 8 through to 24 ish while also securing another early 3rd round pick as well as an established, PROVEN ruckmen. While West Coast are able to secure their man, Chris Yarran at 8.
Richmond out: Pick #8, #26
Richmond In: Mark Seaby, #18,#20,#36


Adam Thomson:
Port Adelaide will be on the look out for tall forwards or backs in a trade involving Thomson.
This trade will be beneficial for both parties, Port get their tall KPP while gaining a early 3rd round pick while Richmond add to their midfield depth with a clearance machine and add another early 2nd round pick.
Richmond out: Hughes/Shultz, pick #36 (from W.C
Richmond In: Thomson, pick #22

So we head into the draft with picks #18, #20, #22 and #42
So for example we could end up with
#18 :Blease, Swift, Yarran, Suban, Hanneburry, Hill
#20 Shoenmakers, Trengove Lisle, Johnstone, Cahill
#22 Roughhead or whoever is still available from above
And then either pick best available at #42 or pass.


Thoughtss?????
Click to expand...

Not bad really. Obviously loathe to give up pick 8 but three picks in the top 25 would be very valuable. There are some very good young players on offer in the top 25. I doutb Blease will last to pick 18. He would be right up there for St Kilda, Collingwood, North. Anyone who needs pace and skill in the midfield basically.

Still doubt the club will let go of pick 8 but if ever it was going to happen this would be the year. West Coast would be loving that deal. Two picks in the top 10 to add to last years bumper crop. Talk about a quick and super rebuild.
 

Remove this Banner Ad

Mark Seaby.

Remove this Banner Ad

Back
Top