Now I'm confused???? you hate him, you like him, you're over him??? which one is it mate?
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Now I'm confused???? you hate him, you like him, you're over him??? which one is it mate?
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Read this earlier and I gotta say, stfu Bucks. Honestly. I'm getting really sick and tired of all the talk talk talk talk.
If you get interviewed and someone asks about us? Just have a standard response.."We'll do the best we can and see how we go". Then no one can be disappointed or pissed off. Because if you say that and we're still shit, then people will accept we're just shit.
Because against Carlton, we looked exactly like 2014 Collingwood. So I'm trying to see where we're suddenly going to get this improvement from.
If you get interviewed and someone asks about us? Just have a standard response.."We'll do the best we can and see how we go". Then no one can be disappointed or pissed off. Because if you say that and we're still shit, then people will accept we're just shit.
Because against Carlton, we looked exactly like 2014 Collingwood. So I'm trying to see where we're suddenly going to get this improvement from.
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We as supporters should take for granted that this is the ambition. Obviously when you're not the best team in the comp, you've got areas to work on. So transition, disposal efficiency, goals for/against, contested ball and clearances are will always be the areas that seperate the best from the rest.
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Bucks is my favourite player ever. He does press conferences good. Real good.
Cousin of Daicos
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He card reads good.
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We are the worst at it but we're aiming to be the best at it. WOW
It would be hilarious if it wasn't that sad.
Maybe one day we'll have a thread with the "Bucks does" in the title instead of the perennial "Bucks says" fodder for the masses.
It would be hilarious if it wasn't that sad.
Maybe one day we'll have a thread with the "Bucks does" in the title instead of the perennial "Bucks says" fodder for the masses.
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I'm a big fan of bucks (the coach), his knowledge of the game is fantastic and I believe he is creating a good environment now he is getting the things in place that he requires and with that will come success. He has had the worst luck with getting his best 22 on the field consistantly over the last couple of years so it's very difficult to execute a game plan when you do have all your best players playing together, with some luck this year we should see dramatic improvement as the year progresses
If u succeed at it isnt that the point of it all?
Not real sure the point u trying to make, mind u it is friday morning and im still trying to wake up
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I'd put my house on this never happening.
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Exactly what I was thinking. Enough talk....just show something on gameday and we will all be happy
Didn't look too promising against Carlton in either of those departments with the 22 fielded.
Hopefully we can clean it up vs dogs at Etihad where wind won't be a factor.
If we can't hit a target at Etihad stadium god help us.
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Actions speak louder than words, i lot of us need to see it to regain confidence in where we are going
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I honestly don't understand how anyone can get so salty over Buckley saying that we're trying to improve and become the best in an aspect of our game.
And then use a NAB Cup game as an example of "how nothing has changed".
Baffling, but not surprising.
And then use a NAB Cup game as an example of "how nothing has changed".
Baffling, but not surprising.
Good thing we have so many elite kicks in the back half like... er.... Scharenberg?
Reid when he comes back.
Langdon is a good kick in general believe his fluffs are due to fatigue more then anything last year.
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Take a back seat from being an assistant coach?
He consistently avoided the limelight if you recall and wouldn't be drawn on commenting at all.
Our Premiership coach on the other hand couldn't stop talking.
From what I have heard, (and saw) our PC behaved like a petulant child who'd been told to go to bed earlier than he wanted and sulked it up.
Banning one of your asst. coaches, (and the heir to your throne) from stepping foot in your office, (allegedly) is not a good look at any time.
If your "take a back seat" reference is to ask should he have declined to take the job in 2012, I don't think so.
The thought process that we would be better off with our PC still coaching is an assumption and one we will never know the answer to.
Yes mistakes have been made and I'd, (maybe naively) think we are learning from them.
It's important that transitional play has been highlighted as an area we want to be the league leaders as. Goals are important, players and coaches understand what they are working towards and can set about trying to achieve that.
When you compare someone like Hawthorn and their ability to setup successful transition football it stems their abundance of quality kicking options in the backline Birchall, Suckling, Gibson, Mitchell, Hodge, Burgoyne and then through the midfield in Smith, Hill and Cyril.
When you compare our backline we just don't have the same kicking talent, I'd consider Langdon, Reid and Seedsman as worthy kicking options. Williams can perhaps be forgiven sometimes for the amount of run from the backline he gives us.
The important thing is the club has identified this as an area we need to improve through drafting; I would consider Sharenberg and Maynard to be of the elite kicking category and training: Kicking specialist currently being used and the importance and training we are placing on decision making.
When you compare someone like Hawthorn and their ability to setup successful transition football it stems their abundance of quality kicking options in the backline Birchall, Suckling, Gibson, Mitchell, Hodge, Burgoyne and then through the midfield in Smith, Hill and Cyril.
When you compare our backline we just don't have the same kicking talent, I'd consider Langdon, Reid and Seedsman as worthy kicking options. Williams can perhaps be forgiven sometimes for the amount of run from the backline he gives us.
The important thing is the club has identified this as an area we need to improve through drafting; I would consider Sharenberg and Maynard to be of the elite kicking category and training: Kicking specialist currently being used and the importance and training we are placing on decision making.
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I think you missed the "aims to be" aspect of the story Dave. Still a work in progress.
We all love the club but we have terrible footskills and seem to butcher our kicks either by poor decisions or execution.
Until this is remedied I cannot see how we can move to within the 10th best transition side.
Until this is remedied I cannot see how we can move to within the 10th best transition side.
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Or just cowering under a desk rocking back and forward....
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It's just another no-winner really... talks and people say STFU, doesn't talk and people complain about the lack of communication...
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I think you all need to re-read the title of this thread!
It states very clearly it is the AIM of Collingwood to be the best transition team
Surely that's what everyone wants them to be striving for.
End of story really
It states very clearly it is the AIM of Collingwood to be the best transition team
Surely that's what everyone wants them to be striving for.
End of story really
Cousin of Daicos
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How about we aim to be a decent side first. You have to crawl before you walk and walk before you run. I mean, if you're going to aim high from such a low position, maybe give a time frame for context no? Is that our aim for 2015? 16? 17? Because realistically, going from being the worst to the best at something that's not a basic "footy skill" (kicking, handballing, shooting for goal) doesn't happen overnight.
I really don't rate Langdon's kicking that highly. It's fine, but I've notice him turn the ball over quite a bit.
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