It’s so bad that we are currently second on the ladder and it feels worse to support us
Roast Media Shakes Head, Part 8
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Its that Power cycle of hope, excitement, then disappointment year in year out.
it never breaks.
Oh Jeez...
7news.com.au
Partner of former AFL player feels ‘sick’ as history repeats
‘Every two minutes he would do the same pattern, go to the mirror, (and say) ‘look at the scar’.
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The article seriously tries to paint it badly that he got a head knock in the SANFL in 2021 and then didn't play the next week.Oh Jeez...
Partner of former AFL player feels ‘sick’ as history repeats
‘Every two minutes he would do the same pattern, go to the mirror, (and say) ‘look at the scar’.
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A very good question Rexie. I thought Charlie Dixon covered the issue pretty well on TV last night. When asked he basically said Aussie Rules is a contact sport and as players we know the risks. I assume the Sam has been assessed and informed of the risks and chosen to keep playing.
The bottom line is where does this end? Do we stop playing Australian Rules for fear of head injury? HIA will not stop head injury but it will minimise the after effects. If the AFL want to cover their arse completely and limit the ambulance chasers they should make some form of head guard and scientific mouth guards mandatory. That way they can point to these measures and ask the court, 'short of not playing what more can we do?' That won't please everyone but it looks to be the simplest outcome.
FOOTNOTE: The Murdoch coverage is on pp5 of today's paper and it does not make good reading. It certainly raises questions about the PAFC's handling of the situation but also raises some questions about Sam Mayes' actions. For starters if he was as bad as his partner suggests why didn't he seek a medical assessment?
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Or... Our doctor just takes head contact seriously?
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Helmets do nothing to prevent concussion because they can’t stop your brain slapping the inside of your skull.
I have absolutely no doubt that we’re headed towards Gaelic football rules wrt tackling.
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It's missing the point entirely. Head impacts are to some degree unavoidable and the players do have to accept some risk. However it's the AFLs job to attempt to minimise that.
Charlie "angry face" Dixon seems to have missed the point, it's not that concussions happen, it's that when they do happen they need to treated responsibly not sent back onto the field after sitting down for 5 minutes.
I wonder if he'll change his views on the doc when he can't walk or get off the couch 5 years after retirement.
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Yeah OK but the helmets still do nothing.
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Agreed
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Cassie Burton appears to be dissatisfied with two aspects to the PAFC's handling of Sam Mayes' situation. One is the match day procedure through which he was allowed to keep playing when he should have been rested, the other concerns his post match care. As Sam was sent for scans after complaining of feeling dizzy and those scans cleared him of damage and he was subsequently referred to a specialist for diagnostic testing on his inner ear the post game aspect appears to be professional and reasonable. It is the match day procedures that appear to need scrutinising and this really surprises me as I thought care for the players' welfare was a priority and the reason Port have retained players while our cross town rivals have had a revolving door.
Apparently not so we await developments.
I watched Chris Davies presser from Monday and he said not giving Aliir Aliir a head injury assessment was an error of judgement on the part of the PAFC Doctor who has since admitted he should have sent Aliir Aliir for a HIA. At the suggestion that the AFL appoint an independent medico to each match to assess head injury Davies said the PAFC will support the AFL if that is what they decide to do. No suggestion that the PAFC will undertake an internal review of their match day protocols simply that we will comply with the AFL request for detailed information and comply with any direction the AFL give as a result. Davies also said the two players, Jones and Aliir, had not failed HIA on Monday but both complained of headaches and will be rested as per the AFL head injury protocols. Davies was not really commital on anything and sounded very much as if he was in damage control mode- which obviously he was.
Apparently not so we await developments.
I watched Chris Davies presser from Monday and he said not giving Aliir Aliir a head injury assessment was an error of judgement on the part of the PAFC Doctor who has since admitted he should have sent Aliir Aliir for a HIA. At the suggestion that the AFL appoint an independent medico to each match to assess head injury Davies said the PAFC will support the AFL if that is what they decide to do. No suggestion that the PAFC will undertake an internal review of their match day protocols simply that we will comply with the AFL request for detailed information and comply with any direction the AFL give as a result. Davies also said the two players, Jones and Aliir, had not failed HIA on Monday but both complained of headaches and will be rested as per the AFL head injury protocols. Davies was not really commital on anything and sounded very much as if he was in damage control mode- which obviously he was.
The AFL is doing a lot to minimise concussions. This was a mistake by the doctor.
Seems to be this comfortable feeling anong many that as long as the player comes off after a concussion then everything is OK and can be forgotten about. The worst of the damage is already done. Players of course should come off but the damage is done.
Poor form by Sams partner to opportunistically have a crack at the club when his concussions were from normal play in a game he chooses to play to this day.
chiwigi
I’ll make tears from your Wines.
Are they??
I don't see them doing that much, other than pay lip service.
Players are still encouraged by the rules to duck and get head contact.
Those lining players up are treated mildly if they come from the 'right' team.
Speccies with knees in the back of the head are lauded.
Port are simply this weeks chip paper article. It's also a great opportunity to pic on a pinata team to act like they actually care (we gave them the opportunity stupidly).
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We don't need a persecution complex.
I agree that Port are this week's pinata team for those goldfish that need to be permanently outraged about something, anything.
If people really cared, they would be just as concerned about Alir even if he was subbed out immediately.
The pile on to outbid each other on the fine we deserve is mildly amusing
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Why aren't we having players sign a waiver that they understand the risks when playing and that the clubs will do the best they can to prevent long term injury but at the end of the day the risk is the inidivduals to take. The reward is huge money over a short time periodi of ones life and living a dream. It's ridiculous this ambulance chasing lawyer stuff, all waiting at the bit to get a case where a lot of the time even now the players themselves are demanding to go back on. No one puts a gun to someones head and forces them to play football ffs.
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Sure, but by sending Aliir back out on the field after that head knock without proper testing we weren't 'doing the best we could to prevent long term injury'.
The article from Cassie Burton is a straight up hit job. There's no claims any way about what happened with Sam Mayes. What assessments were done with him, how long he was off after the headknock. Just that he got his head bandaged, which happened because he had a cut. There's the quotes from Mayes where he looks in the mirror and says check out that scar.
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Unrelated, hows Hot Toddy smashing into Pete Ladhams on the wing.
Aliir underwent a HIA, he didn't undergo SCAT5 testing.
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Thanks for the clarification I didn't realise there was a difference. Now I have it, the Doctor did an assessment and concluded that Aliir didn't need deeper examination.
As for Cassie the more I read from other posters on this site the more her story doesn't tally with the facts as reported at the time or with Sam Mayes' version of events. Some journo asks Cassie for a quote and away she goes, I suspect she is enjoyng her five minutes of fame.
A waiver like that would likely have very little weight. Apart from everything else, most making it would be minors when they do. Then, you have the information asymmetry between the league, with the resources that come with >$1bn in revenue, and players and their families.
