Maynard cleared by tribunal for Brayshaw collision

[Corn Cobbers]

THE AFL has opted against appealing the Tribunal's decision in the Brayden Maynard case, meaning the Collingwood defender is in the clear to play in the Magpies' preliminary final.

AFL ponders rule change after Maynard Tribunal call

The Brayden Maynard saga is officially over after the AFL opted not to appeal the Tribunal's decision

www.afl.com.au

The AFL, having brought the charge against Maynard, said on Wednesday that it would not challenge the Tribunal's ruling, but would comment further later in the day.

"The AFL has confirmed that after careful consideration and review of the Tribunal's decision and reasons following last night's hearing into the incident involving Collingwood's Brayden Maynard and Melbourne's Angus Brayshaw, the AFL has decided not to appeal the Tribunal's decision," a statement read.

"Per the Tribunal Guidelines the AFL had to make this decision by 12:00pm AEST today.

"The AFL will release a further statement later today."

Finally some sanity

 

[keithrichards]

OK. So let's outlaw 'jumping' on the football field now.

Do you realise how ridiculous you sound?

It doesn’t sound as ridiculous as your strawman argument….

 

[demondavey]

Not sure if this has been posted here yet, I saw it on reddit. Supposedly shows Brayshaw copping a head knock prior to the incident with Maynard. Not sure if it would impact the tribunal's decision. (Ignore the play button, it's a still image)

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Don’t see how. If you start making judgements about other incidents without medical opinion or intervention to undermine a malicious act then you become even more complacent if you say the Brayshaw injury was exacerbated because he got ‘injured’ earlier. Particularly when he wasn’t taken off for the first one.

This image is actually worse for Maynard, his arms are tucking in and doesn’t even make an attempt to shift left or right. It’s pretty bad.

 

[CobberRodgers]

Not sure how he protected him. If Sicily got 3 weeks then Maynard deserves 4.

The AFL have backed themselves into a corner here.

No chance someone should miss a GF for a football act/bracing for contact, just like no one should have missed games for football acts this season, but if he gets off then what does that say about all of the other putrid suspensions this year?

Going to be very interesting watching this play out to be honest.

 

[420]

The cheer leading for Maynard from the commentators was disgusting , it’s like they haven’t progressed from the seventies when thuggery on the footy field was ok, since when do you try and smother the ball and KO the bloke.

The commentary all night was a disgrace. Couldn't hang JVR out to dry quick enough but good guy bruzzy I mean it's a football accident!!!!1

 

[Demons09]

The AFL have backed themselves into a corner here.

No chance someone should miss a GF for a football act/bracing for contact, just like no one should have missed games for football acts this season, but if he gets off then what does that say about all of the other putrid suspensions this year?

Going to be very interesting watching this play out to be honest.

That’s your opinion in my view he had every intention of taking Brayshaw out.

 

[Fadge]

Outlaw?
I think your getting hysterical.

I'm not the one who wrote 'jumping does not reduce liability, it adds to the carelessness by removing options...'

 

[Fadge]

It doesn’t sound as ridiculous as your strawman argument….

Yeah, outlawing jumping in football not ridiculous...

My 'strawman argument', which is?

 

[Fadge]

Don’t see how. If you start making judgements about other incidents without medical opinion or intervention to undermine a malicious act then you become even more complacent if you say the Brayshaw injury was exacerbated because he got ‘injured’ earlier. Particularly when he wasn’t taken off for the first one.

This image is actually worse for Maynard, his arms are tucking in and doesn’t even make an attempt to shift left or right. It’s pretty bad.

Wow. So it's now a MALICIOUS ACT?

 

[JackFlash]

Interesting.

What do you mean by international rules?

No contact or very little...tackling will be scaled down to not bringing a player to ground and no acts that will endanger the opposition player, how they will wittle all this down and still call it Aussie Rules is the mystery. The game will look very different by 2030.

 

[CobberRodgers]

That’s your opinion in my view he had every intention of taking Brayshaw out.

He may well have, I can’t be sure though. Bracing for contact is ingrained into these blokes that have trained and played that way since they grew up. This doesn’t mean I’m making a definitive decision on what he did, or what he intended to do, so don’t take it as that.

What I do know is that football acts have been penalised all year, so based on that, I can’t see him getting off.

There’s been a lot over the last 2 years I don’t see as suspension worthy, but blokes have missed games for.

 

[CobberRodgers]

No contact or very little...tackling will be scaled down to not bringing a player to ground and no acts that will endanger the opposition player, how they will wittle all this down and still call it Aussie Rules is the mystery. The game will look very different by 2030.

Good post.

You can already see the start of the “not bringing player to ground” in tackling.

How the rules fit in around the player protection movement and also the players play the game in this new era is going to be interesting to watch.

Old footy is gone, welcome to new footy.

 

[takethepowerback]

No his intention was to get the ball, not to mark it, but to smother it. He still was going for the ball

How do you not see there's two actions in this? 1) the attempt at the smother, i.e running front on arms in the air, and 2) the bump or brace for contact, when he turns side on. It's not one action. It's not disputed he turns side on. The question is, whether that was a) to protect himself b)make contact and make Brayshaw earn it, and ultimately, either way, whether he did enough to protect Brayshaw..

 

[Demons09]

He may well have, I can’t be sure though. Bracing for contact is ingrained into these blokes that have trained and played that way since they grew up. This doesn’t mean I’m making a definitive decision on what he did, or what he intended to do, so don’t take it as that.

What I do know is that football acts have been penalised all year, so based on that, I can’t see him getting off.

There’s been a lot over the last 2 years I don’t see as suspension worthy, but blokes have missed games for.

That’s the problem mate no consistency in any decisions the tribunal make, i guess that’s why nobody knows what the outcome in this incident will be.

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

What you are missing here is the illegality of making any forceful contact with a player after he has disposed of the ball. It is outside the rules of the game, doesn't matter how when where or why. Flying for a mark legitimately is not outside the rules of the game.

Unless it is deemed that Brayshaw caused that contact to occur then Maynard has to be gone. He has committed an act outside the rules of the game then also concussed the opponent. Much like if you concussed an opponent with a head high tackle or sling tackle.

The questions the Tribunal will ask are all around intent. Was he careless? In the absence of any evidence to show he took due care to avoid the late contact then the answer has to be yes. Did he have any reasonable alternative? Given about a hundred players per week navigate that situation without making forceful late contact with the opponent,

Is jumping to smother outside the rules of the game because you might come down and hit someones head? Sad if true. Unfortunately this was just a freak accident. Once he left the ground there was almost nothing he could do. He braced and put his hands out to protect Brayshaw but Angus' motion carried him into Brayden's shoulder. Might as well not play the game anymore if this sort of act is deamed illegal. There is so much more mallace in putting your knees into the back of someones head when in a marking contest.

 

[sherb]

I’ve literally never seen anything like that. Never seen a player get smashed front on like that when someone is attempting to smother. The reason I’ve never seen that is because it doesn’t happen in a natural motion, it’s also unnecessary.

Neither have I. But, yeah, "football act" according to many.

Pie supporters chanting while Brayshaw is unconscious and taken off not to mention constant cheering of Maynard shows their true colours as well. Any other supporter base would be respectful of an injured player.

There has been a Collingwood poster here repeatedly trying to put a significant part of the blame for this incident onto Brayshaw. They are a different breed, that's for sure.

The irony is, of course, if Nick Daicos (for example) had been on the receiving end of this "smothering attempt" and had been concussed also, their supporter base would be going absolutely feral and would equally absolutely be calling for the offender's blood.

 

[demondavey]

Neither have I. But, yeah, "football act" according to many.

There has been a Collingwood poster here repeatedly trying to put a significant part of the blame for this incident onto Brayshaw. They are a different breed, that's for sure.

The irony is, of course, if Nick Daicos (for example) had been on the receiving end of this "smothering attempt" and had been concussed also, their supporter base would be going absolutely feral and absolutely calling for the offender's blood.

Correct. Not a football act at all. And yes, they are feral and would be going bananas if Daicos got smashed.

 

[demondavey]

Wow. So it's now a MALICIOUS ACT?

Yeah. It was. Totally unnecessary to smash Brayshaw like that.

 

[Osho]

I'm not the one who wrote 'jumping does not reduce liability, it adds to the carelessness by removing options...'

Sure does. After a hit to the head that you want to be regarded as legal, nothing to see, because he jumped into the player. Jumping into a player alleviates all liability, apparently. It's different to running into a player.

 

[Fadge]

Correct. Not a football act at all. And yes, they are feral and would be going bananas if Daicos got smashed.

Most of us can have a balanced view on incidents, regardless of the teams involved.

 

[Fadge]

Sure does. After a hit to the head that you want to be regarded as legal, nothing to see, because he jumped into the player. Jumping into a player alleviates all liability, apparently. It's different to running into a player.

So you're doubling down on your ridiculousness.

 

[demondavey]

Most of us can have a balanced view on incidents, regardless of the teams involved.

Haha, rubbish. Total rubbish. If Petracca did that to Daicos you’d be arguing for a public hanging.

 

[demondavey]

So you're doubling down on your ridiculousness.

Weren’t you just talking about balanced views? You even seen someone take a player out whilst trying to smother?

 

[Chism]

Most of us can have a balanced view on incidents, regardless of the teams involved.

This is post of the year material!!

 

[Coasters7]

In watched it live from the side.

Maynard had zero opportunity to even think about what to do next, let alone brace for a shoulder to the head. He did all he could to protect Brayshaw in what was a footy act.

Yeah obviously all happened very quickly but I’m not sure he did try to protect Brayshaw.

He looked like he just tucked his shoulder in and let it happen. Full gravity force downwards with shoulder impact. Definitely had an opportunity to land with his arms outstretched to soften the blow but just went “dead fish” straight downwards, full weight, full force.

Imo he went into that contest to make Brayshaw earn it. Hence why his instinctive reaction was to tuck the shoulder in when impact was imminent. If he’d gone in only looking to get the ball I think we would have seen more of a tangle of limbs on the way down instead of the brick wall hit we got.

 

[Osho]

So you're doubling down on your ridiculousness.

You're disingenuous. He jumped into oppo, hitting his head with his shoulder. After turning the shoulder into his head.