Missed free kick after siren: changes result of tonight’s game

[hawkman]

Just imagine if this costs Essendon a finals spot. That would be really sad

 

[kaiserchief13]

Remember the Tasmanian fiasco? This should be the same

 

[Phone]

Lol that would’ve been disgusting if they paid that and it decided the game (bad rule). Then again they got a goal from that ridiculous double 50 rule so maybe it would’ve been a form of justice

well it's an extremely obvious rule to have in place to prevent shenanigans on the goal line. It's also written extremely simply, there's no room to excuse it because it didn't impact the goal, so it's quite odd that it's been seen and basically ignored. there's no room for discretion, and if it's deemed umpires should have that discretion, put it in the rules. it's a pretty indefensible decsion, regardless of essendon playing like shit which has nothing to do with it

 

[Mr_McBoogerBalls]

Just imagine if this costs Essendon a finals spot. That would be really sad

We won't get anywhere near finals, so jokes on you....waait, what?

 

[Captain Morgan]

Wow. Unbelievable.

For a second there I thought this was a giggle thread about a swans player humping the goal post.

The AFL do an amazing job covering up their rubbish umpiring decisions on Monday. This will fun to watch.

 

[RUNVS]

I don't blame the umpires for not calling it though. That free kick probably has not been given in 20 years and the umpires themselves were probably not 100% sure of the exact rule so they were probably terrified of calling it a 50-metre penalty and definitely 100% changing the result of the game only to find out later that they were wrong.

 

[Coaster2012]

The rule involves intentions. If the umpire determines that Rampe was only trying to climb the post, not intentionally shake it, then they cannot award a free kick.

Did you watch the footage? Hes launching himself up the post. How is that not going to shake the post? How ludicrous. That's the same logic as saying I didn't mean to punch him, I was just punching the air and he got in the way.

 

[The King!]

who cares it's perfect essendon fans can blame umps and ignore their team is shit

umpire told him to stop and he did

 

[Jabbbo]

Free kick from the top of the square. Essendon win.

Technically, the kick is taken from the centre of the GOAL LINE (not the top of the squre) so it could be argued as a certain goal.

 

[The Made Guy]

Remember the Tasmanian fiasco? This should be the same

They should return to the SCG on Tuesday night and have Myers take his kick again.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

For the record, reckon this is a completely cut-and-dried free kick. The umpire has ****ed up, majorly.

Also though, it’s a missed free kick. That’s all it is. Yes, it changes the result of the game. But personally, I’m not suggesting the result could be appealed or anything like that. It’s just an umpire error.

 

[Pklz]

Technically, the kick is taken from the centre of the GOAL LINE (not the top of the squre) so it could be argued as a certain goal.
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Not if Zac Clarke was kicking it.

 

[Substance]

Did you watch the footage? Hes launching himself up the post. How is that not going to shake the post? How ludicrous. That's the same logic as saying I didn't mean to punch him, I was just punching the air and he got in the way.

No, that's not the same logic. It's up to the umpires interpretation as to what Rampe's objective was. I think it's pretty clear he was trying to get higher to touch the ball on the line.

 

[quotemokc]

I am sure the AFL will tell us later in the week that the post has to shake x amount to be considered for a free kick

 

[RUNVS]

For the record, reckon this is a completely cut-and-dried free kick. The umpire has ****** up, majorly.

Also though, it’s a missed free kick. That’s all it is. Yes, it changes the result of the game. But personally, I’m not suggesting the result could be appealed or anything like that. It’s just an umpire error.

I am not disagreeing with you, but I also think that it is highly likely the umpires themselves were not as aware of the rule and the consequences of the action as they should have been since it has been so long since that free kick was paid. I mean I can't remember it ever being paid, so it must have been a very long time.

 

[Sentinel]

Remember the Tasmanian fiasco? This should be the same

There is no possible way they could award Essendon the win retrospectively short of returning to the SCG - the penalty against Rampe would be a free kick, not a goal.

Sirengate was completely different.

 

[Phone]

I don't blame the umpires for not calling it though. That free kick probably has not been given in 20 years and the umpires themselves were probably not 100% sure of the exact rule so they were probably terrified of calling it a 50-metre penalty and definitely 100% changing the result of the game only to find out later that they were wrong.

no way this is a thing, these guys are just about the only people in the game who actually read the rules, but the stuff afterwards is exactly what's happened. the kick didn't have a chance so the umpire didn't want to effectively overturn the result of the game, but then he's arguably done that by ignoring the violation anyway.

(unless he truly thought he wasn't shaking the post, but uh...)

 

[Bunk Moreland]

who cares it's perfect essendon fans can blame umps and ignore their team is ****

umpire told him to stop and he did

That actually makes it worse. If the umpire just didn’t see it, you’d understand more.

 

[Coaster2012]

No, that's not the same logic. It's up to the umpires interpretation as to what Rampe's objective was. I think it's pretty clear he was trying to get higher to touch the ball on the line.

We've truly lost the plot in our game if reading minds is an essential skill for umpiring.

 

[Jabbbo]

There is no possible way they could award Essendon the win retrospectively - the penalty against Rampe would be a free kick, not a goal.

Sirengate was completely different.

The kick would be taken from the centre of the GOAL LINE (not the top of the square)

No chance the afl will do anything but i am interested in what their response is.

 

[Sammymoite]

It was the correct decision not to pay a free kick. A free kick should be paid if he was deliberately shaking the post. Dane Rampe had no intention of shaking the post, his intention was to get higher in order to possible spoil a kick nearing that post at the goal line.

Essendon tears are delicious though.

Yep you’re absolutely right. In the meantime any accidental high tackles, pushes in the back shouldn’t be paid as they weren’t deliberate either etc etc.

The anti-essendon nuffies are ironically even worse than the Essendon nuffies.

 

[Captain Morgan]

The afl just announced via twitter that the player didn’t shake the post he just gave it a wiggle, which is a different type of shake.

Play on was the correct call.

 

[Plugger35]

It was stupid from Rampe but it would have been even more stupid if the umpires handed Essendon a matchwinning goal for a kick that fell well short.

 

[Thebisc]

The rule involves intentions. If the umpire determines that Rampe was only trying to climb the post, not intentionally shake it, then they cannot award a free kick.[/

The rule involves intentions. If the umpire determines that Rampe was only trying to climb the post, not intentionally shake it, then they cannot award a free kick.

As Rampe scales post...

Umpire: “Dane, are you trying to shake the post or just climbing?”
Rampe: “just climbing, I think”
Umpire: “all good”

 

[RUNVS]

no way this is a thing, these guys are just about the only people in the game who actually read the rules, but the stuff afterwards is exactly what's happened. the kick didn't have a chance so the umpire didn't want to effectively overturn the result of the game, but then he's arguably done that by ignoring the violation anyway.

(unless he truly thought he wasn't shaking the post, but uh...)

Are you sure though? I mean do you think every police officer knows every law? I mean the AFL rule book is huge, so it is easy to imagine the umpires not knowing a few of the more obscure ones.