Maynard cleared by tribunal for Brayshaw collision

[Corn Cobbers]

THE AFL has opted against appealing the Tribunal's decision in the Brayden Maynard case, meaning the Collingwood defender is in the clear to play in the Magpies' preliminary final.

AFL ponders rule change after Maynard Tribunal call

The Brayden Maynard saga is officially over after the AFL opted not to appeal the Tribunal's decision

www.afl.com.au

The AFL, having brought the charge against Maynard, said on Wednesday that it would not challenge the Tribunal's ruling, but would comment further later in the day.

"The AFL has confirmed that after careful consideration and review of the Tribunal's decision and reasons following last night's hearing into the incident involving Collingwood's Brayden Maynard and Melbourne's Angus Brayshaw, the AFL has decided not to appeal the Tribunal's decision," a statement read.

"Per the Tribunal Guidelines the AFL had to make this decision by 12:00pm AEST today.

"The AFL will release a further statement later today."

Finally some sanity

 

[demondavey]

3 weeks is the grading. Magpies need to get it to one. Reckon they’ll be hiring the bloke that got George Pell off (pardon the pun).

 

[footy75]

So flipping ridiculous.

How is this even anything.

How can we ever take the Brownlow Medal seriously ever again.

If you tackle or smother with any aggression now you are suspended.
Brownlow is for the best and gentlelist.

It's gone too far.

 

[Kappa]

3 weeks is the grading. Magpies need to get it to one. Reckon they’ll be hiring the bloke that got George Pell off (pardon the pun).

It can't be one.

It's either 3 or 0.

Either you suspend players who go for the footy and accidentally hit someone, or you don't.

 

[mcgarnacle]

So *ing ridiculous.

How is this even anything.

How can we ever take the Brownlow Medal seriously ever again.

If you tackle or smother with any aggression now you are suspended.
Brownlow is for the best and gentlelist.

It's gone too far.

Maynard didn't tackle or smother shit. He jumped and then ploughed his shoulder into the head of an opponent who kicked the ball.

 

[Fadge]

If you read the MRO and Tribunal guidelines it is pretty clear.

The MRO investigates to find cases for consideration. The MRO considers those cases in conjunction with the AFL General Manager, Football Operations(was S Hocking, then B Scott, now L Kane.) They between them decide on any course of action. In other words the more senior of the two has the final say in all MRO cases.

So in effect EVERY MRO decision HAS TO reflect the position of the General Manager Football Operations. We have never had any certain idea what Christian's position is in any given case because they obviously don't as a matter of course announce when he has been over-ruled. The few occasions it has been leaked I am sure this has been done by agreement between the parties.

So people should be clear, whilst Christian holds the title of MRO, he is not ultimately responsible for MRO decisions and he does not have the final say over any MRO decision. He is basically the MRO investigator. This is partially why I was jumping up and down about Hocking and Brad Scott's clear conflicts of interests in relation to cases that impacted Geelong. Conflict of interest principles are also why Christian should have had no involvement with this case, he should have stood aside as much to protect his own reputation and friendships etc as anything.

So as per my other post, what are some historical examples of the MRO being overruled by the GM Footy Ops?

 

[Fadge]

In the article below, Ray Chamberlain explains about free kick downfield adjudications.

AFL umpire Ray Chamberlain clarifies downfield free kick ruling

“He’s got a duty of care to not knock him to ground."

www.sen.com.au

What relevance does adjudication of free kicks down the ground with an incident that allegedly sees a player suspended for 3 weeks?

 

[Fadge]

Not sure if I agree with this. But I think Maynard will get suspended initially.

They willl say that he was not entitled to jump to spoil with complete disregard to Brayshaws health. Once he had jumped in the air and lost control, he was liable for any damage caused to Brayshaw. I believe this was the angle taken in the Mansell suspension.

If a player chooses to bump another player and result in contact with the head, absolutely the player is liable.

But not sure it is written anywhere that if a player 'jumps' (to spoil, take a mark, etc.) and causes contact to the head, they are liable for any contact to an opposition player's head.

 

[Sarcoidevo]

Barnyard should have used his hands on Brayshaw and not his shoulder to stop his reckless momentum

 

[Fadge]

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/brayden-maynard-sent-directly-to-the-afl-tribunal-over-hit-on-angus-brayshaw/news-story/5450f442ef24d0d67181ba11434b3e42

Hmmm, so it appears Laura Kane's 'intervention' is indeed 'unprecedented'...

 

[pebblesofsand]

I feel like people are somehow talking around the fact that a player who didn’t have the ball got shouldered in the head and knocked unconscious.

It doesn’t really matter what Maynard was trying to do, he made a bunch of decisions that led to him thombstoning his shoulder into a defenceless guys face.

He could have been trying to do the Hokey Pokey for all it matters, the fact is he shouldered someone in the head and knocked them out, and they couldn’t play the rest of the game, and likely the next 2 weeks cause of his actions.

Yep - for all those saying it was a "football action" , I have one simple question.

Was the ump right in paying a downfield free kick?

After you say yes then the incident is "careless conduct, severe impact and high contact" - 3 weeks.

 

[gordo2016]

What's this game coming to? He tried to smother and it was totally accidental. Martin goes the cheap shot, give him two weeks. Maynard has nothing to answer.

 

[Fadge]

Yep - for all those saying it was a "football action" , I have one simple question.

Was the ump right in paying a downfield free kick?

After you say yes then the incident is "careless conduct, severe impact and high contact" - 3 weeks.

Should all players get reported for a downfield free kick?

 

[Geelong_Bisons_#36]

IMO it had to go to the tribunal because the MRP are too useless to come up with a decision on this. It will be left to the lawyers to argue this out.
Get knocked out with a knee to the head in a marking contest - no case to answer.
Get knocked out by a shoulder in a smothering attempt - straight to the tribunal.
It's not an even playing field

 

[pebblesofsand]

Should all players get reported for a downfield free kick?

Only when the contact is careless, severe and high.

Maynard was careless, the impact on Brayshaw was severe and the contact was high.

Haven't you read the tribunal guidelines?

 

[GoPies1]

Yep - for all those saying it was a "football action" , I have one simple question.

Was the ump right in paying a downfield free kick?

After you say yes then the incident is "careless conduct, severe impact and high contact" - 3 weeks.

The umpires in this series so far have been atrocious.
Judging based on their actions is absolutely the wrong way to go.

 

[Osho]

If a player chooses to bump another player and result in contact with the head, absolutely the player is liable.

But not sure it is written anywhere that if a player 'jumps' (to spoil, take a mark, etc.) and causes contact to the head, they are liable for any contact to an opposition player's head.

I think the interpretation is that jumping does not remove liability, if anything, it adds to carelessness by removing options - can't change directions mid air when he sees Bradshaw's new position. Added to this is the turning of the shoulder into the head, done to protect himself, sure, but endangering Brayshaw. What instigated this all was choosing to jump, thus losing control, carelessness. The second action, turning the shoulder, enhanced impact. Has to be a sanction imo. Clear as day.

 

[PowerBaz]

What's this game coming to? He tried to smother and it was totally accidental. Martin goes the cheap shot, give him two weeks. Maynard has nothing to answer.

This is a good example of trying to smother head on without killing the bloke.

Maynard made no such movement.

 

[maskmcgee]

Yep - for all those saying it was a "football action" , I have one simple question.

Was the ump right in paying a downfield free kick?

After you say yes then the incident is "careless conduct, severe impact and high contact" - 3 weeks.

So every single high contact free kick in history has resulted in that player being cited by the MRO? How are you able to breathe when you're that dumb?

 

[maskmcgee]

So as per my other post, what are some historical examples of the MRO being overruled by the GM Footy Ops?

Wasn't that Adelaide player who broke that St. Kilda player's jaw also dismissed by the MRO but the AFL forced him to send it to the tribunal?

 

[London Pie]

This is a good example of trying to smother head on without killing the bloke.

Maynard made no such movement.

In this one you can see WHE maneuvers his body to avoid contact which unfortunately Brayshaw didn’t

 

[Maddo11]

I've changed my tune.
2 weeks will be enough penalty. It's collingwood.
Fck em.

Nah 3, so he can miss the prelim then rounds 1 & 2..

 

[Worm4]

Should all players get reported for a downfield free kick?

You're intelligence is shining through here

 

[FIGJAM]

Yeah but the frame after that he tucks his shoulder in and drops it downwards. Why not just extend your arms from that point and “push” him away

In watched it live from the side.

Maynard had zero opportunity to even think about what to do next, let alone brace for a shoulder to the head. He did all he could to protect Brayshaw in what was a footy act.

 

[demondavey]

So *ing ridiculous.

How is this even anything.

How can we ever take the Brownlow Medal seriously ever again.

If you tackle or smother with any aggression now you are suspended.
Brownlow is for the best and gentlelist.

It's gone too far.

Tell that to Angus Brayshaw, his season is over because of Maynard absolutely smashing him. Since when does a player follow through like that after attempting a smother and deck someone?

 

[demondavey]

In watched it live from the side.

Maynard had zero opportunity to even think about what to do next, let alone brace for a shoulder to the head. He did all he could to protect Brayshaw in what was a footy act.

Not sure how he protected him. If Sicily got 3 weeks then Maynard deserves 4.