Medhurst finished second last to Rocca in the time trials...good luck if he wants a midfield spot..

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It can be subjective though, perhaps Medhurst needs time to get used to his new environment, these time trials happened at the very beginning of pre season.

Let's see what happens before making some further assessment - I'd say he deserves it.
 
If it is true then it is a concern. Even if it was 2 days after he landed in Melbourne it would be indicative of how he prepares himself. Could you imaging Buckley coming off an injury and a 2 year lay off not turning out as best he can and then not killing himself to put in a good effort? Of course Medhurst isn’t Buckley and who is but he damned well would wanna get his arse into gear very quickly - if it is true of course.
 

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If it is true then it is a concern. Even if it was 2 days after he landed in Melbourne it would be indicative of how he prepares himself. Could you imaging Buckley coming off an injury and a 2 year lay off not turning out as best he can and then not killing himself to put in a good effort? Of course Medhurst isn’t Buckley and who is but he damned well would wanna get his arse into gear very quickly - if it is true of course.
Aside from the possibility that it isn't true, there is also the possibility that he could have the flu, or be carrying an injury.

What difference does it make where he comes in the time trials anyway? If it comes to the regular season and he's fitter than Lance Armstrong, then coming 2nd last in the time trials is hardly relevant, is it?
 
Re: Medhurst finished second last to Rocca in the time trials...good luck if he wants a midfield spo

Please guys. Have you just realised that he was not going to make it as a midfielder.

As soon as he came out into the media saying he wanted to break into the midifeld I laughed.
 
What does Lica have an apprentice for?

Sounds strange. Medhurst is actually regarded for his tank and fitness. If it was the original run where Clarke finished first, Medhurst was mid pack from reports.


Medhurst's endurance is poor. He struggled to finish a game late in the season at wafl level when played up the ground. His best position is as a leading forward inside 50, similar to the role played by Williams at the hawks. He has been ineffective when played as a lead up half forward for Fremantle.

It will be interesting to see how he goes for you guys, his form in Melbourne for Fremantle was poor. Hopefully he plays well next season (apart from round 10 ofcourse).
 
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Medhurst is not a midfielder. Freo tried it and Medders failed badly.

He's a forward flank, nothing else.
 
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Maybe thats just a reflection on how easy they train at Fremantle.

I read somewhere that Graeme Polak said he was stunned by how hard it is at Richmond, and he's never trained so hard in his life.

Early days to get too concerned. He was drafted as a forward - if he makes the transition to midfield it will be a bonus.
 
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Aside from the possibility that it isn't true, there is also the possibility that he could have the flu, or be carrying an injury.

What difference does it make where he comes in the time trials anyway? If it comes to the regular season and he's fitter than Lance Armstrong, then coming 2nd last in the time trials is hardly relevant, is it?

Didnt Jason Cloke win the time trial last summer?
 

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But Jason Cloke didn't have a problem with his fitness at all...


You know my point though. Just because you win a time trial doesnt make you a footballer. Just because you lose a time trial doesnt mean you are not a footballer.

Medhurst is a speculative pick-up that did not really cost too much - just a sweetener in the Tarrant deal - probably the equivalent of a third/fourth round pick.

What we do know about him is that he has good goal sense, which may be handy with Tarrant and Caracella gone, and Didak injured.

Time will tell but I'm not going to get hung up over a run around the tan.
 
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Doesn't bode well for his midfield prospects.

I was sceptical when we nabbed him in the Tarrant deal, and still am to some extent. He is a forward, first and foremost, but with Davis, Egan and Didak (when fit) and perhaps even Bucks all vying for selection in attack, it's a hard slog ahead.
 
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Doesn't bode well for his midfield prospects.

I was sceptical when we nabbed him in the Tarrant deal, and still am to some extent. He is a forward, first and foremost, but with Davis, Egan and Didak (when fit) and perhaps even Bucks all vying for selection in attack, it's a hard slog ahead.
The whole point is that Didak ISN'T vying for selection in attack - He's out with a knee injury, which Medhurst provides cover for.

Even when Didak comes back, if Medhurst is playing well up forward, it means that we are free to use Didak more through the midfield.
 
Jason Cloke is irrelevant. Ignoring the fact he was crucified anyway, he put in but was deemed not good enough. I could list numerous players we've had that were probably good enough but never worked hard enough. If Medhurst came second last to Rocca he hasn't worked hard enough. I don’t know if it is all true but IF it is making excuses for him only serves to reinforce what I keep saying. The sooner we get more demanding the sooner we will break out of the long bout of mediocrity we are wallowing in.

We made excuses for Tarrant when the bottom line was he was not disciplined enough. We make excuses for losing grand finals when the bottom line is we didn't do enough ourselves. We make excuses for finishing bottom 4. We make excuses for finishing 7th and say we just missed 4th. So what if we just missed 4th - WE MISSED IT and finished 7th because that is how good we were. That is not a pessimistic view it is fact. Not a lot went wrong for us that wouldn’t happen any given year to any given team.

I don’t want to can Medhurst because I don’t know if this is true. All I am saying is that if it is we should be concerned – to the point that he be given a tough testing point in the not to distant future and be told in no uncertain terms if he fails he is sacked.

We are supposed to be winning premierships. Excuses don’t win premierships. We of all clubs should realize this. We’ve been making them for decades.
 
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Maybe thats just a reflection on how easy they train at Fremantle.

Freo are one of the most fitest squad in the AFL becuase they have to have lots of endurance to play on Subiaco.

Medhust is actually a good runner. But his problem is he doesnt like to push himself to the limit while playing or training.
 
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Freo are one of the most fitest squad in the AFL becuase they have to have lots of endurance to play on Subiaco.

I'll admit in season 2006 they looked extremely fit, but in previous seasons they have been notorious for getting run down late in the game due to lack of fitness.

Anyway, it was just a theory based on Polak's comments.
 
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I'll admit in season 2006 they looked extremely fit, but in previous seasons they have been notorious for getting run down late in the game due to lack of fitness.

Yeah I see where your coming from. I think Harvey coming to our club this year increased the harndness and itensity in our training sessions.
 

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