Opinion Mick Malthouse

What is the next move on Mick?

  • Sack him immediately; replacement coach to see out the year.

    Votes: 192 48.9%
  • Let him coach out the year then show him the door.

    Votes: 70 17.8%
  • Sign him now to give coaches and players some direction.

    Votes: 81 20.6%
  • Not sure yet... still too angry to think clearly.

    Votes: 50 12.7%

  • Total voters
    393
  • Poll closed .

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RE: Jones. He is not a good contested mark. We keep bombing it on top of his head and expecting him to mark it. He is excellent when the ball is put out in front of him on the lead (i.e. Like Fev - not saying he's anywhere near Fev but similar style). We just don't have the capabilities to feed him the ball like that because:

a) our gameplan generally doesn't involve quick ball movement (boundary line, defensive style cloggs up our attacking half)
b) our players lack the skills to execute it.

The question in my opinion, is why on earth would you recruit Jones when he in no way fits the sort of game plan Mick is implementing.
 

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Head Coach - Nathan Bassett

sorry for intruding and correct me if I'm wrong but it's not possible to have Bassett as head coach, as he is not apart of the current group of assistants completing AFL's coaching level 4 accreditation course which is now required for coaches who want to apply for senior coaching gigs. I think Luke Beveridge was to be the last senior coach to be appointed without having completed the course.

The 9 assistants currently doing it are Brendan Bolton, Matthew Nicks, John Barker, Stuart Dew, Blake Caracella, Adam Kingsley, Simon Lloyd, Robert Harvey and Simon Goodwin who already has the Melbourne gig when Roos finishes up.
 
We have a coach trying to fit square players in a round hole, rather than taking his square players and building them a square hole to go through :drunk:

Yep, that's pretty much my observation with Jones. I genuinely believe that he could thrive in a team that opens up the forward 50 for him and moves the ball quickly.

I can honestly call it before it happens in terms of when he will mark it or when he won't.
 
sorry for intruding and correct me if I'm wrong but it's not possible to have Bassett as head coach, as he is not apart of the current group of assistants completing AFL's coaching level 4 accreditation course which is now required for coaches who want to apply for senior coaching gigs. I think Luke Beveridge was to be the last senior coach to be appointed without having completed the course.

The 9 assistants currently doing it are Brendan Bolton, Matthew Nicks, John Barker, Stuart Dew, Blake Caracella, Adam Kingsley, Simon Lloyd, Robert Harvey and Simon Goodwin who already has the Melbourne gig when Roos finishes up.

lol Barker as a senior coach. That'd be hilarious
 
sorry for intruding and correct me if I'm wrong but it's not possible to have Bassett as head coach, as he is not apart of the current group of assistants completing AFL's coaching level 4 accreditation course which is now required for coaches who want to apply for senior coaching gigs. I think Luke Beveridge was to be the last senior coach to be appointed without having completed the course.

The 9 assistants currently doing it are Brendan Bolton, Matthew Nicks, John Barker, Stuart Dew, Blake Caracella, Adam Kingsley, Simon Lloyd, Robert Harvey and Simon Goodwin who already has the Melbourne gig when Roos finishes up.
Hmm interesting, thanks for the update HM18.
 
sorry for intruding and correct me if I'm wrong but it's not possible to have Bassett as head coach, as he is not apart of the current group of assistants completing AFL's coaching level 4 accreditation course which is now required for coaches who want to apply for senior coaching gigs. I think Luke Beveridge was to be the last senior coach to be appointed without having completed the course.

The 9 assistants currently doing it are Brendan Bolton, Matthew Nicks, John Barker, Stuart Dew, Blake Caracella, Adam Kingsley, Simon Lloyd, Robert Harvey and Simon Goodwin who already has the Melbourne gig when Roos finishes up.

I assume previous Head Coaches are exempt?

David Rhys Jones has spotted an issue some of our players appear to be colour blind and can't differentiate between the Navy Blue and opposition colours.
 
I imagine you would feel the same way about your parents if they are/were the same age as Malthouse.

This age bullshit is so immature, it perfectly demonstrates why our society is going to shit. Apparently if you are not 30 something you are useless. Thank goodness the corporate world doesn't operate like this.

Sir Alex Ferguson kept winning trophies at Man U till he was 70, the current (and 4 time) Superbowl winning coach, Bill Belichick is 63) and 5 time NBA championship winning coach, Gregg Popovich coached another NBA title last year at age 65 ..

This ageist/over the hill/Mick is senile comments about Malthouse are degrading, irrelevant and offensive.

Said in a previous post about Mick and his age that older Australians are being marginalized in today's society.

In countries like the US and Europe, older coaches are treated with respect and dignity, look Mick's probably not the right coach for Carlton, but some of the personal comments directed at him on this forum have been disgraceful (ie being called a con artist)

Ratten copped some nasty personal abuse as well in his final year as coach, its just not right.
 
Makes a bit of a change from saying we (Pies) don't have the cattle to play a game style other than the boundary line crap after overseeing recruitment for ten years for us in 2009.
Shit coach that got lucky few times along the way but a master dribbler.

In no way a shit coach. Very good coach that was at the cutting edge of the game for a long time. It's just that now he has gone one way and everyone else (except Hardwick) has gone the other way. He just doesn't have the players to change it....I almost feel sorry for him.
 
Brendan Bolton, the assistant at Hawthorn who covered for Clarko while he was sick, would have to be pretty high on our list of potential recruits for head coach. He's coming from a pretty decent system. He knows what's required to be the best. He has the experience. Sign him up.
 

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Sir Alex Ferguson kept winning trophies at Man U till he was 70, the current (and 4 time) Superbowl winning coach, Bill Belichick is 63) and 5 time NBA championship winning coach, Gregg Popovich coached another NBA title last year at age 65 ..

This ageist/over the hill/Mick is senile comments about Malthouse are degrading, irrelevant and offensive.

Said in a previous post about Mick and his age that older Australians are being marginalized in today's society

Thy agrees with this!
 
I assume previous Head Coaches are exempt?

David Rhys Jones has spotted an issue some of our players appear to be colour blind and can't differentiate between the Navy Blue and opposition colours.

Yes if they are still actively working in the AFL, so just off the top of my head for example it would be assistants like Voss, Ratten and Knights would be able to take a senior gig.
 
Brendan Bolton, the assistant at Hawthorn who covered for Clarko while he was sick, would have to be pretty high on our list of potential recruits for head coach. He's coming from a pretty decent system. He knows what's required to be the best. He has the experience. Sign him up.

I'm not saying yay or nay by any means, just thinking out loud (in forum terms lol)... He seems like a nice guy to me. He may be a great coach, I don't really know....but I'm not sure the unbeaten record in his career really has anything to do with his coaching ability. All he did was carry on Clarkson's game plan. Can a nice guy be a great coach? Same goes for Robert Harvey....they may be the smartest coaches going around...but do they have a side to their personality that the playing group fears? And in saying that....is that even that important anymore? lol

/thinkingoutload
 
In no way a shit coach. Very good coach that was at the cutting edge of the game for a long time. It's just that now he has gone one way and everyone else (except Hardwick) has gone the other way. He just doesn't have the players to change it....I almost feel sorry for him.
That cutting edge you speak of been pinched from the Saints, so shit coach might be a bit harsh but he isn't a great tactician.
Much better motivator and a father figure.
I'm one of the few pies man that can see getting rid of him cost us at least one more decent shot at a flag due to team harmonics but fair is fair - he clearly isn't the man to accept the blame for anything.
According to Mick we've lost the 2011 granny due to a few incorrect free kicks before half time and Swanny having a stinker and according to Mick you were nigh on his premiership clock not so long ago....
 
This would be nice.....probably a bit of a day dream though lol

Remember when we had Alan Richardson as senior assistant. Wish we just made him senior coach instead sacking him when we got MM. Every team he's ever been at has improved significantly....
when we had gavin brown and alan richardson we looked good. Our defence was sound, and we looked on our way up.
 
when we had gavin brown and alan richardson we looked good. Our defence was sound, and we looked on our way up.

That is the importance of good assistant coaches..we don't at present

Or at least the coaching group aren't on the same page..
 
sorry for intruding and correct me if I'm wrong but it's not possible to have Bassett as head coach, as he is not apart of the current group of assistants completing AFL's coaching level 4 accreditation course which is now required for coaches who want to apply for senior coaching gigs. I think Luke Beveridge was to be the last senior coach to be appointed without having completed the course.

The 9 assistants currently doing it are Brendan Bolton, Matthew Nicks, John Barker, Stuart Dew, Blake Caracella, Adam Kingsley, Simon Lloyd, Robert Harvey and Simon Goodwin who already has the Melbourne gig when Roos finishes up.
Thanks for that info. Had no idea there was qualifications needed to be a head coach.

Do you by anychance have a link about the course and the prerequesite.
 
Makes a bit of a change from saying we (Pies) don't have the cattle to play a game style other than the boundary line crap after overseeing recruitment for ten years for us in 2009.
Shit coach that got lucky few times along the way but a master dribbler.
He may be a dribbler but he's OUR dribbler. Now **** off!
 
I was told that at my wedding, she was a hard one to win over too, I had to pay her father many goats.
I was told I was punching above my weight division recently (ironically by a Hawthorn football identity)...he apologised shortly after but I pointed out it was the highest compliment a man could get.
 
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