Missed free kick after siren: changes result of tonight’s game

[Tex9798]

Not sure how anyone can defend it and say he didn't intentionally shake the post.

The word "intentionally" would most likely be specified in the rule to differentiate between people who intentionally make contact with the post and those that accidentally bump into it as part of a contest.

Rampe intentionally jumped onto the post which resulted it in clearly shaking.

Clear free kick to me.

 

[Shane_Mag]

Welcome to the AFL where we only enforce the rules (that we made) when we see fit.

 

[philthy05]

Not sure how anyone can defend it and say he didn't intentionally shake the post.

The word "intentionally" would most likely be specified in the rule to differentiate between people who intentionally make contact with the post and those that accidentally bump into it as part of a contest.

Rampe intentionally jumped onto the post which resulted it in clearly shaking.

Clear free kick to me.

Yep. This is what I’ve been saying


When the afl came out with their it was the right call statement any Media rep worth anything should have put this to them. They would have been stumped.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

it is honestly laughable that anyone can come to the conclusion that this is not a free kick.

He chose to deliberately jump onto a ****ing goal post whilst someone else was shooting for goal, said goal post moved. Free kick.

Regardless though we did not deserve to win that game, it was a pathetic performance and deserved a loss.

move on.

the only outcome here is that rampe should get his ****in head read.

 

[Ambrosia]

Not sure how anyone can defend it and say he didn't intentionally shake the post.

The word "intentionally" would most likely be specified in the rule to differentiate between people who intentionally make contact with the post and those that accidentally bump into it as part of a contest.

Rampe intentionally jumped onto the post which resulted it in clearly shaking.

Clear free kick to me.

This is the way I see it. The AFL have made it news by trying to defend a clear free kick. Umpires make mistakes.

 

[carnthedons]

Yep. This is what I’ve been saying


When the afl came out with their it was the right call statement any Media rep worth anything should have put this to them. They would have been stumped.

And risk their accreditation by questioning the leader? No way known.

We’ve always been at war with Eastasia

 

[Total_Juddshanks]

This is the least complicated, least arguable argument ever.

1. Rampe committed an infringement.

2. The umpire saw he committed an infringement.

3. The umpire failed to pay a clear free kick in circumstances where he had seen the player infringing.

4. This changed the result of the game.

That's literally all there is to it, anyone trying to bring in Essendon's past behaviour or other parts of the game are just kidding themselves, it's an obvious injustice and whoever you support you surely have to accept that.

It wont happen but in all seriousness if there is ever an incident which justified going to arbitration to overturn the result of a game this is it- most times when free kick scandals happen there's some argument about what was done or whether the umpire saw it but here its not remotely a gray area, you can't have officials just arbitrarily deciding not to follow the rules.

 

[Tigerandy63]

[QUOTE="Acinath, post: 60804066, member: 155297"I just think there are a lot of Essendon fans looking at the wrong thing here.[/QUOTE]

This is as valid as any point made. In a game they desperately needed to win, but weren't good enough to achieve, someone or something else must be to blame.

 

[kingswood71]

This is the least complicated, least arguable argument ever.

1. Rampe committed an infringement.

2. The umpire saw he committed an infringement.

3. The umpire failed to pay a clear free kick in circumstances where he had seen the player infringing.

4. This changed the result of the game.

That's literally all there is to it, anyone trying to bring in Essendon's past behaviour or other parts of the game are just kidding themselves, it's an obvious injustice and whoever you support you surely have to accept that.

In all seriousness if there is ever an incident which justified going to arbitration to overturn the result of a game this is it- most times when free kick scandals happen there's some argument about what was done or whether the umpire saw it but here its not remotely a gray area, you can't have officials just arbitrarily deciding not to follow the rules.

And the evidence for that is the umpire asking him to get down....if it wasnt kinda against the rules, he would have let him stay perched up there

 

[Spectore]

I'm amazed anyone thinks the umpire got it wrong. Imagine how many ridiculous frees would be paid each game if every incidental rule violation was penalised.

 

[gavaniacono]

Pretty clear cut.
What a nong that swans player was.
Would have been good though if Myers had actually had a shot at goal rather than popping it up to the hot spot, AFTER THE SIREN.

Did anyone understand any rules last night?

If I was running the AFL everyone would be eating their greens AND washing the dishes this week.

 

[D-N-R]

If the umpire warned him, then it was for transgressing a rule.

Gil reckons it's like warning a player who's gone over a mark. I would disagree as the mark is an imaginary spot on the ground and it is common sense to know that the player might not know its exact position. I've seen plenty of players who would know where the mark was get punished for charging over the mark, so they're not always warned.

Most players and fans would know not to use the post to help elevate themselves whether that's to pull yourself up with the padding or try and push off with the leg. I've never seen a player try it. Ever. Until I saw this vision.

 

[carnthedons]

[QUOTE="Acinath, post: 60804066, member: 155297"I just think there are a lot of Essendon fans looking at the wrong thing here.

This is as valid as any point made. In a game they desperately needed to win, but weren't good enough to achieve, someone or something else must be to blame.[/QUOTE]
There are dozens of post from Essendon fans saying we played terribly and didn’t deserve to win but sure, ignore that

 

[Downhill Skier]

Who would have thought the Melb media brigade would be up in arms over a Vic team getting 1 bad call in a game they got the rub of the green pretty much all night .

 

[FreoRicci]

Ha. Gilligan . Really ? Common sense yet it’s in the rules
Throwing grass is apparently 50, but shaking the post is not. Make up your mind.

 

[Saint Shags]

This is the least complicated, least arguable argument ever.

1. Rampe committed an infringement.

2. The umpire saw he committed an infringement.

3. The umpire failed to pay a clear free kick in circumstances where he had seen the player infringing.

4. This changed the result of the game.

That's literally all there is to it, anyone trying to bring in Essendon's past behaviour or other parts of the game are just kidding themselves, it's an obvious injustice and whoever you support you surely have to accept that.

It wont happen but in all seriousness if there is ever an incident which justified going to arbitration to overturn the result of a game this is it- most times when free kick scandals happen there's some argument about what was done or whether the umpire saw it but here its not remotely a gray area, you can't have officials just arbitrarily deciding not to follow the rules.

So I look forward to all warnings being taken out and 50x 50 metre infringements a game. And another 40 free kicks per match for every time the umps would warn players to focus on the game. Would be so much bitching and moaning.
Was it a free kick. Yes.
Was the ump like in any other moment of the game able to warn the player first? Yes. Rampe stopped. Had he continued then fair play to award the free.

 

[theyellowsash]

Down down, is no different to get back on the mark the umps communicate with players about. Storm in a tea cup, but funny all the same.

Thing is that when judging the mark, the player has no point of reference or may not have been at the spot when the mark was taken, so it's reasonable for the umpire to tell them where the mark is by telling them to take a step back.

The posts don't move. Rampe knew where the post was and deliberately climbed it. That's the difference.

 

[wal]

Shake -

verb (used without object), shook, shak·en, shak·ing.
to move or sway with short, quick, irregular vibratory movements.

He did not shake the post, the post may have moved due him climbing, but by definition he did not shake the post so the umpire would have been incorrect to penalise him.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Official word from City Hall: not worthy of a mention.

So much so, we’ll make a mention of it not being worth a mention

 

[Phone]

That's only in regards to match review panel stuff, now that they do the Friday review mid round

 

[Mercy Seat]

After booing vets and servicemen last week, I thought Essendon supporters might leave the whinging be for a little bit.

The fact this thread was started 90 minutes after the siren went suggests that very few of their supporters knew it was a potential infringement. Hardly worth getting upset about.

 

[The Gong]

Oh just have the 4 points, Bombers. We're meant to be tanking for a first draft pick and didn't mean to win the match anyway.

 

[boncer34]

After booing vets and servicemen last week, I thought Essendon supporters might leave the whinging be for a little bit.

The fact this thread was started 90 minutes after the siren went suggests that very few of their supporters knew it was a potential infringement. Hardly worth getting upset about.

Uh that was 2 weeks ago.

If you're gonna troll at least get it right champ.

 

[Ice-Wolf]

No, it’s when the umpire hears the siren, which may I add is a lot sooner than when it comes through on the TV.

So you're saying that the AFL owes St Kilda over Sirengate then.

 

[BG32]

Gil came out and threw fuel onto the bonfire when he said common sense was the right call, yet rules overwrite common sense.