List Mgmt. Mid-Season Draft - Who do we take?

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I think people are missing the point when they say that the list of players isn't very good. Who knows how good the list is? If this system had been around back in 2008, Rory Sloane would have been available. If it had been around in 1999, Matthew Pavlich would have been available.

Yes, most of the players are unlikely to play an AFL game. But what's the harm in taking a shot? $70k should be pocket change, and one more player in the group shouldn't have any meaningful impact on the amount of face-to-face coaching or resources we have to put in. This is akin to finding an unopened scratchy and thinking, well, I wouldn't want to risk breaking a fingernail, and I probably won't win so I'll just bin it instead.

Even if they are unlikely to play a game, who knows? Maybe they flourish when they move to an AFL system. Maybe we cop a horror month of injuries and suddenly they're the next up. Who knows? Well, we'll never know now.

The only potential benefit I can think of is that at least we can look at every player from our squad in the eye and say, you're here because we wanted you here, not because we had to fill a list spot.

You do realise only players who were previously in a national draft (amongst other restrictions) could be selected?
 
I don't get this logic? That is off next years cap not this years? So the only possible scenario is because we are already at the cap but in which case why would we make a spot available? We had a table set up in AFL house? The only reason we passed is the player we were after went before our pick. I'm guessing the ruckman that the swans got?

It's still someone you have to relocate only to delist in 3 months to make room on your cap. Considering no one is in a position to make an impact, it'd be wasting your time.

I doubt we were that heavily interested in anyone from this draft, and would just bank on them being passed over here, and in the national draft to get them as a rookie.
 
You do realise only players who were previously in a national draft (amongst other restrictions) could be selected?

Rory Sloane didn't get selected in the 2007 draft.
 

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What I thought sucked was seeing clubs exploit the mid-year draft and push injured players to retire (ie Richmond with Grigg).

It should be for clubs decimated with injuries (like Melbourne and St Kilda).

Also, teams like Sydney shouldn't be rewarded for poor list management (Tippett).
 
It's still someone you have to relocate only to delist in 3 months to make room on your cap. Considering no one is in a position to make an impact, it'd be wasting your time.

I doubt we were that heavily interested in anyone from this draft, and would just bank on them being passed over here, and in the national draft to get them as a rookie.

I disagree as if the said picked up player is showing his value then you delist another player who is potentially getting paid more anyway which frees up more salary cap.

I'm with you on the not that interested in anyone in this draft and had to be a part of it to please the AFL
 
I don't get this logic? That is off next years cap not this years? So the only possible scenario is because we are already at the cap but in which case why would we make a spot available? We had a table set up in AFL house? The only reason we passed is the player we were after went before our pick. I'm guessing the ruckman that the swans got?
Love the avatar BTW! Oh Mitch!

If we had planned on taking someone in the MSD and didn't we can rearrange a salary for this year so we open up a gap in the cap of $100k next year ready for Grundy, Rankine and an extension to Rowell/Anderson's contracts! :moustache:
 
I disagree as if the said picked up player is showing his value then you delist another player who is potentially getting paid more anyway which frees up more salary cap.

I'm with you on the not that interested in anyone in this draft and had to be a part of it to please the AFL

Who though? This is a pretty cut and dry year for delistings with our out of contract boys.

Like the only maybe at this point is Mackay.
 
Rory Sloane didn't get selected in the 2007 draft.
He may still not been picked in this draft ie a mid season one as our recruiters may have only decided to take the punt on him at pick 55 after a full season after his draft year, ie a full year of Footy.

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I don't get this logic? That is off next years cap not this years? So the only possible scenario is because we are already at the cap but in which case why would we make a spot available? We had a table set up in AFL house? The only reason we passed is the player we were after went before our pick. I'm guessing the ruckman that the swans got?
I think this is the most.likely scenario.

We made space to participate moving Doedee.to the LTIL. Haggis probably had four or five guys he wanted and they were.all taken.

No point adding a guy "just because". It may only be $70k cap space but in reality it is a bit more than that when you consider oncosts and cost to develop and accommodate (if not living in Adelaide)
Could easily by a $200k plus decision. Why waste that?

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I don't get this logic? That is off next years cap not this years? So the only possible scenario is because we are already at the cap but in which case why would we make a spot available? We had a table set up in AFL house? The only reason we passed is the player we were after went before our pick. I'm guessing the ruckman that the swans got?
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There's NO ONE in ANY league who we'd want to have on the list for three months

It's not anyone in any league, it's players who were in the last draft and were overlooked twice. There may be players we are keen on in the next draft, but they had to be in the last draft when we decided we didn't want them for us to pick them up in this one.
 

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Just looking at the highlights of Pickett who Richmond selected straight after us.... looks like a pretry pressing need we could have filled.

Dont tell me we're giving Mackay another 1 year contract so decided to save money.
27 year old with a past criminal record moving from WA with a wife and 3 kids for $50,000 and a guaranteed $20,000 if the Tigers don't re-contract him......what could possibly go wrong? Edit 4 kids.
 
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27 year old with a past criminal record moving from WA with a wife and 3 kids for $50,000 and a guaranteed $20,000 if the Tigers don't re-contract him......what could possibly go wrong?
Yeah but he has a great highlight reel......

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I'm waiting for the "Why didn't we re-rookie Jackson Edwards?" melt.
Was named for the Spotswood Ammos on thursday night but it looks like he didn't play on the weekend and certainly didn't play for Werribee VFL either, so far he's played two games for Spotswood Ammos for 1 goal and 0 times in the bests and 0 games for Werribee VFL. Looking like he should have returned to the Bays if he seriously wants a chance at the big time again.

http://websites.sportstg.com/team_info.cgi?pID=206094750
 
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Haven't heard of Zoom in AFL House? You'd think with multi-billion dollar deal they did they could have some video conferencing software thrown in!
 
Yep it’s a totally moronic idea and I hope the SANFL, West Adelaide and Glenelg come out strong about this. It’s even more incredulous that the State Leagues were against it and any changes they proposed were ignored.

Nearly all recent SANFL premiers are picked over heavily, Norwood, West, Sturt and now North. West losing two good midfielders just makes it harder for them to recover from all the players they lost after their flag and Glenelg losing arguably the best forward in the comp has totally derailed their season while leading the comp.

What a pointless disgrace.

I know these players want to get to the highest level and I don't blame them for that, it's not there fault.
I was resigned to the fact we would lose one player mid year but two was a surprise.
Noble was always going to be taken on potential because of his pace and hard running in the midfield.
Snelling is a hardworking good in and under player but he had already spent time on a list.

We've now lost Snelling, Noble, Burgess and Rankine in the last 6 months.
It's just so difficult for a team like West to replace that much quality and especially mid year.
The trouble is we get no compensation for a couple of those players...zero, no money to fund replacements.

What so many posters fail to factor in is the effect something like this has on football as a whole and a struggling club like West who already operate under a restricted salary cap.
We need to replace those players but we have limited finances, get no compensation and already struggle to attract quality recruits.
The aim in any comp is to win the premiership and to remain competitive. This in turn attracts patrons, sponsors and new recruits which ensures survival.

Inevitably we'll end up playing more juniors who'll try their best but aren't physically strong enough yet. Unfortunately this won't win us a lot more games this season.
Sure we get more games into these lads which theoretically should set us up for the future however if they show potential they get drafted and we fall again.
This is such a catch 22.

Why does it matter?
There are poster here who constantly voice 'stuff the SANFL' but they are quite literally morons or clueless to how the game survives and thrives as a whole in this state.
The AFL is the pinnacle and that is apparently all they see or enjoy.
Take your blinkers off for once and look at the bigger picture, do you really love the actual game of football?

The real aim is to get as many people enjoying football as possible at every level.
We want young kids to play or watch football over soccer, basketball or computer games.
The game needs to survive in country towns and suburban grounds to keep the interest alive.
It may sound a stretch but an Australian rules football club is one of the main economic and social drivers in smaller communities.

The SANFL clubs are one of a few bodies which nurture and fund the development of kids and provide quality competition for their improvement. This is the elite competition in this state which future AFL players are drafted from, (League and under 18's.)
The SANFL have the structures in place. The ovals, facilities, networks,umpires, and the hundreds of volunteers that give their time and energy to keep this development going. (All which cost dollars.)
Some of the hundreds of the players who don't make SANFL league teams eventually filter back to country and suburban football.
From that development pool comes the players and their abilities that fill the coffers of those clubs.

I read so much tripe about the AFL stepping in and running football in this state.
They may be prepared to fund a Crows and Port reserve team and an elite under 18's team but to fund a whole under 18's comp in this state would IMO be a logistical nightmare and the costs exorbitant.
And that is not factoring in the similar costs needed for an identical womens pathway, (our largest growing participation rate comp) or will that be ignored?
Plus those competitions only caters for a fraction of the actual football that is played here.

If the SANFL community did cease the ripple effect would be massive to football in this state.
That is why it is so important that the individual clubs which collectively are the SANFL must also survive.
Their development programs are one of the driving forces which guarantee the health of grassroots football for men and women in this state.
Development squads, underage pathways and running league teams costs money and their budgets are that tight that the money from drafting could be the difference in the long run to their survival.

Footballers deserve to play at the highest level but clubs need to be compensated for that loss and the flow on expenses that follow.
 
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