McLeod doesn't feel like past players are welcome at the Crows

[Runnin Blue]

This is going to be one of those things where you just pretend that you're doing well and aren't at all embarrassing yourself in public for pages at end, isn't it?

I come up with my own words and thoughts. I’m not the one that should be embarrassed, to be honest.

 

[Southerntakeover]

I come up with my own words and thoughts. I’m not the one that should be embarrassed, to be honest.

Do you really though? There's no way that your weirdly disproportionate and unhinged response is a conditioned response born from your own hackneyed tribalism is there?

The edgy 'individual thinker' who just happens to get dementedly angry if he recognises anything at all that he associates with the left, whether or not its being used in that context (in this instance, just a phrase used to describe an action) is one of the most common, and least interesting, political tropes of the last decade.

But yeah, you're a super rare rebel going against the grain. Of course you are. Some real original thought.

 

[Runnin Blue]

Do you really though? There's no way that your weirdly disproportionate and unhinged response is a conditioned response born from your own hackneyed tribalism is there?

The edgy 'individual thinker' who just happens to get dementedly angry if he recognises anything at all that he associates with the left, whether or not its being used in that context (in this instance, just a phrase used to describe an action) is one of the most common, and least interesting, political tropes of the last decade.

But yeah, you're a super rare rebel going against the grain. Of course you are. Some real original thought.

Getting mocked for being an “individual thinker”...

Only on the internet, lol.

I think we have derailed this thread enough, my robotic friend. So, let us let byboops be byboops.

 

[Red mist]

Not sure if this has been discussed elsewhere



McLeod saying that the club doesn't embrace past players. If he feels this way with the work he still does at the club, imagine how the rest of our past players feel. An indictment on the club admin.

He can stuff as hard a ball of emotion as the Edwards clan. Sneak up beside and overtake is old paint chip miniscaff Rowe. You don’t hear the crowd yell harder to put that to bed.

 

[jackster83]

Not sure how everyone else feels about the McLeod situation, but in my opinion no player, current or past, is bigger than the club. Full stop.

Sure it’s fine to shower past players with admiration and adulation, but some people put them ahead of club interests and have them at Demi-god status. The club has that status, no one else.

Seems it's okay for Roo to act like that though.

He unequivocally told people to piss off and go support another club when they were questioning the admin of the club.

Anyone who has a disagreement with him or his minions gets kicked to the kerb.

 

[Mong]

While McLeod and the club may have severed ties in that he is no longer a paid employee I refuse to concede McLeod's relationship to the club as a former player and club legend has changed one bit. Maybe that's naive but "severed all ties" seems like sensationalist reporting to imply more than just employment.

 

[Golumless]

While McLeod and the club may have severed ties in that he is no longer a paid employee I refuse to concede McLeod's relationship to the club as a former player and club legend has changed one bit. Maybe that's naive but "severed all ties" seems like sensationalist reporting to imply more than just employment.

It might have, its not inconceivable that us defunding the indigenous program ended up creating a permanent, or near permanent fracture between us and Andrew. Justifiably too, seeing it is his passion.

Could be our version of "don't go into business with family".

 

[Sanders]

The funding doesn't exist anymore and other clubs are doing the same.

We absolutely should be doing charitable activity and we should be ensuring the club is as accepting of indigenous players as possible.

Realistically, this seems to all come back to the fact that McLeod and his wife were probably pulling in $300k or so a year in salary from their role with the foundation. That now doesn't exist, and he's frustrated.

I'm not sure where "the club is slagging him off" stuff comes from. It's always seemed like we've gone out of our way to accommodate him, even when he wasn't making it easy to do.

(Edit - just read Southerntakeover's post. I think it's naive to not acknowledge that McLeod hasn't at times made situations worse. You can believe there should be statue of him outside Adelaide Oval and still think that).

David Penberthy’s column utterly slagging him off was the club feeding its narrative their to world

 

[BunjiMac]

The funding doesn't exist anymore and other clubs are doing the same.

We absolutely should be doing charitable activity and we should be ensuring the club is as accepting of indigenous players as possible.

Realistically, this seems to all come back to the fact that McLeod and his wife were probably pulling in $300k or so a year in salary from their role with the foundation. That now doesn't exist, and he's frustrated.

I'm not sure where "the club is slagging him off" stuff comes from. It's always seemed like we've gone out of our way to accommodate him, even when he wasn't making it easy to do.

(Edit - just read Southerntakeover's post. I think it's naive to not acknowledge that McLeod hasn't at times made situations worse. You can believe there should be statue of him outside Adelaide Oval and still think that).

So you are insinuating that the funding received for this entire program is going straight to the McLeods pockets?

I find this kind of laughable personally.

Anyone who's ever tried to put similar programs together would know that 300k does not go very far, especially considering the travel and distances involved. Was there also an entire carnival the program put together bringing in kids from all over the place?

To be making suggestions that this is the reason or that the McLeods were pocketing this amount is nothing more than having a dig at his character, again.

Whatever you think is the reason, let's all be clear that that is not one of them.

 

[1970crow]

Jesus Christ, he's pissed off because he lost a very well paid position in a foundation named after him after the grant support dried up.

We couldn't afford to keep underwriting his funding and he feels that means we don't want him around anymore. That we've been disrespectful to him.

Why do we feel the need to pretend this is about something else?

So you're saying he's a money hungry grub?

 

[1970crow]

Then go support another team


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You can love the list and cheer the jumper but identify Admin weaknesses at the same time. Some of us are angry at the admin arm because they hamstring the football arm. Then there's those that barrack for admin. I bet you've got Fagan and Chapman on your duffel coat. What's their numbers again, it's escaped me.

 

[1970crow]

I’ve heard rumors for a while that there’s enormous question marks over the running of the Centre of Excellence program. Particularly over management of the financials.

So the club is accusing him of stealing while knowing about it now? This escalated quickly.

 

[1970crow]

And Yet the Crows have turned over 80% of the people he would have an issue with,
To me, this story is OLD, A reporter sitting at home has come up with a feature clickbait piece base on Macca article in June, and the closing down of his Program well before June, then he adds the fact he not spending a couple of Hours a week assisting the AFLW team,

To me its The Media looking for a story and were been suck in like sheep.
Crows supporters are turning into suckers and the media playing us. And yes we are being Played.
What I find interesting is "Neither the club nor McLeod would speak or could be contacted about the split this week"

If this was Port there supporters would be all over the media demanding better, blaming the media, in fact, most other AFL clubs supporters would be doing the same.

this article is an insult to Macca. and the Crows, and assume's all Crows supporters are sheep,

No they haven't. He identified "senior management" as the issue. Thats not footy dept, he's referring to board and Fraudan.

 

[Thetrader15]

It might have, its not inconceivable that us defunding the indigenous program ended up creating a permanent, or near permanent fracture between us and Andrew. Justifiably too, seeing it is his passion.

Could be our version of "don't go into business with family".

Have we actually defunded it or are we looking to replace McLeod in the role? I'd hope we aren't removing it all together, but can replace McLeod with 2 or 3 lesser names who can do more for less.

 

[1970crow]

If I remember correctly, I reckon Rod Jameson made some questionable comments about McLeod when he first aired his criticism.

And Roo.

 

[Thetrader15]

So you are insinuating that the funding received for this entire program is going straight to the McLeods pockets?

I find this kind of laughable personally.

Anyone who's ever tried to put similar programs together would know that 300k does not go very far, especially considering the travel and distances involved. Was there also an entire carnival the program put together bringing in kids from all over the place?

To be making suggestions that this is the reason or that the McLeods were pocketing this amount is nothing more than having a dig at his character, again.

Whatever you think is the reason, let's all be clear that that is not one of them.

Have heard that $300k is a loooong way off.

 

[SaltPeter]

Have we actually defunded it or are we looking to replace McLeod in the role? I'd hope we aren't removing it all together, but can replace McLeod with 2 or 3 lesser names who can do more for less.

Someone else posted that the program was receiving federal govt funding until 2018. The club chose to keep the program running and funded it themselves until CoVid struck, shutting it down. Maybe when the dust settles and football returns to normal the club may revisit the program?

 

[1970crow]

Bit sad we've moved on, but it's probably best for both parties if we're unable to fund the indigenous program in the near future.

Definitely much better burn the $ earned by our football arm on baseball, production company and eSports.

 

[1970crow]

David Penberthy’s column utterly slagging him off was the club feeding its narrative their to world

That's just what they do. Just recently the club let it slip that Brad Crouch

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is such a bad egg that the AFL refused to allow a trade between us and Gold Coast last year for pick 11.

 

[Thetrader15]

Someone else posted that the program was receiving federal govt funding until 2018. The club chose to keep the program running and funded it themselves until CoVid struck, shutting it down. Maybe when the dust settles and football returns to normal the club may revisit the program?

I'd be very disappointed if the AFL allowed this type of program to be discontinued and players only take a 3% pay cut.

 

[Southerntakeover]

So you're saying he's a money hungry grub?

And that he's basically a liar who's made things up.

 

[Southerntakeover]

So the club is accusing him of stealing while knowing about it now? This escalated quickly.

And is getting into territory where it's not just actionable, but that a person might feel the need to enforce their rights to defend their reputation from this sort of putrid disgraceful smear.

What a disgrace, the things people will say without evidence against our greatest hero.

 

[WeedsMullet84]

Definitely much better burn the $ earned by our football arm on baseball, production company and eSports.

Weren’t they making a profit, or does that not fit your narrative?


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[ad victoriam]

Wait I am curious where and when Has the Club accused Macca of Stealing or doing something not correctly,
If there was any form of accuracy One would think having a High Ranking Police Office, Bankers, and Lawyer's on the Board any problems of that nature would have been found out and dealt with ages ago.

Again where is this story coming from,

 

[cm_perfect]

Wait I am curious where and when Has the Club accused Macca of Stealing or doing something not correctly,
If there was any form of accuracy One would think having a High Ranking Police Office, Bankers, and Lawyer's on the Board any problems of that nature would have been found out and dealt with ages ago.

Again where is this story coming from,

From what I can tell from multiple threads is that the AFC has a group of “plants” that they insert into social media platforms to spread the good word.

I think they call themselves the Anti Agitators