Melbourne vs West Coast

[Hot Pocket]

Where do you think Melbourne's midfield ranks in the league, out of interest?

Pretty badly on talent, but Roos' plan seems to allow us to win the battle against most opposition. Can only base it on the pre season and last week, but we are getting plenty of the ball and clearances. Jones/Tyson/Vince is looking to be a good top 3.

Its more that WC's midfield is quite weak, and that at the G ours should be favoured. You guys play like slop at the G.

 

[Coaster2012]

Our tall defenders do a pretty good job though - we need to get on top in the midfield and restrict your chances. Our defenders match up well with your forwards. We just need to find a reliable avenue to goal or Fitzy to have one of his 4 goal bizarro world games.

How do your defenders match up well? Last year Kennedy and Darling booted 5 each against the D's, and an out of form Lecca kicked 3. Not having a go, just don't know how you can say they match up well when our forwards have had days out on your defenders, and right now they are looking the best they have for 18 months.

 

[sTeeL]

Pretty badly on talent, but Roos' plan seems to allow us to win the battle against most opposition. Can only base it on the pre season and last week, but we are getting plenty of the ball and clearances. Jones/Tyson/Vince is looking to be a good top 3.

Its more that WC's midfield is quite weak, and that at the G ours should be favoured. You guys play like slop at the G.

This is certainly an optimist.

At best you would say a shithouse clog it up play style will allow you to break even with lower tier midfield's. Certainly not win against most midfield's.

You don't have the cattle like Sydney had to properly implement it. Its certainly an upgrade on last year but let's not get carried away.

Your defence is mediocre, your forward line is currently non-existant. Conservatively, I expect a minimum 30 point win and that's comfortably without struggling to get there. I would be shocked if Melbourne kicked more than 8.

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[nameless]

Playing this game on paper it should be nothing short of a 60 point win for West Coast.

But the real thing is a different kettle of fish as we know...100 point win for West Coast.

 

[L_W_P]

Pretty badly on talent, but Roos' plan seems to allow us to win the battle against most opposition. Can only base it on the pre season and last week, but we are getting plenty of the ball and clearances. Jones/Tyson/Vince is looking to be a good top 3.

Its more that WC's midfield is quite weak, and that at the G ours should be favoured. You guys play like slop at the G.

Despite winning hitouts 47 to 34 your midfield was still beaten 40 to 30 in clearences by a team missing it's 3 best mids. Only a small sample size obviously but your midfield haven't 'won' anything yet.

West Coast went up against the AA ruckman and one of the highest rated young midfields in the comp and their 'weak' midfield drew level on the clearences.

If Melbourne's best hope of contesting this weekend is winning the midfield battle then the game is already over imo.

The best bet for the Dees would be to just flood like crazy and turn it into a Ross Lyon special ala St.Kilda vs Bulldogs round 12 in 2011.

 

[ziad]

You guys play like slop at the G.

92, 94 and 06. 05 wasn't bad at the G either. but we have an evolving game plan that still requires plenty of tinkering. What is it, we will have to wait and see but it is G oriented

Great to see our new training facilities will include one ground with the dimensions of the G.

 

[ziad]

Pretty badly on talent, but Roos' plan seems to allow us to win the battle against most opposition.

cleaned up by the saints reserves. How did you go against a real team like the Hawks in a praccy game?

 

[Stikman75]

Interested that the West Coast supporters are thinking the tall forward line will be an issue. Last week they were much, much taller than the Doggies yet still most of the goals came from the small/mid forward in LeCras and the midfield. Only six shots on goal (for six goals) between Darling and Kennedy and bugger all from the other three talls rotating through. They should have been dominant but weren't and I think Melbourne have more height down back.

Midfield will kill Melbourne and they don't have much in attack either. Under 10 goals to WC is a failure for mine.

 

[who_let_the_dogs_out]

Interested that the West Coast supporters are thinking the tall forward line will be an issue. Last week they were much, much taller than the Doggies yet still most of the goals came from the small/mid forward in LeCras and the midfield. Only six shots on goal (for six goals) between Darling and Kennedy and bugger all from the other three talls rotating through. They should have been dominant but weren't and I think Melbourne have more height down back.

Midfield will kill Melbourne and they don't have much in attack either. Under 10 goals to WC is a failure for mine.

Its true. It was their ferocious ball pressure (can't remember an opponent destroying us in this area like WC), causing multiple turnovers which led to a lot of goals.

If West Coast can maintain that intensity they will do some damage this year. I was just happy we kept the loss to around 10 goals, some teams will get annihilated over there.

 

[nameless]

Interested that the West Coast supporters are thinking the tall forward line will be an issue. Last week they were much, much taller than the Doggies yet still most of the goals came from the small/mid forward in LeCras and the midfield. Only six shots on goal (for six goals) between Darling and Kennedy and bugger all from the other three talls rotating through. They should have been dominant but weren't and I think Melbourne have more height down back.

Midfield will kill Melbourne and they don't have much in attack either. Under 10 goals to WC is a failure for mine.

True, delivery was mostly poor - something which I think will improve this week against a lesser opposition midfield. They also dropped some very simple marks which would have made things look better.

But you'll also find that while our talls didn't kick the goals, they contested very well and then followed up to apply pressure allowing the smaller players to score.

Kennedy - 6 tackles
Darling - 5 tackles
Sinclair - 4 tackles

They play small and tall.

 

[Freomaniac]

It will be a 40-60 point win to West Coast. That will be an improvement as they got belted by 80-90 odd last season.

What I have noticed about the Demons is that under that 1st game with Paul Roos as coach, they are much more defensive. The only reason why the demons lost last week was that they kicked 0.6 instead of 6 goals.

 

[Underdog]

What I have noticed about the Demons is that under that 1st game with Paul Roos as coach, they are much more defensive. The only reason why the demons lost last week was that they kicked 0.6 instead of 6 goals.

That could be said of hundreds, if not thousands of games. The point is, they didn't.

 

[ChimpaWompa]

you'd have to say it'd be the biggest win of the round by a fair margin.

 

[Kaboodleer]

I actually don't want us to win by too much - good for the competition if Melbourne can be more competitive this season.

 

[Freomaniac]

That could be said of hundreds, if not thousands of games. The point is, they didn't.

you dont say....

Still it wont stop them to try and flood the back line.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

West Coasts midfield and half forwards worked really well in round one. But the forward didn't function as intended.

Siclair in particular was a liability up forward. He needs to realise he's subservient to Kennedy and not just get the hell out of his way but actually lead players away from him.

We also leaked a few too many weak goals last weekend as well.

 

[joop]

How were both teams coming off 2 losses going into round 2??

 

[Probitas_]

How were both teams coming off 2 losses going into round 2??

Last year we played each other in round 3.

 

[Dont be a lemon]

1988 Elimination Final

Heh, if Melbourne supporters whinge about Docklands they must have hated going out to Mulgrave.

 

[swishy]

west coast fwds will be too much, not expecting a win but want to see competitiveness.

 

[Headless]

Call me biased, but I think Melbourne will get within 80 goals.

 

[Hap Hapablap]

the sheer optimism by some demon supporters is impressive albeit a bit hilarious.

nevertheless there would have to be a catastrophic incident in order for wce to lose this. im not rating our chances too highly for the year but this game was one that i could tip knowing 100% we'd win.

anything less than a 10 goal win is a loss.

 

[Marlin01]

I give Melbourne a better chance than I gave GWS in round 1.

 

[clogged]

That could be said of hundreds, if not thousands of games. The point is, they didn't.

Not about any of the games the Demons have lost over the past five years.

 

[Jamurp]

Our efforts on Sunday will be of stronger quality than those 'messages on hold' signs. We'll get belted though.