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[sounda]

Key word in your post is 'business'. Are we members of a business or a club? We think it's the latter, the club treats us like it's the former.

Curious thing - The WCE licence for the VFL / AFL was founded by a publicly listed company - IPL. That company raised funds on the back of issuing unsecured notes = note holders. From memory - the only purpose of IPS was to raise dollars for the WCE. Without researching - memory tells me that the licence cost around 4 or 4.5 million dollars in 1986 and we still pay royalties (big dollars) back to the AFL today. Those initial funds (Brisbane Bears paid as well) were used to prop up 7 VFL clubs who were 'technically' insolvent and whose finances were being investigated by the Corporate Affairs Dept. A letter from the Commissioner of the Corporate Affairs Dept was sent to the Chairman of the VFL to explain what they would be doing to remedy the finances of the 7 clubs? The rest is history.

Given that the background of the WCE was a business transaction to begin with - it is not unreasonable that many of their transactions and dealings will reflect basic business principles. Indeed, I sometimes look at the profit and loss figures of some of the AFL 'clubs' and many of them are still struggling to survive financially. As a result, they have become reliant upon the AFL redistributing millions dollars from financially successful clubs (Collingwood, Hawthorn, Essendon, WCE and Adelaide etc.). Many of those failing clubs pride themselves on the 'club' aspect - which might be an attractive thing to some. However, without the subsidies provided by the 'business' clubs they might well struggle to field a team. The dollars other clubs and their members pay (as well as the concessions provided) to GWS is a crime.

Anyway, that's my rant and hope my facts are basically correct. Excuse typos - am rushing!

 

[Bender_]

Curious thing - The WCE licence for the VFL / AFL was founded by a publicly listed company - IPL. That company raised funds on the back of issuing unsecured notes = note holders. From memory - the only purpose of IPS was to raise dollars for the WCE. Without researching - memory tells me that the licence cost around 4 or 4.5 million dollars in 1986 and we still pay royalties (big dollars) back to the AFL today. Those initial funds (Brisbane Bears paid as well) were used to prop up 7 VFL clubs who were 'technically' insolvent and whose finances were being investigated by the Corporate Affairs Dept. A letter from the Commissioner of the Corporate Affairs Dept was sent to the Chairman of the VFL to explain what they would be doing to remedy the finances of the 7 clubs? The rest is history.

Given that the background of the WCE was a business transaction to begin with - it is not unreasonable that many of their transactions and dealings will reflect basic business principles. Indeed, I sometimes look at the profit and loss figures of some of the AFL 'clubs' and many of them are still struggling to survive financially. As a result, they have become reliant upon the AFL redistributing millions dollars from financially successful clubs (Collingwood, Hawthorn, Essendon, WCE and Adelaide etc.). Many of those failing clubs pride themselves on the 'club' aspect - which might be an attractive thing to some. However, without the subsidies provided by the 'business' clubs they might well struggle to field a team. The dollars other clubs and their members pay (as well as the concessions provided) to GWS is a crime.

Anyway, that's my rant and hope my facts are basically correct. Excuse typos - am rushing!

I'd just like a balance between the 2.

 

[Cuzz09]

Dont reckon Id pay $800 for a seat.

Reckon my mum pays like $300 a season for decent Adelaide Oval crows season tix.



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[BartBart]

Dont reckon Id pay $800 for a seat.

Reckon my mum pays like $300 a season for decent Adelaide Oval crows season tix.



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Sounds like you might be a candidate for the $500 ones or the 3/5 seat membership?

 

[flamingEMBERS]

LoL sorry, you can't guarantee it at all. You're simply making an assumption.

Additionally I never said I 'own' the seat, but I don't think it's too much to ask to recognise my years of membership.

You didn't answer my question earlier either. So you're currently a member and will be renewing at the new stadium?

The amenities, the actual seat, the public transport will be better. With the oval being smaller everyone will always be closer to the ball.

Seated member, wanting to upgrade to the good seats.

 

[matt_bas]

Finally spoke to WC regarding noteholders. I asked what happens as a note holder if I take cat B tickets about my finals priority. I was told 'I don't know.' After checking with there manager I was then told 'The club doesn't what will happen regarding Note Holders.' What. A. Joke.

 

[BartBart]

So are we likely to getting emails about the next lot of seating from Wednesday?

 

[BartBart]

Finally spoke to WC regarding noteholders. I asked what happens as a note holder if I take cat B tickets about my finals priority. I was told 'I don't know.' After checking with there manager I was then told 'The club doesn't what will happen regarding Note Holders.' What. A. Joke.

To be fair, they only just found out about the stadium being built.

 

[flamingEMBERS]

Finally spoke to WC regarding noteholders. I asked what happens as a note holder if I take cat B tickets about my finals priority. I was told 'I don't know.' After checking with there manager I was then told 'The club doesn't what will happen regarding Note Holders.' What. A. Joke.

That's absolutely pathetic by the club.

 

[footygdzzz545]

That's absolutely pathetic by the club.

Seconded

 

[sounda]

I'd just like a balance between the 2.

Yes - I agree. I think that they do need to find a better balance.

 

[sounda]

Finally spoke to WC regarding noteholders. I asked what happens as a note holder if I take cat B tickets about my finals priority. I was told 'I don't know.' After checking with there manager I was then told 'The club doesn't what will happen regarding Note Holders.' What. A. Joke.

Yep ... that's not very good. They need to have prepared answers for those kinds of questions because given the seating categories and attaching benefits - those questions would / should have been entirely foreseeable.

 

[matt_bas]

To be fair, they only just found out about the stadium being built.

To be fair. This membership has been in my family since day 1. It's a questions they should know the awnser to as it effects many memberships.

 

[archiemoses]

I'm certain west coast eagles staff would monitor this thread, so hopefully you get a proper answer. Would be incredibly amateur if they legitimately didn't consider this.

 

[BartBart]

Although the speculation has been going for more than a week & they still aren't sure.

 

[W.C. Fry]

When did / does the noteholder selection window close?

 

[Jed Clampet]

Finally spoke to WC regarding noteholders. I asked what happens as a note holder if I take cat B tickets about my finals priority. I was told 'I don't know.' After checking with there manager I was then told 'The club doesn't what will happen regarding Note Holders.' What. A. Joke.

I think the club expected the note holders to take the expensive seats and maybe shocked some have chosen the cheaper option, which I would.
I know a few note holders that opted to change to cat B seats, probably don't realise they won't get grand final priority.
The club was trying to get rid of the note holder option a few years ago but couldn't. Maybe this is their way of getting rid of them.
Good luck hope you don't lose the advantage of being a note holder.

 

[BartBart]

When did / does the noteholder selection window close?

Tomorrow for some but not sure they all do.

 

[W.C. Fry]

Tomorrow for some but not sure they all do.

God its going to be a slow process if they all don't finish tomorrow. Especially if it is the same sort of window for the next lot. Would imagine it would be 30 year members window opens, then 29, 28, 27 and so on...

 

[flamingEMBERS]

I think the club expected the note holders to take the expensive seats and maybe shocked some have chosen the cheaper option, which I would.
I know a few note holders that opted to change to cat B seats, probably don't realise they won't get grand final priority.
The club was trying to get rid of the note holder option a few years ago but couldn't. Maybe this is their way of getting rid of them.
Good luck hope you don't lose the advantage of being a note holder.

At least with notes, you could have a run of the mill seat and get priority. Now only the good seats have priority. Not really the way to go about it if you ask me.

 

[matt_bas]

I think the club expected the note holders to take the expensive seats and maybe shocked some have chosen the cheaper option, which I would.
I know a few note holders that opted to change to cat B seats, probably don't realise they won't get grand final priority.
The club was trying to get rid of the note holder option a few years ago but couldn't. Maybe this is their way of getting rid of them.
Good luck hope you don't lose the advantage of being a note holder.

Cheers mate. At the end of the day, $830 is to much to pay for the footy for me. Especially as it's not undercover. I'm much happier where I moved to at a cheaper price

 

[mick06]

Logged into my sisters fremantle account to have a look around and the prices once you log in and can view and pick your seats are different to some of what is shown in the preview that everyone can get in to look at.

Has anybody noticed this for the eagles as they are looking around?

 

[Quinz]

Have you other non-noteholder people got the email letting them know when their window is? I haven't got one yet.

 

[larrikin]

Have you other non-noteholder people got the email letting them know when their window is? I haven't got one yet.

Nope

 

[oak79]

God its going to be a slow process if they all don't finish tomorrow. Especially if it is the same sort of window for the next lot. Would imagine it would be 30 year members window opens, then 29, 28, 27 and so on...

I doubt it would be 1 year at a time. Probably more like 4-5 year groupings. There wouldn't actually be many people with 30+ consecutive years membership.