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3rd tall intercepting defender, 3rd tall marking forward, tall midfielder. Athletic/agile enough, not quick, not slow.
List Mgmt. Mid-Season Draft - Who do we take?
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Jesse White is currently playing down the Bay...
Finally there’s a way to get him into our list. You know you want it to happen...
Actually no. Leave him there. He’s doing a decent job for my poor tigers and, dare I say, we need him
Finally there’s a way to get him into our list. You know you want it to happen...
Actually no. Leave him there. He’s doing a decent job for my poor tigers and, dare I say, we need him
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I would back him to come in and have an impact this year as he has real x factor. Sure he is still getting up to AFL fitness but there are plenty of examples of kids coming in and doing well across the league after 1 afl preseason
Titanic.
Yep, once again the AFL is propping up the lowest common denominator. Club list sizes are ample to get well managed clubs through a season. Injuries have been around as long as the game, good clubs will be able to limit the number of injuries they sustain and will have adequate back ups on the list. It’s all part of good list management. Clubs who manage their list irresponsibly shouldn’t be given handouts just to get by.
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You must have seen a lot more in Lonergan than I have. I'd sooner snaffle former GCS 60 gamer big bodied mid/defender Jesse Lonergan out of the SANFL Eagles.
A ruckman who can play.
Generally true, but not necessarily. Plenty of promising seasons where sides where genuine contenders have been derailed by a run of injuries. You can plan and balance a squad well and still lose depth at a position to bad luck. Then its down to underdone kids or robbing from other positions.
I agree that good list management should be rewarded, but also support mitigating the impact of poor luck. A mid season draft is a pretty reasonable mechanism in my opinion.
'99, coming of back to back Premierships, in the days where most sides played 2 Ruckmen and they had relevance. We went into the season with Rehn, Pittman, Marsh, Herbert. Decent depth you'd think and Herbert a terrible bloody player so you could argue poor list management right there, but
Lost Rehn in the preseason, and Ben Marsh in the first couple rounds. Pittman wore down early in the season and broke down in the back half and we end up with Ormond-Allen in the ruck.
It was a poor year due to more than injury and not suggesting a mid season draft would have magically changed that. Would have been helpful though to be able to call up an SANFL veteran.
Lost Rehn in the preseason, and Ben Marsh in the first couple rounds. Pittman wore down early in the season and broke down in the back half and we end up with Ormond-Allen in the ruck.
It was a poor year due to more than injury and not suggesting a mid season draft would have magically changed that. Would have been helpful though to be able to call up an SANFL veteran.
You know what. Shit happens. There’s no need to transpose that shit further down the line to f*** up another team, another club in another competition. It should be totally restricted to AFL reserve, affiliated or academy teams.
And for the AFL to protect the NEAFL reserves and academy teams from the MSD is total bastardry.
Dont disagree that a midseason draft sucks for other leagues. i dont see that as reason enough not to have it though.
As you say, shit happens - isnt it the role of administrators to mitigate it as best they can?
Sure, if you want a totally protected, wrapped in cotton wool system where shit luck and shit decisions are constantly mitigated. They could’ve kept the MSD to AFL Reserves teams, affiliated clubs and the academy’s in the NEAFL, instead they’ve gone out of their way to protect the NEAFL and f*** over the stand alone clubs around the country with no compensation whatsoever.
It is a truly shit idea, system and further undermines anything under this bastardised half arsed structure that an antiquated VFL has imposed on the rest of the country. It totally ignores and negates the history and structures in place for over 100 years and focuses only on the needs and flippant wanton desires of a money hungry comp that’s been around for a babies fart in the bigger picture of Australian Rules history.
Truly baffling.
What about Lewis Johnston, seems to now be a massive accumulator of marks and disposals??
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I'm completely happy for the AFL to pluck players out of the lower leagues midseason and give them an opportunity on the big stage.
It happens in every other sport, and there's too much at stake for clubs to have a season ruined over an injury or two.
Players don't have to say yes, and clubs in the pro-am leagues can always lock people into binding contracts.
But I don't care whether a team in a state league loses a footballer. Realistically, they're all just the minor league now, so it's just not comparable.
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A bigger deal out west.
No.
He's had his time, and failed. I'd rather see if we could pluck a talented youngster who got overlooked in the draft.
We wouldn't take Matty Wright would we?
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A bigger deal out west.
Maybe not to your myopic little world and there is why your point lacks any wider focus or merit. It’s Olympic standard navel gazing that even a Victorian would be envious of.
What you also fail to acknowledge is that in “most other sports” they have such a thing as transfer fees and sell players like cattle, both don’t apply here, hence the bastardisation by the AFL.
Your points are just so innately dumb it’s hard to fathom, they are so narrowly focused in their appraisal that it’s hard not to think you’re not Michaelangelo Rucci.
We’re not taking anyone. No chance
With few injuries we have a Sanfl team chock full of blokes looking to get into too few spots in the best 22
We have no need of bringing in someone who will be too far down the pecking order
With few injuries we have a Sanfl team chock full of blokes looking to get into too few spots in the best 22
We have no need of bringing in someone who will be too far down the pecking order
The only reason I would if it was to grab someone permanently on the list, someone like a McAdam
Bullshit, we’ll take Matty Wright because we reward players who have done good things for the club over a long period.
Are you starting to come to terms with the fact that Sauce is locked in all year? We looked good when he was off, but when Mr Cooked returned it was for 100% TOG. Got his rests as a KPF. It’s just how we roll and it has zero to do with the form of the players that could replace him. Sauce has a gold pass and you were wrong.
You’ve been around long enough to realise that Sauce is locked in for every game that he puts his hand up for. Why recruit another SANFL ruckman. If we’d put $1m per season to Grundy, it would have been, “mate, we’ll give you $1m per year by 5 and you’ll be playing 1s from 2020. But right now Sauce is our man for the entirety of 2019, he’s earned it with past deeds. Yes, he’s shit now and was most of last year, but you reward players who’ve done good things over a long period of time at your footy club. That’ll be you in a few years too.”
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