McCarthy goes home

[clivenator26]

I honestly dont care anymore. Its just funny watching you lot pretend you actually care about him and not that you want a fwd on the cheap. Bet if the shoe was on the other foot you would scream from the hilltops. Funny gooses out west.

If the club really want to be dicks we can hold him till the trade period at the end of 2017 or he goes psd.

They won't, but just saying.

Do you actually think if this was a Melbourne born kid playing at Port Adelaide but wanting to go to Carlton the fans of the respective teams would act any differently?

Similarly if the Essendon scandal had happened to Collingwood, Richmond, Brisbane or Geelong then there would be #standbyhird types making themselves look like geese. Every footy club fan base is almost identical, very few are objective 100% of the time.

Most Freo fans would love to get Cam on the cheap, of course we would, just as Collingwood tried to get Aish cheaply, but there would be a fair few people of all clubs that want to see a kid happy & understand that- yes he is stupid for extending his contract but people make mistakes and can change their mind.

A few Geelong & St Kilda fans in this thread I daresay may not be as prolific on the posts if the destination club in this situation was not Fremantle.

 

[Marc_Remillard]

I think it would absurd/shameful for Mcarthy and his management to feign mental health issues as a way out of the contract.

If it is legitimate, let's hope it isn't, then the boy should follow Mitch Clarke's behaviour, tell the club he cannot fulfil his contract obligations, refuse a pay cheque and walk away from the game and heal in a timeframe suitable for such an illness.

It will appalling and an affront to those who genuinely suffer from mental health issues if this is one giant rouse to get him home after making a decision to extend a contract and then want to renege once the ink had dried.

Refuse a pay cheque? I wish. No, sadly that didn't happen, he did manipulate the system to get where he wanted though using mental health in the process.

 

[im_a_lazy_sod]

I wouldn't like it if we ended up with McCarthy with his contract being terminated or anything similar to how Geelong ended up with Clark (after announcing retirement etc.). At the end of the day he is still contracted to GWS and if they aren't budging on his contract, then I'm fine with that, but I think when serious player welfare or personal issues arise then I think there should be some give from the club involved (Freo let Roberton go a few years back as his girlfriend was pregnant and wanted to be with her family back in Victoria, with Dylan by her side)

 

[Colonial]

Do you actually think if this was a Melbourne born kid playing at Port Adelaide but wanting to go to Carlton the fans of the respective teams would act any differently?

Similarly if the Essendon scandal had happened to Collingwood, Richmond, Brisbane or Geelong then there would be #standbyhird types making themselves look like geese. Every footy club fan base is almost identical, very few are objective 100% of the time.

Most Freo fans would love to get Cam on the cheap, of course we would, just as Collingwood tried to get Aish cheaply, but there would be a fair few people of all clubs that want to see a kid happy & understand that- yes he is stupid for extending his contract but people make mistakes and can change their mind.

A few Geelong & St Kilda fans in this thread I daresay may not be as prolific on the posts if the destination club in this situation was not Fremantle.

Meh. Probably not but the other major trade we have been a part of this year have been fairly good.

The treloar trade, surprising the hell out of me, was pretty good between us and collingwood.

Thats right. Pies fans were better equiped to discuss and banter. Yep surpised me to.

 

[ParapMarkets]

It's hard to be critical when there is mental health issues involved, but I find it hard to have any sympathy for McCarthy. Too many players these days place no value on the contract they wilfully signed. I still think GWS took the right stance and I wonder how much of this "homesickness" is being influenced by missing out on the extra dollars that Freo were offering? I get the feeling his manager was giving him the impression he would get the deal done.

I also think the media campaign his manager orchestrated didn't help young Cam's chances either, alienated them from the club.

 

[Mr Commissioner]

Refuse a pay cheque? I wish. No, sadly that didn't happen, he did manipulate the system to get where he wanted though using mental health in the process.

I guess Clarke walking off the ground and inconsolable after a win & being unable to motivate himself to play for Geelong in the latter part of season 2015 was manipulation as well....

 

[gillo94]

It's hard to be critical when there is mental health issues involved, but I find it hard to have any sympathy for McCarthy. Too many players these days place no value on the contract they wilfully signed. I still think GWS took the right stance and I wonder how much of this "homesickness" is being influenced by missing out on the extra dollars that Freo were offering? I get the feeling his manager was giving him the impression he would get the deal done.

I also think the media campaign his manager orchestrated didn't help young Cam's chances either, alienated them from the club.

McCarthy is a cry baby. Made a commitment with GWS and now backing out of it. GWS and Northern teams need as you said to make that stance, create a precedent

AFL should enforce a penalty to players, banning them a year out of the game if leave under these circumstances

 

[Suma Magic]

I wouldn't like it if we ended up with McCarthy with his contract being terminated or anything similar to how Geelong ended up with Clark (after announcing retirement etc.). At the end of the day he is still contracted to GWS and if they aren't budging on his contract, then I'm fine with that, but I think when serious player welfare or personal issues arise then I think there should be some give from the club involved (Freo let Roberton go a few years back as his girlfriend was pregnant and wanted to be with her family back in Victoria, with Dylan by her side)

Clark was traded. He wasn't a DFA.

 

[nineteen eighty]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...t/news-story/69c6fb58c2bc6933b192659e78852fc6

The 193cm forward has been struggling with anxiety-related issues, but is understood to be physically strong after putting weight back on that he lost during a stressful trade period last October.

Stressful trade period...

Or possibly just getting on it through the off season and not having much of a hunger whilst "enjoying" himself post season??

 

[Struggle]

One change I would make is that when a contracted player requests a trade, the terms of the current contract stand. If the trade to Freo went through, have him only be able to receive the amount that GWS would have paid him over that period of time. It would suddenly stop a lot of the 'homesickness' going around(not that this is a case of wanting out just for money)

 

[Freomaniac]

McCarthy is a cry baby. Made a commitment with GWS and now backing out of it. GWS and Northern teams need as you said to make that stance, create a precedent
AFL should enforce a penalty to players, banning them a year out of the game if leave under these circumstances

A carlton fan talking about morals? Now I have heard it all! Not ok Freo pillaging GWS but its Fine for Carlton pillaging teams in the 1970s and 1980s. Yeah seems ok here on bigfooty.

 

[Colonial]

A carlton fan talking about morals? Now I have heard it all! Not ok Freo pillaging GWS but its Fine for Carlton pillaging teams in the 1970s and 1980s. Yeah seems ok here on bigfooty.

So because someone else does it its ok? Hmmm me thinks you wouldnt do well in a court of law.

 

[Kram]

A carlton fan talking about morals? Now I have heard it all! Not ok Freo pillaging GWS but its Fine for Carlton pillaging teams in the 1970s and 1980s. Yeah seems ok here on bigfooty.

I think that was all before Gillo was born.

 

[gillo94]

A carlton fan talking about morals? Now I have heard it all! Not ok Freo pillaging GWS but its Fine for Carlton pillaging teams in the 1970s and 1980s. Yeah seems ok here on bigfooty.

I'm thinking more about GWS and Brisbane and Gold Coast who have to deal with the issue of players requesting trades with no consideration of their contracts even after assuring a club they are fine with moving interstate. Where does this stop? You have to agree with me that AFL has to step in to stop this from continuing to happen

Should players and player agents continue to dictate where players end up and who they play for and not play for? I guarantee you do not have a argument for that. Best move on and don't interrupt

 

[Stevi_Tigers]

but of course he is home sick has nothing to do with not getting freo's godfather deal this year. ****ing pathetic should have to sit out next year

 

[Stevi_Tigers]

freo come across as clowns in this. they offered 2 late first's or early seconds if they wanted him as bad as the $ there offering they should of got gws an earlier pick in the draft.

 

[Kram]

lol.

 

[Freo]

lol.

What a daft thread. So much shite flung at Freo. Here's the thing, he is a contracted GWS player. Freo made an offer to trade with GWS who refused to make the deal. This was their right and just as it should be.
The rest of it has nothing to do with Freo. Simple.
As said by the sane posters on this thread, the young man's welfare is the most important issue here. I hope he recovers and honours his contract with the Giants, playing some good footy.

 

[javaguice]

God speed with ur recovery Cameron we are all behind u in beating these evil demons

 

[Colonial]

What a daft thread. So much shite flung at Freo. Here's the thing, he is a contracted GWS player. Freo made an offer to trade with GWS who refused to make the deal. This was their right and just as it should be.
The rest of it has nothing to do with Freo. Simple.
As said by the sane posters on this thread, the young man's welfare is the most important issue here. I hope he recovers and honours his contract with the Giants, playing some good footy.

Really?
No offer was made according to some fellow freo fans on here. Including kram i think.

Anyway it isnt on freo the club. Their fans are acting all high and mighty (yeah you really just care about his welfare hahaha) but the club did nothing wrong.
Young on the other hand is scum.

 

[hench]

His face annoys me.

 

[ManOfClay]

I'm thinking more about GWS and Brisbane and Gold Coast who have to deal with the issue of players requesting trades with no consideration of their contracts even after assuring a club they are fine with moving interstate. Where does this stop? You have to agree with me that AFL has to step in to stop this from continuing to happen

Should players and player agents continue to dictate where players end up and who they play for and not play for? I guarantee you do not have a argument for that. Best move on and don't interrupt

Nobody has to agree with you Gillo. Most intelligent people don't.


Why would the AFL "have" to step in? It's a matter between clubs and players, the AFL isn't there to dictate who can and can't be traded.

It's for that reason the Sydney trade ban was so ludicrous.

 

[gillo94]

Nobody has to agree with you Gillo. Most intelligent people don't.


Why would the AFL "have" to step in? It's a matter between clubs and players, the AFL isn't there to dictate who can and can't be traded.

It's for that reason the Sydney trade ban was so ludicrous.

Your not even making sense
2 complete different scenarios. Sydney were never facing issues of players requesting trades interstate, issue they had was AFL removing their COLA. Only way AFL thought could assist Sydney was give them trade bans so they can accomodate their salary cap issues down the track. AFL stepped in to help not to hinder

As I said bring a proper argument next time

 

[ManOfClay]

Your not even making sense
2 complete different scenarios. Sydney were never facing issues of players requesting trades interstate, issue they had was AFL removing their COLA. Only way AFL thought could assist Sydney was give them trade bans so they can accomodate their salary cap issues down the track. AFL stepped in to help not to hinder

As I said bring a proper argument next time

You've missed the point.

The AFL should not be meddling in club business. It's restraint of trade. Do you know what that means?

 

[gillo94]

You've missed the point.

The AFL should not be meddling in club business. It's restraint of trade. Do you know what that means?

It's an issue that is getting out of hand. How are Brisbane and GWS suppose to move forward if a lot of their first round picks are leaving every year

Brisbane lost Polec, Longer, Docherty, Yeo. All first rounders and get second round picks in return. What is your solution there?

GWS lose Tom Boyd, after 1 season and now Cam McCarthy for sure later this year both taken same draft year. Lost Treloar last year one of their top mids