News Melbourne player accused of sexual assault

[Marc_Remillard]

I was trying to say it like this, but you said it better.

Schmuttt put it best

 

[Demon 16]

Schmuttt put it best

Ok I said it worst, I get it

 

[dees arent rabble]

It's all starts at grass root footy.
Footy club culture is shocking.
Let's see how many chick we can bang and how much booze we can scull.
No way are my kids playing Aussie rules or rugby league

 

[Jaeger]

Let's see how many chick we can bang and how much booze we can scull.

Yeah, cos only boys who play footy think like this.

 

[Demon 16]

It's all starts at grass root footy.
Footy club culture is shocking.
Let's see how many chick we can bang and how much booze we can scull.
No way are my kids playing Aussie rules or rugby league

Some low level, local clubs can get out of hand if the wrong people are on the committee etc.

But I think you'd be surprised at the extent to which top level clubs focus on culture and group dynamics.

If a player (or group of players) is found to be operating outside of the the club ethos and not manageable, then they will be out pretty quick these days. Even if they are top end talent.

I hope you let your kids play team sports. It's generally a positive learning experience for life's path on so many levels, and they can make great friendships from the experience as well.

 

[dees arent rabble]

Some low level, local clubs can get out of hand if the wrong people are on the committee etc.

But I think you'd be surprised at the extent to which top level clubs focus on culture and group dynamics.

If a player (or group of players) is found to be operating outside of the the club ethos and not manageable, then they will be out pretty quick these days. Even if they are top end talent.

I hope you let your kids play team sports. It's generally a positive learning experience for life's path on so many levels, and they can make great friendships from the experience as well.

They are in a surf club and boardriders club. Mixed gender sportsclubs

 

[dees arent rabble]

Yeah, cos only boys who play footy think like this.

Been involved in a few clubs. Can't say they are not boys clubs

 

[Willo 17]

I’m a little shocked by the lack of care shown in here for the victim.

Let’s hope she’s OK, first and foremost.

(This isn’t a dig at a rival club, hopefully we can all see how a crime like this is FAR more important than team colours.)

Alleged victim. Let the law run it's course before we judge.

 

[Demon in Hell]

Can someone tell me how the club first found out about the accusation. Who told them.

Was it the player, the complainant, the AFL or Victorian Police?

 

[Cannon82]

I’m a little shocked by the lack of care shown in here for the victim.

Let’s hope she’s OK, first and foremost.

(This isn’t a dig at a rival club, hopefully we can all see how a crime like this is FAR more important than team colours.)

It's an accusation, not a conviction, so stow the sanctimony. Could be completely made up so how about not jumping the gun until the facts come out, which they won't because it's a he said, she said mess.

Edit: Never mind, I see I'm about 10th in line for this.

 

[00Stinger]

I’m a little shocked by the lack of care shown in here for the victim.

Let’s hope she’s OK, first and foremost.

(This isn’t a dig at a rival club, hopefully we can all see how a crime like this is FAR more important than team colours.)

The victim if it the accusation is true, should be the at the foremost of everyones minds in this thread. Hopefully she is fine and the perpetrator is punished adequately.

Rightly or wrongly i think most Melbourne supporters are just hoping that a star player has not committed this crime if true.

However if a star player has than they should be punished extremely hard

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[schmuttt]

The victim if it the accusation is true, should be the at the foremost of everyones minds in this thread. Hopefully she is fine and the perpetrator is punished adequately.

Rightly or wrongly i think most Melbourne supporters are just hoping that a star player has not committed this crime if true.

However if a star player has than they should be punished extremely hard

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Mate, if whoever it was is found guilty they should be sacked on the spot.

 

[ABray10]

Mate, if whoever it was is found guilty they should be sacked on the spot.

Agreed, if they are found guilty then I hope they are sacked immediately no matter who they are.

However conversely to that, I sincerely hope they are not punished at all while it is just an accusation, too often I feel like we are starting to move towards a guilty until proven innocent mindset.

 

[00Stinger]

Mate, if whoever it was is found guilty they should be sacked on the spot.

I agree. Pretty much what i said.

I was just pointing out that from a supporters perspective i hope it is not one of our stars getting sacked.*

*meaning i hope it was the 41st listed player not the 5th listed player on our list. But dont take that for a second as me condoning a shit act, if it is proven correct

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[schmuttt]

I can understand a lot of the feedback here...My opinion is still that the primary concern should be to confirm the victim (alleged, female, add other descriptor/caveats as required) is OK rather than the players innocence (which can be worried about later), however can see that I don’t share the popular opinion.

But before I leave, I just wanted to just have a laugh at this quote.


I don’t know if you’d say a Great Dane sneaking into the backyard and getting its head stuck in the cat flap is a ‘complication’. I have seen worse arguments at the MRP though!

Let’s hope the victim is OK, the player is dealt with appropriately (if guilty) and you can all marvel at how awesome Jordy Lewis is again.

The primary concern is to investigate the allegations and deem them to be true or false. I see no issue with waiting for that, but clearly you want to play holier than thou on our board so go at it (Kinda ironic considering the past 24 months for Hawthorn...).

 

[Cannon82]

Don't really give a shit whether its a Melbourne player, a local VFL player or a Tibetan monk, there shouldn't be a witch hunt based on an accusation.

 

[Mat Mann]

Fingers crossed it's a false allegation. If not, that's pretty messed up.

the whole Stkilda school girl was a false allegation, that went well for us......

 

[Slartibartfast]

I hope any offender gets their right wack but I am tired of the gallows being pulled out before the trial has started.

 

[ptrg]

What are the chances it's some Ugly Bob type unit fulfilling his fantasies due to the doors opened by being a new AFL player?

 

[Sellout Scully]

What are the chances it's some Ugly Bob type unit fulfilling his fantasies due to the doors opened by being a new AFL player?

Or what if there was a plot twist and it turned out to be an AFLW Melbourne player?

 

[Capt_Concussion]

They are in a surf club and boardriders club. Mixed gender sportsclubs

Another reason why the success of AFLW is so important.

I never really fit into the classic grassroot footy culture because of the problems you mentioned. Moved to a different city for work and joined a club which fields a team in the local women's comp. Culture is much better. Although a lot of grog is still consumed which isn't a problem if nothing else arises from being intoxicated all the time.

If AFLW is a success and more local clubs start fielding women's sides, the culture of grassroots clubs is going to improve.

 

[Super Demon]

My guess is that this will all go away almost as quickly as it arrived.
Classic She said He said situation.

 

[Tempy Tiger]

If the incident happened in Bali then the player will have to run the crap shoot that is the Indonesian justice system. If Vic pol are involved it could only be to the extent of gathering statements on behalf of their Indonesian counterparts.

 

[Tempy Tiger]

Another reason why the success of AFLW is so important.

I never really fit into the classic grassroot footy culture because of the problems you mentioned. Moved to a different city for work and joined a club which fields a team in the local women's comp. Culture is much better. Although a lot of grog is still consumed which isn't a problem if nothing else arises from being intoxicated all the time.

If AFLW is a success and more local clubs start fielding women's sides, the culture of grassroots clubs is going to improve.

Totally agree with this. I played footy from juniors up until the age of 30 and saw a lot of poor attitudes towards women. Binge drinking was a mandatory requirement. There was a lot of good too but Country football would be well served finding more female club presidents.

 

[Bluelegs]

Mate, if whoever it was is found guilty they should be sacked on the spot.

Yeah there's no coming back from it if it's true.