Megadeath v Metallica

[penguinhunter102]

Yeh true but you cant say that metallica has'nt had any good songs

 

[I Rock]

Megadeth by so much it is not funny. Metallica deserve a huge place in the weld of metal for how they helped pioneer the American scene in the eighties and there first four albums are classics. However against the better musical orientated metal bands of today they look like a high school garage band. St Anger was pathetic and Death Magnetic was a piece of shit a band by any other name releasing those albums would struggle to sell a copy. Metallica get the fan boy vote by having fans that bridge the gap between true metal fans and top 40 clowns who think yelln out Metallica rules makes them some sort of metal fan. Lars is one of the worst drummers ever and has nt improved after thirty years. James is a whinging bitch and Kurt has managed a long career only knowing one scale for solo's. Rob played in Infectious Grooves and with Black Label Society so will always get respect from me.

Megadeth have always been the better music quality band and if not for mis opinions on Dave and people not digging his singing would be reconised as the better of the two. Megadeths two new albums stand up to the music quality of some of the best musical talented bands of today Metallicas are shit it's just Metallica fan boys will buy their records anyway.

Sorry for spelling and grammer errors typing this on my phone whilst on the bog at work.

 

[FIGJAM]

metallica deserve a huge place in the weld of metal...

Hehehe!

 

[HELLSBELLS]

This has to one argument that has been done to Death ...

Im a huge huge Metallica fan and would rate them above most other bands ...

I think their first 4 albums better anything Megadeth have done or will do ...

The one thing that makes me turn off Megadeth and also Slayer for that matter is 1-Dave Mustaines voice ... it is friggin horrible !!! how anyone can like the sound of a strangled cat/ man who needs to crap is beyond me ..... the music is fantastic get rid of his voice and i can listen to the music all day

And the same goes for Tom Arayas voice .... it is very very very very very average .... i would not call what he does singing !! he talks loudly at best .....music is awesome tho no doubt

James even though having lost it a bit still owns these 2 blokes ...


And all the talk about musicians and whos better that doesnt make either band better ! its about how the 4 or 5 people gel together as a band that makes them special and in that catergory imo Metallica has Megadeth nailed .


And look at Mustaine he knows who the better band is anyway even through all the crap he says about his band being better !! he has said on numerous occasions he would of given anything for a 2nd chance in Metallica .... so does he really believe his band is better ??? and if he does believe Megadeth are better then is he just jealous of the money he as missed out on ?? ... all these bands can talk all the crap they want about Metallica selling out and only being worried about money but i bet if Megadeth or Slayer had the chance they would all give their balls to be as big and well off as Metallica and saying otherwise is total crap ....

And any of u pussies out there who say Metallica sold out good on ya's .... any one of u would of done the same thing they have for the fortune and fame and u all know it ....

 

[Dee Snider]

. Rob played in Infectious Grooves and with Black Label Society so will always get respect from me. quote]

He belongs in Suicidal Tendencies.

 

[mickelboy182]

And look at Mustaine he knows who the better band is anyway even through all the crap he says about his band being better !! he has said on numerous occasions he would of given anything for a 2nd chance in Metallica .... so does he really believe his band is better ??? and if he does believe Megadeth are better then is he just jealous of the money he as missed out on ?? ... all these bands can talk all the crap they want about Metallica selling out and only being worried about money but i bet if Megadeth or Slayer had the chance they would all give their balls to be as big and well off as Metallica and saying otherwise is total crap ....

And any of u pussies out there who say Metallica sold out good on ya's .... any one of u would of done the same thing they have for the fortune and fame and u all know it ....

Do you seriously think Dave DOESN'T think Megadeth are better? Are you ******* ******ed?

I couldn't care less about Metallica 'selling out'. They're entitled to make new music. Unfortunately, this new music was utter garbage. The fact is, they haven't released anything decent since TBA.
Megadeth in the mean time have released CTE, UA and Endgame. TSHF could even get a mention there.

In the words of the mighty Rob Halford; 'Megadeth, for consistency's sake.'

 

[Rioli magic]

However against the better musical orientated metal bands of today they look like a high school garage band. St Anger was pathetic and Death Magnetic was a piece of shit a band by any other name releasing those albums would struggle to sell a copy. Metallica get the fan boy vote by having fans that bridge the gap between true metal fans and top 40 clowns who think yelln out Metallica rules makes them some sort of metal fan. Lars is one of the worst drummers ever and has nt improved after thirty years. James is a whinging bitch and Kurt has managed a long career only knowing one scale for solo's. Rob played in Infectious Grooves and with Black Label Society so will always get respect from me.

Megadeth have always been the better music quality band and if not for mis opinions on Dave and people not digging his singing would be reconised as the better of the two. Megadeths two new albums stand up to the music quality of some of the best musical talented bands of today Metallicas are shit it's just Metallica fan boys will buy their records anyway.

LOL you've got no idea mate. Probably should have just said I like Megadeth more without giving all the wrong reasons. Don't worry 'out bogan-ing' your mates is cool too.

Judas Priest > Michael Angelo Batio.

Metallica for me.

 

[mickelboy182]

LOL you've got no idea mate. Probably should have just said I like Megadeth more without giving all the wrong reasons. Don't worry 'out bogan-ing' your mates is cool too.

Judas Priest > Michael Angelo Batio.

Metallica for me.

His reasons are prefectly valid. The majority of my friends aren't in to metal, but they still like Metallica. A Metallica crowd these days is not your typical metal crowd. Metallica are far more accessible than Megadeth.

What is so wrong with his thoughts? What is wrong with liking talented musicians? Talent is an important quality for a band, one would think. That's why I have infinite respect for Dream Theater, masters of their instruments. I'm more of a thrash man so I like Megadeth the most due to their relative technical prowess and speed over other bands.

 

[I Rock]

LOL you've got no idea mate. Probably should have just said I like Megadeth more without giving all the wrong reasons. Don't worry 'out bogan-ing' your mates is cool too.

Judas Priest > Michael Angelo Batio.

Metallica for me.

Big difference between a bogan and a metal head, my point still stands that Metallica have a lot more fans (period) who would not be classed as true metal listeners. Mate.

Metallica have not produced a decent album in years, take your Metallica rose coloured glasses off. Some Kind of Monster proved that not only are they a bunch of spoilt men acting like teenage pansies, they have no direction or idea on what they are trying to do. At least you could see they had a direction and song writing purpose when they did the Black album, that was obvious in the Year In a Life doco's.

The best thing Nu Metal did was die and re introduce metal bands who are masters of their craft not just a bunch of guitars tuned down low and hats backwards (not saying Metallica are Nu Metal just that the scene became again about musicianship not image and clothing brands after it). Compared to the standard of the best metal acts of the moment Metallica's new albums are not even anywhere near that level. They sell records on name and reputation. Megadeth are still producing albums that are at least in the same ball park as the great modern day albums.

Yes Metallica's first four albums are classics and yes the helped pioneer American Metal in the 80's, but so did Megadeth. People like to talk about Metallica in the early days but most forget to mention Dave was their in the early days when they were tearing San Fransico up and Dave wrote half of Kill 'Em All.

No matter how people like to pretend differently Lars is not a good drummer. Very easy to cover an early Metallica song, not so easy to cover a early Megadeth one. Not saying songs have to be hard to be good, however they have to be good to be good. Please tell me what is impressive about Metallica's last two albums? And answer me honestly would you have listened to either for more than a minute had it not been Metallica who made them?

Yes I have always like Megadeth more; however they were my two favourite bands as a kid. I still buy Megadeth albums and haven't bought a Metallica one in years and that's simply because Metallica haven't made an album IMO worth buying in years. For that fact I feel Megadeth are the better band of the two.

It is a pity most people don't like Dave and hate his singing because the guy can seriously write a song. I admit I am harder on Metallica than need be, and that's becasue of two reasons.
1. The dissapointment of their last few records.
2. I hated the fact that for years so many Metallica fans would just write off Megadeth without really having a reson why. They just did it because Megadeth aren't Metallica and apparently Metallica rules.

The real shame here is what kind of band would have Metallica been had they not gotten rid of Dave.

His reasons are prefectly valid. The majority of my friends aren't in to metal, but they still like Metallica. A Metallica crowd these days is not your typical metal crowd. Metallica are far more accessible than Megadeth.

What is so wrong with his thoughts? What is wrong with liking talented musicians? Talent is an important quality for a band, one would think. That's why I have infinite respect for Dream Theater, masters of their instruments. I'm more of a thrash man so I like Megadeth the most due to their relative technical prowess and speed over other bands..

Cheers, glad someone gets it. To make myself clear a song doesn't have to be complicated to be good. But it needs sections that make you go "**** that was sweet." For example I love Hatebreed and their guitar riffs for the most part are easy to play, but they sound heavy and brutal and make you stand up and listen. Love Seasick Steve his music is as uncomplicated as it gets, but **** does he write songs that make you want to listen.

The great thing about metal is that it is an elite brand of music and the best at it are great musicians. I have no problems with the DIY method to music but thats a punk formula not a metal one.

 

[bbjonesjr]

i saw megadeth live last year, and though mustain is a self obsessed nuffy - he delivered the goods. seeing Metallica this year, hopefully i should make up my mind then

 

[Rioli magic]

What is so wrong with his thoughts? What is wrong with liking talented musicians? Talent is an important quality for a band, one would think. That's why I have infinite respect for Dream Theater, masters of their instruments. I'm more of a thrash man so I like Megadeth the most due to their relative technical prowess and speed over other bands.

If your critiquing music ability "James is a whinging bitch" doesn't cut it as a reason. Hetfield's rhythm work is as good as it gets, his right hand is better than Mustaines, and that bloke has written more badass riffs than anyone. Friedman was a killer guitarist for what? 3 albums he hung around. But the best musician's don't neccessarily write the most difficult things to play, every guitarist still asks why they didn't come up with 'smoke on the water'. I can't work out why Kirk doesn't rip it up with mixolydian or phyrgian dominant solo's more often either, nothing screams metal like a major 3rd. The difference technically is minimal, if you're after prowess on the instrument listen to Esteban or Vai, if your a thrash head Kreator have been killing both these bands of late. Popularity doesn't affect my ears.

FWIW I am a big Megadeth fan, I just like Metallica more.


Edit: For all the bagging of Lars who is average, Megadeth played a 4/4 rock beat for how long? Single kick FFS it's metal.

 

[I Rock]

If your critiquing music ability "James is a whinging bitch" doesn't cut it as a reason. Hetfield's rhythm work is as good as it gets, his right hand is better than Mustaines, and that bloke has written more badass riffs than anyone. Friedman was a killer guitarist for what? 3 albums he hung around. But the best musician's don't neccessarily write the most difficult things to play, every guitarist still asks why they didn't come up with 'smoke on the water'. I can't work out why Kirk doesn't rip it up with mixolydian or phyrgian dominant solo's more often either, nothing screams metal like a major 3rd. The difference technically is minimal, if you're after prowess on the instrument listen to Esteban or Vai, if your a thrash head Kreator have been killing both these bands of late. Popularity doesn't affect my ears.

FWIW I am a big Megadeth fan, I just like Metallica more.


Edit: For all the bagging of Lars who is average, Megadeth played a 4/4 rock beat for how long? Single kick FFS it's metal.

I will admit that to go on the personal attack was overboard but after watching Some Kind Of Monster I couldn't help but think; Jesus you guys are in arguable the biggest metal/rock band ever and you are all acting like a bunch of private school girls. Lose the skirts and nut up again. Also seems people go on the attack on Dave as some sort of perfect reason not to like Megadeth.

On Lars drumming doesn't it frustrate you that it's been such a long time since you heard a Metallica song and thought that drum section was ****ing amazing. Your right songs don't have to be complicated to be good, but I don't think Metallica have had any real direction or true understanding of what they were going to produce in a long time and as a result the albums are not very good. Again would you have given St Anger or Death Magnetic as much time if it were not Metallica who produced it?

Like you I like both bands (Well Metalica's early stuff) and their first few records are on par in terms of being cool to listen too. I have always preffered Megadeth from a technical stand point and as I said its been a long time since Metallica recorded an album that I like; last time Megadeth did one I liked was a little as last year.

 

[Rioli magic]

Yeah im not having a go at Megadeth here.

I actually like Death Magnetic and listen to it a fair bit TBH. The ones before it were junk but I genuinely like DM. It actually has quite a bit of subtlety to it in the rhythm guitar tracks and enough in the structure which is what makes a good album, and made Justice and the like good.

Lars has been average for a while, but without being gay about it sometimes there's a maturity to music that actually makes things better. The solo's in Holy Wars Mustaine rips are basic pentatonic licks but they're killer, often it's more powerful. I think Lars has taken this approach on recordings and actually plays for the 'band' as much as possible. Live he just gets carried away with his own ability and buggers shit up.

If you want to here a good metal drummer check out Daniel Erlandsson of Arch Enemy. Great band and my favourite drummer, quality.

 

[mickelboy182]

If your critiquing music ability "James is a whinging bitch" doesn't cut it as a reason. Hetfield's rhythm work is as good as it gets, his right hand is better than Mustaines, and that bloke has written more badass riffs than anyone. Friedman was a killer guitarist for what? 3 albums he hung around. if your a thrash head Kreator have been killing both these bands of late

Edit: For all the bagging of Lars who is average, Megadeth played a 4/4 rock beat for how long? Single kick FFS it's metal.

I never called James a whinging bitch, and I didn't point out my agreeance with that part of the post. No idea why you're telling me that.
Heard Chris Broderick? He can shred Marty's solo's better than the men did himself!

Love Kreator and Hordes of Chaos is a great album, though I do still prefer Megadeth though.

And please, try and drum along to PSBWB in it's entirety. Not the easiest thing to do.

Comparing Lars to any of Megadeth's drummers is only going to end in tears for the Metallica fan. Lars is very average, and I don't understand how people can defend his laziness.

 

[Rioli magic]

I never called James a whinging bitch, and I didn't point out my agreeance with that part of the post. No idea why you're telling me that.
Heard Chris Broderick? He can shred Marty's solo's better than the men did himself!

Love Kreator and Hordes of Chaos is a great album, though I do still prefer Megadeth though.

And please, try and drum along to PSBWB in it's entirety. Not the easiest thing to do.

Comparing Lars to any of Megadeth's drummers is only going to end in tears for the Metallica fan. Lars is very average, and I don't understand how people can defend his laziness.

You should start a cover band.

Lars has been average for a long time, as I keep saying. Not sure Chuck Behler did anything beyond Justice's drumming though.

 

[I Rock]

You should start a cover band.

Lars has been average for a long time, as I keep saying. Not sure Chuck Behler did anything beyond Justice's drumming though.

There is a reason why on the Justice tour Metallica only played sections of that albums songs and its not because they are long. "Insert sly emecon."

 

[Rioli magic]

There is a reason why on the Justice tour Metallica only played sections of that albums songs and its not because they are long. "Insert sly emecon."

Because they ran out of floor toms for Dyers Eve?

Na seriously it's because they didn't have Chuck, and Lars is so awful Roger Taylor actually played the drums on Puppets.

 

[I Rock]

Because they ran out of floor toms for Dyers Eve?

Na seriously it's because they didn't have Chuck, and Lars is so awful Roger Taylor actually played the drums on Puppets.

Well in their defense they wouldn't be the first or only band who don't/can't play live what they have recorded.