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Now we're nearly a 3rd of the way through the year, does anyone want to have a go at a Round 20 ladder.

Here's mine...

Brook - Best list and still beating teams when they have 4-5 name injuries.

Harcourt - They still have the better players in the league in Smith, Hutch and some very handy recruits. Started slow but they are unbeaten at this point.

Avoca - I tipped them to finish top but I think they will get caught out against teams like Brook and Harcourt.

Maldon - Getting better by the week and a 10 goal touch up over Rovers shows that.

Talbot - Should sneak in. There are injury concerns at the moment, but most teams have 4-5 guys out per week.

Rovers - They've been talked up too much but will miss the finals. You can't pay finals without a key forward.

Trentham - Big improvers and I'd expect them to get better as the year goes on. So I would not count them out at this stage.

Newstead - Coming into form and with Oxley rucking, they will always have first use of the footy.

Dunolly - Will beat the teams below them and I wouldn't expect much more.

Royal Park - They should beat Creek but that's about it for Bushy. May push Dunolly though.

Campbells Creek - I think interest levels will drop as the year goes on and trouble with the coach early is not good.
 
EarToTheGround said:
Now we're nearly a 3rd of the way through the year, does anyone want to have a go at a Round 20 ladder.

Here's mine...

Brook - Best list and still beating teams when they have 4-5 name injuries.

Harcourt - They still have the better players in the league in Smith, Hutch and some very handy recruits. Started slow but they are unbeaten at this point.

Avoca - I tipped them to finish top but I think they will get caught out against teams like Brook and Harcourt.

Maldon - Getting better by the week and a 10 goal touch up over Rovers shows that.

Talbot - Should sneak in. There are injury concerns at the moment, but most teams have 4-5 guys out per week.

Rovers - They've been talked up too much but will miss the finals. You can't pay finals without a key forward.

Trentham - Big improvers and I'd expect them to get better as the year goes on. So I would not count them out at this stage.

Newstead - Coming into form and with Oxley rucking, they will always have first use of the footy.

Dunolly - Will beat the teams below them and I wouldn't expect much more.

Royal Park - They should beat Creek but that's about it for Bushy. May push Dunolly though.

Campbells Creek - I think interest levels will drop as the year goes on and trouble with the coach early is not good.
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Not a bad ladder. I think we will finish above Maldon as well though. Other than that it looks spot on unless there are any major surprises. I still think that Avoca might finish above Harcourt tho. I have fallen for the trap over the years but I really think Harcourt have slipped a little this year. Will still be top 3, but they will need to rely on their experience to make another grand final.

Agreed with all clubs have injuries but we have suffered injuries to a lot of our top-tier players which has been disappointing. We were not far off beating Avoca and Harcourt and would be confident of rolling them the second time around. Talbot has not counted its season out just yet.

Dunolly have been refreshingly competitive this season which is good to see and a credit to coach and players out there. It has been great to see minimal blow-outs this season which is great for the image of the league. Most clubs, except Creek, Bushy & Dunolly, have the ability to upset the top teams.
 

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KingRich said:
Not a bad ladder. I think we will finish above Maldon as well though. Other than that it looks spot on unless there are any major surprises. I still think that Avoca might finish above Harcourt tho. I have fallen for the trap over the years but I really think Harcourt have slipped a little this year. Will still be top 3, but they will need to rely on their experience to make another grand final.

Agreed with all clubs have injuries but we have suffered injuries to a lot of our top-tier players which has been disappointing. We were not far off beating Avoca and Harcourt and would be confident of rolling them the second time around. Talbot has not counted its season out just yet.

Dunolly have been refreshingly competitive this season which is good to see and a credit to coach and players out there. It has been great to see minimal blow-outs this season which is great for the image of the league. Most clubs, except Creek, Bushy & Dunolly, have the ability to upset the top teams.
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This weekend will be telling with Brook and Harcourt. Brook did Avoca with ease and had top tier players standing on the sidelines so that is where I decided that Avoca were 3rd.

There is no doubt Talbot have had their share of injuries to their better players and especially early in the games which contributes to running out of legs. You did beat Maldon easily so fourth is up for grabs.

As long as the 200 point barrier doesn't get broken, it is a win for the league.
 
KingRich said:
Not a bad ladder. I think we will finish above Maldon as well though. Other than that it looks spot on unless there are any major surprises. I still think that Avoca might finish above Harcourt tho. I have fallen for the trap over the years but I really think Harcourt have slipped a little this year. Will still be top 3, but they will need to rely on their experience to make another grand final.

Agreed with all clubs have injuries but we have suffered injuries to a lot of our top-tier players which has been disappointing. We were not far off beating Avoca and Harcourt and would be confident of rolling them the second time around. Talbot has not counted its season out just yet.

Dunolly have been refreshingly competitive this season which is good to see and a credit to coach and players out there. It has been great to see minimal blow-outs this season which is great for the image of the league. Most clubs, except Creek, Bushy & Dunolly, have the ability to upset the top teams.
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Not far off beating Avoca? u were down by 51 points in the final qtr, only 2 dodgy goals made it half respectable, you stuck with them for 3 qtrs but injuries didn't help in the end, but injuries have hurt most sides to date, would be great to see sides play each other with full lists to choose from
 
EarToTheGround said:
This weekend will be telling with Brook and Harcourt. Brook did Avoca with ease and had top tier players standing on the sidelines so that is where I decided that Avoca were 3rd.

There is no doubt Talbot have had their share of injuries to their better players and especially early in the games which contributes to running out of legs. You did beat Maldon easily so fourth is up for grabs.

As long as the 200 point barrier doesn't get broken, it is a win for the league.
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Watching the Brook V Avoca game, i wouldnt say it was done with ease, Avoca had N Coghlan,A Grant,C Ross, C Moser on side lines and new recruit L Morrissey playing 1st game in a year, both sides at full strength would be even money contest
 
darkhorse4000 said:
Watching the Brook V Avoca game, i wouldnt say it was done with ease, Avoca had N Coghlan,A Grant,C Ross, C Moser on side lines and new recruit L Morrissey playing 1st game in a year, both sides at full strength would be even money contest
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Play that card if you want but Brook's outs were equal to Avoca's. Brad Ross, Lloyd, Nick Robbo and a few others. Not taking anything away from Avoca because they are a good team but they looked incapable of kicking a winning score on that occassion. They also let guys like Chipper run free who IMO is deserving of a tough tag.
 
darkhorse4000 said:
Not far off beating Avoca? u were down by 51 points in the final qtr, only 2 dodgy goals made it half respectable, you stuck with them for 3 qtrs but injuries didn't help in the end, but injuries have hurt most sides to date, would be great to see sides play each other with full lists to choose from
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It is alot easier to go into games with injuries, than to receive injuries during a game, atleast you can replace them..against avoca and harcourt talbot were forced to play with a 1-2 man bench for most the game...
 
darkhorse4000 said:
Not far off beating Avoca? u were down by 51 points in the final qtr, only 2 dodgy goals made it half respectable, you stuck with them for 3 qtrs but injuries didn't help in the end, but injuries have hurt most sides to date, would be great to see sides play each other with full lists to choose from
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As an Avoca supporter you wouldn't have felt the game was comfortably in the bank until about the last 10 minutes. We were very competitive just couldn't finish off. We played one short due to a send off in the middle period of the game and also lost Smith & Bond very,very early. You were the better side on the day but I think Talbot is more than capable of beating you.
 
Sherman41 said:
It is alot easier to go into games with injuries, than to receive injuries during a game, atleast you can replace them..against avoca and harcourt talbot were forced to play with a 1-2 man bench for most the game...
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Speaking of interchange numbers.... Does anyone else think that 4 on the bench in the seniors is one too many?
 
KingRich said:
Speaking of interchange numbers.... Does anyone else think that 4 on the bench in the seniors is one too many?
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I think it shows a lack of vision from the league. 4 or 5 teams are struggling with numbers in the 2's and the seniors have 4 on the bench. 21 is plenty. It's probably okay in finals but in home and away, it really disadvantages the teams with lacking reserves.
 
Johnny Drama said:
I think it shows a lack of vision from the league. 4 or 5 teams are struggling with numbers in the 2's and the seniors have 4 on the bench. 21 is plenty. It's probably okay in finals but in home and away, it really disadvantages the teams with lacking reserves.
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Agreed. From a coaching point of view also it is nigh on impossible to rotate a four man bench effectively!
 

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KingRich said:
Agreed. From a coaching point of view also it is nigh on impossible to rotate a four man bench effectively!
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In the AFL with endless depth and a good rotation system - it is possible. But in country footy it is hopeless. A problem is that the 4th man on the bench sees little game time and would be better off having 4 quarters in the 2's.
 
KingRich said:
As an Avoca supporter you wouldn't have felt the game was comfortably in the bank until about the last 10 minutes. We were very competitive just couldn't finish off. We played one short due to a send off in the middle period of the game and also lost Smith & Bond very,very early. You were the better side on the day but I think Talbot is more than capable of beating you.
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King the hit on Brad wardlaw not 5 meters from our bench was a cheap shot.I think from what i hear DISCIPLINE is prehaps a problem talbot needs to fix if they are to play finals.That very same player who was sent off seems to do that very regularly.All im trying to say is prehaps get a new tactic when your team is losing.Every team sees it coming, and prehaps even banks on it.But like me, your intitled to your opinion.Just dont use one man down,as an excuse.
 
KingRich said:
As an Avoca supporter you wouldn't have felt the game was comfortably in the bank until about the last 10 minutes. We were very competitive just couldn't finish off. We played one short due to a send off in the middle period of the game and also lost Smith & Bond very,very early. You were the better side on the day but I think Talbot is more than capable of beating you.
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Well King you are a very passionate Talbot supporter, good to see that passion, as a person who doesn't watch that much MCFL footy I was wondering who your injuries were the only two you have mentioned are smith and bond. Will they play again this year? both shoulders? I hope you realise that most teams in country footy have injuries. The Darkhorse makes some good pionts about Avoca and their injuries, not shure if Moser will be back this year. Brook has some injuries, trenthem has some injuries, it's all about what you do with the cattle you have on the park. Just on you last quote that you think talbot are capable of beating Avoca good on you for thinking that mate but I think you may be greatly disapionted especially if your injurie curse continues.
 
Pyrenees Puma said:
King the hit on Brad wardlaw not 5 meters from our bench was a cheap shot.I think from what i hear DISCIPLINE is prehaps a problem talbot needs to fix if they are to play finals.That very same player who was sent off seems to do that very regularly.All im trying to say is prehaps get a new tactic when your team is losing.Every team sees it coming, and prehaps even banks on it.But like me, your intitled to your opinion.Just dont use one man down,as an excuse.
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Adrian, did someone have to fill you in on the incident? As the word around Bendigo town was that you may have been a little "out of it" after the first quarter??
 
Localfootyfan said:
Adrian, did someone have to fill you in on the incident? As the word around Bendigo town was that you may have been a little "out of it" after the first quarter??
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LFF if by Adrian you meen pilgs , you couldnt be further from the mark.But thanks for raising another incident involving that very same player involved in the send off.Once again a cheap shot as pilgs was leading. I'm amazed he is allowed to get away with such things week in week out.I was all ways told when your to old or to slow give the game away.If that was the highlight of your day, mine was getting the four points.If you are from Talbot ask Benny to give roger a go at boxing.I bet he's no good.
 
Pyrenees Puma said:
LFF if by Adrian you meen pilgs , you couldnt be further from the mark.But thanks for raising another incident involving that very same player involved in the send off.Once again a cheap shot as pilgs was leading. I'm amazed he is allowed to get away with such things week in week out.I was all ways told when your to old or to slow give the game away.If that was the highlight of your day, mine was getting the four points.If you are from Talbot ask Benny to give roger a go at boxing.I bet he's no good.
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i think u will find it wasnt even roger that got pilgs anyway...as far as roger being too old and slow i would have to disagree the bloke is a club champion and fantastic leader, he is a valuable asset to the club....as for us being dirty yes we like to play it hard but thats it... its not as if avoca didnt dish it out that day either!!!!...
 
KingRich said:
Tips for this week. Looks to be a very interesting round coming up!

Carisbrook v Harcourt - Carisbrook should get the points in a great encounter. Brook by 5 goals

Dunolly v Trentham - Danger game for Trentham who must win to stay in touch with the final 5. Trentham too have too much class and win by 8 goals

Talbot v Royal Park - Talbot still quite undermanned but anything less than a 100 point flogging would be disappointing!

Campbells Creek v Newstead - I think Newstead are travelling ok considering their losses and should be too good for Creek. If Creek stay disciplined and turn up to play the margin could be close though. I dont think this will be the case however! Newstead by 60 points.

Maldon v Avoca - Bit of an upset I'm tipping here. Maldon will have their tails up after last week and are always tough to beat at home.
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Trentham not quite up to the challange!! Well done to the improved Dunolly side who is starting to gel and get the job done, Trentham not the side they they have been cracked up to be by people or what is the story, maybe just a gutsy effort by the eagles??
 
The Mighty Maroons said:
Trentham not quite up to the challange!! Well done to the improved Dunolly side who is starting to gel and get the job done, Trentham not the side they they have been cracked up to be by people or what is the story, maybe just a gutsy effort by the eagles??
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a couple of very interesting results on the weekend...well done to the dunolly boys a great effort by them to get up and over trentham...maldon beating avoca could cause some headaches for talbot and rovers now for the final spots of the 5!!!...what happened to avoca???...injuries??..played bad??...or were maldon just too good??
 
Sherman41 said:
a couple of very interesting results on the weekend...well done to the dunolly boys a great effort by them to get up and over trentham...maldon beating avoca could cause some headaches for talbot and rovers now for the final spots of the 5!!!...what happened to avoca???...injuries??..played bad??...or were maldon just too good??
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Unlike others who get on this forum and use excuses for a loss, Maldon were to good on the day.
 
Harries08 said:
Well King you are a very passionate Talbot supporter, good to see that passion, as a person who doesn't watch that much MCFL footy I was wondering who your injuries were the only two you have mentioned are smith and bond. Will they play again this year? both shoulders? I hope you realise that most teams in country footy have injuries. The Darkhorse makes some good pionts about Avoca and their injuries, not shure if Moser will be back this year. Brook has some injuries, trenthem has some injuries, it's all about what you do with the cattle you have on the park. Just on you last quote that you think talbot are capable of beating Avoca good on you for thinking that mate but I think you may be greatly disapionted especially if your injurie curse continues.
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At the beginning of this discussion I did acknowledge that Avoca were the better side on the day. Talbot has been beaten 3 times this year fair and square I'm just saying that we have had some extreme bad luck with injuries to our top 10 players this year and in both the Avoca and Harcourt games we have been down to 1 onthe bench very early in the game which does hurt you. Of course injuries happen to every club every year, we have all been around long enough to know that. Talbot is having one of it's worst years that I can remember injury-wise and that is why I have chosen to highlight it. Call it whinging if you will.... It's my right as an aussie! :)

I like to be open and transparent on here but prob not my place to reel off all the injuries. We had approx 10 senior players out of the game last weekend that included: Bright, M.Smith, N.Bond, G.Kennedy, Weir, Cunningham, Gibson off the top of my head. We should get a fair few back for Dunolly in two weeks and hopefully we can keep them on the park!

And as someone who doesn't watch much MCDFL footy your tip that we wont beat Avoca doesn't hold much weight with me.
 
The Mighty Maroons said:
Trentham not quite up to the challange!! Well done to the improved Dunolly side who is starting to gel and get the job done, Trentham not the side they they have been cracked up to be by people or what is the story, maybe just a gutsy effort by the eagles??
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Dunolly are to be praised for appointing McNamee at this stage. He was untried and a bit of a risk but seems to be getting the eagles on the right track. I haven't seen Dunolly yet this year but Trentham have pushed some of the top sides and were expected to handle Dunolly.
 
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