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Matthew Warnock
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He can't get a game because we have such a strong backline, and you cant have a defense full of tall key defenders. He'd get a game easily at Essendon.
He can't get a gig because we have Frawley, Garland and Rivers and let's face it, he'd also walk straight into your starting team. The Bombers would be desperate to get a CHB like Warnock. With Warnock holding down CHB Hurley could go forward and let's face it, your forward line is currently not good enough to be labelled terrible.
First round picks have also been devalued this year for obvious reasons.
Are you HONESTLY saying that a 26 yr old who has played 50 games, who is stuck in the VFL, is worth a 1st rd pick ??? God Pies supporters over value their players but you are taking it to a WHOLE NEW LEVEL
Are you HONESTLY saying that a 26 yr old who has played 50 games, who is stuck in the VFL, is worth a 1st rd pick ??? God Pies supporters over value their players but you are taking it to a WHOLE NEW LEVEL
In a normal year he isn't, but this isn't a normal year. GCS's has already taken talent out of the pool and with all their first round picks their value are further weakened.
The other issue is that you're getting stuck on stats, look at how Warnock plays, he'd walk into your team and slot straight into CHB. Are you trying to tell me that someone who is capable of being your best CHB is not worth a first round pick?
IF Warnock was to leave the Demons it would be because HE want's to leave, meaning Melbourne would have limited power at the trade table. And while Warnock would be a SERVICABLE CHB he isn't exactly an AA player is he ........... He is 26 so would be 27 by the time he played his first game, so you would get what 2 or 3 pretty good seasons out of him. You would want A LOT more out of a player you are giving up a 1st rd pick for than that ...............
If Carlton were prepared to give pick 11 for McLean (who wanted to leave the club), then Warnock is easily worth a first rounder.
If Carlton are looking at him, the Dees would probably sniff around someone like Hampson or Jacobs. With Warnock, Kreuzer and these 2 on your list there is an excess of ruckmen that I'm sure you would feel that losing one of these guys in order to get a quality defender would be sufficent. Probably a swap of picks would happen.
Thoughts?
Note: I don't want Warnock gone. Having quality depth is one of the best ways to ensure that players don't become complacent.
Thoughts?
Note: I don't want Warnock gone. Having quality depth is one of the best ways to ensure that players don't become complacent.
Ben the Gooner
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Riiight.
If he can't get a game ahead of Rivers, what hope does he have ahead of Fletcher, Hurley, Pears or Hooker?
Riiiiiiight, your taking about the defence that leaked 10 or 12 goals in a quarter against Carlton, yeah real quality there
(i know you had a couple of those out). Have a look at points against for the year. I'll give you one guess who out of Melbourne and Essendon is last with 2200 against, and whos 7th on 1746 against? Riiiiiiiiiight. Get your facts straight.
Fletcher is almost at the end and having Warnock would mean you'd be able to play Hurley up forward, and let's face it, you need a good key forward.
Warnock would compliment Pears and Hooker very well.
He's not competing against Rivers who plays a different style, he's competing against Frawley and Garland.
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Pass on the first rounder.
I would rather just look into the State Leagues and take a mature aged KPP with a late pick, rather than cough up a first rounder (in what is still a pretty decent, yet diluted, draft).
I would rather just look into the State Leagues and take a mature aged KPP with a late pick, rather than cough up a first rounder (in what is still a pretty decent, yet diluted, draft).
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Probably a fair point there. I have a feeling Carlton will look at trading one of their rucks, considering they've got 4 decent AFL-standard options (Kruezer's injury could force them to hang onto all of them though).
I'd definitely be keen to look at a trade involving Jacobs or Hampson IF Warnock wanted to leave the Dees.
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Carlton will trade Sam Jacobs.
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2nd rounder at best. Demon fans - get your hand off it.
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Yeah Warnock is worth a second rounder that is it. Quality middle of the road KPP, but nothing more.
For those Melbourne supporters drawing comparisons to Mclean a couple of factors are distinguishing here. Firstly, a fit Mclean would of been in your best 22 despite any retrospective disclaimers, Warnock is currently fit but outside your best 22, which is actually a credit to the strength of your backline. Secondly, Mclean was younger which always makes a player a more attractive prospect. Say what you like but that makes the price difference (still think we paid overs on Mclean, but no use crying over spilt milk)
For those Melbourne supporters drawing comparisons to Mclean a couple of factors are distinguishing here. Firstly, a fit Mclean would of been in your best 22 despite any retrospective disclaimers, Warnock is currently fit but outside your best 22, which is actually a credit to the strength of your backline. Secondly, Mclean was younger which always makes a player a more attractive prospect. Say what you like but that makes the price difference (still think we paid overs on Mclean, but no use crying over spilt milk)
A fit McLean? Meanwhile, in other unrelated news there's been reports of a Tasmanian Tiger in Northwest Tasmania...
McLean has been fit for 3 years and it's highly doubtfull whether he ever will be again. As your post is relying on this assumption it makes your argument weak, at best.
The facts are that Warnock would immediately become your starting CHB. Are you trying to tell me that a player like that is not worth your first round pick in a severely weakened draft?
You don't know that so STFU, he'll get his body right eventually, it will just take time.
You don't know that either, but going by his history it doesn't look good.
What evidence do you have to suggest that he will get his body right?
What evidence do you have to suggest he wont? The human body is a weird thing, everyone's is different... he probably wont end up being the player we had hoped when we drafted him, but he'll come good. To say that a 23/24 year old wont recover from a series of injuries is ridiculous... look at Jared Rivers, finally starting to play some good football after a horror run with injuries. Open your eyes and stop being so bias..
Demonheart, could you please stop being so biased and trying to laud it over anyone. I understand McLean is injured and your miles in front of the trade if he stays that way forever. But it may not.
Warnock is a decent shut down defender and its good to have depth but he is hardly AA and is not a kid.
No wonder this draft board is full of trolls and biased posters. Try and be a little more impartial please as you are clearly a big footy fan and have some decent things to say from scanning this forum today.
Warnock is a decent shut down defender and its good to have depth but he is hardly AA and is not a kid.
No wonder this draft board is full of trolls and biased posters. Try and be a little more impartial please as you are clearly a big footy fan and have some decent things to say from scanning this forum today.
Rivers injuries were completely different, McLean's are largely 'impact' type injuries, and as he's not capable of playing as an outside midfielder he's always going to be exposed to having his body smashed on a regular basis.
It's not hard to predict that this trend will continue
Open your eyes and think about the topic.
The topic is about Warnock though. Not you patting yourself on the back about trading Brock and being miles in front from it. It makes this sort of thread rubbish with all the gloating. Carlton are in front in the Fev trade so it makes it okay to bring it up on any thread about Brisbane trading to make myself feel better does it?
