Nathan Vardy

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Noel Gallagher said:
Sorry folks but we stuffed this one as well. Our picks of KP players in the pelchin era is atrocious. Hate to kick a man while he's down but I made the call weeks ago that Lilse wasn't afl standard. His performance bordered on embarrasing yesterday and his goose is pretty much cooked.

I remember the Grimley/Vardy draft clearly. Vardy was one of the highest rated ruckmen of that year. Couldn't believe that we picked an untried and unproven basket ball player over a proven ruckmen. Speculate all you want over grimley, fact is that he is barely making an impact at the box Hill SECONDS whilst vardy is being talked up (with good reason) as the next big thing. I have seen absolutely nothing to suggest that Grimley will even make the grade let alone become the so called gun player some are already predicting. Pelchen had his chance with a ex basketball player in Pendelbury and stuffed that one as well.

Good riddance to pelchen, this is the man who drafted Thorpe, Dowler, and Lilse. Thorpe has since gone awol since being delisted and dowler is hardly tearing it up in the EDFL. He has in fairness had some wins lately with savage, lowden and shiels but fact is that his misses far outweigh his hits, hence him being shown the door.
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Lisle was very impressive on the weekend - 5 marks as a genuine leading target and I don't think Franklin would have taken any of them. His work up until the moment of THAT kick was very good. He was incredibly nervous kicking for goal (was extremely stilted), but he's generally a good kick for goal, certainly a better set-shot than most of our other forwards. He fell apart after that shot, and simply didn't want the ball.

Vardy was a man against boys - there were doubts on his ability to transition those performances to senior level, whilst our drafting of Grimley had the Pies recruiters absolutely furious (and tbh looking for a snitch). Grimley was a 4 year prospect, and was estimated to be 2-3 pre-seasons behind Vardy - who was also a "type" of ruckman we were moving away from.

Thorp had amazing talent, but his body just fell apart. Medical reports were clear, Selwood's were terrible - cannot fault that decision, was rated by many as one of the steals of the draft. His ego was a great factor in his rating, along with his ability to play anywhere on the field.

Dowler took a long time to get over his physical injuries and complications, but there were mental aspects that weren't right. This was a calculated gamble that his talent would shine through and overcome his lack of confidence.

As I said before, Lisle looks a promising prospect.
 
savagelunchbox said:
A few years ago Essendon drafted a ruckman and played him as a KPD. One game, when they were desperate for a tall to play in the ruck, they played this KPD there and look what happened. Turns out he was best suited to playing in the ruck.

Anyone remember who this player is?

(Also not including this players inconsistency. That is subjective to each player and Grimley may not have inconsistency.)
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Patty Ryder?
 

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Noel Gallagher said:
Sorry folks but we stuffed this one as well. Our picks of KP players in the pelchin era is atrocious. Hate to kick a man while he's down but I made the call weeks ago that Lilse wasn't afl standard. His performance bordered on embarrasing yesterday and his goose is pretty much cooked..
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Just because you made the call doesn't mean you were right. He did everything right on the weekend except for his kicking for goal. He's normally a reliable shot, so there's no reason to believe he's not AFL standard based on a few nervous shanks.
 
Ryder was the KPD that turned into a Ruckman? He was always seen as a ruckman of the tweener variety who had 'potential', but no real form as a KP player.

To be honest, I think they're still trying to find his 'best' spot. They may need to locate his ticker first though.
 
Echols said:
The fact we've now got people writing off Grimley on the back of someone from another club altogether having played their 3rd game astounds me.
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Not me.
 
The_Air_Up_There said:
I went to school with Grimley and im still baffled that he's on an AFL list. I personally just dont see him become an A-Grade player... I think he's a bit unco and is a project player that may never gel to the game, he's a basketballer and his very light framed.
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Dont doubt you have seen more of him than I. At 199cms, quick and a nice kick of the footy he was going to end up on someone's list. He can judge the ball in the air and has a nice bit of sh!te about him.

I'd love to see him develop as a FB. His frame is the concern. We tend to keep our talls thin, in comparison to the Swans and the Handbags.

He is in development mode. From the little I have seen he is coming along.
 
It's very difficukt to follow some of the logic used in this thread. However, as a suggestion, let Gibbo take pods. Shoey to Ottens, and bring Lowden in for Vardy. Might be a good starter for Luke.

Thouhts!
 
Thaihawk said:
It's very difficukt to follow some of the logic used in this thread. However, as a suggestion, let Gibbo take pods. Shoey to Ottens, and bring Lowden in for Vardy. Might be a good starter for Luke.

Thouhts!
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My first thought is that Schoenmaker better bring some lube.

My second thought is that your argument/fear is flawed. Opposition teams, or even team's own supporters, like to think about the danger of having two or three tall forwards in a forward line to stretch the opposition's defense. The fact of that matter however is that these experiments almost without exception fail.
 
Can't remember the last time i feared geelongs tall forwards, maybe when ablett and brownless were playing. Their tall forwards are the least of our worry and have been for quite some time.
 
Hawk43 said:
Can't remember the last time i feared geelongs tall forwards, maybe when ablett and brownless were playing. Their tall forwards are the least of our worry and have been for quite some time.
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Correct. You have to be a little wary of Pods, but Ottens is not going to kick 5 goals again and is still too slow to be a regular forward option. As promising as Vardy looks he's not going to kick 4-5 or anything like that.

Thankfully we're good in other areas, but our key forwards are far from a major threat. Just my two cents.
 
Bailey and Roughead vs Ottens and Vardy.

Still wish we had Vardy?
Because if we did, he wouldnt be playing seniors.
 

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goodoldcats said:
your right wouldnt get a game hawthorn have one the the strongest ruck divisions in the league :rolleyes:
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Simon_Nesbit said:
Lisle was very impressive on the weekend - 5 marks as a genuine leading target and I don't think Franklin would have taken any of them. His work up until the moment of THAT kick was very good. He was incredibly nervous kicking for goal (was extremely stilted), but he's generally a good kick for goal, certainly a better set-shot than most of our other forwards. He fell apart after that shot, and simply didn't want the ball.

Vardy was a man against boys - there were doubts on his ability to transition those performances to senior level, whilst our drafting of Grimley had the Pies recruiters absolutely furious (and tbh looking for a snitch). Grimley was a 4 year prospect, and was estimated to be 2-3 pre-seasons behind Vardy - who was also a "type" of ruckman we were moving away from.

Thorp had amazing talent, but his body just fell apart. Medical reports were clear, Selwood's were terrible - cannot fault that decision, was rated by many as one of the steals of the draft. His ego was a great factor in his rating, along with his ability to play anywhere on the field.

Dowler took a long time to get over his physical injuries and complications, but there were mental aspects that weren't right. This was a calculated gamble that his talent would shine through and overcome his lack of confidence.

As I said before, Lisle looks a promising prospect.
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This part isnt the reason he fell so far. Vardy was actually quite skinny when he was drafted to the club, hes put on close to 15 kegs now to be close to the 100kgs mark.
The reason he slipped was due to his height, he is only 198 cm IIRC and clubs hadnt yet decided the mobile "Leigh Brown" style ruckman was the way of the future. Remember Mark Blake had just won himself a premiership medal :eek:.
Geelong have been quite fortunate that this new breed of ruck has become the trend as Vardy fits the bill perfectly. In his first few VFL matches the club was playing him at CHF.

gb:cool:
 
The Birch said:
Pick 42 in 2009 National draft, we took Sam Grimley at pick 39. I know it is to early to tell or cast judgement but I thought at the time Vardy was a good player to let slip, as he was touted as the second best ruckman behind Big Max Gawn. I hope I am proven wrong but Grimley will have to be quite good to be better than Vardy on his last 2 games he has played as I can't see Hawkins getting back in the side to replace him.

Vardy looks a real prospect and maybe the new sub rule suits his style, something not considered back in 2009; as it was not something we thought would be introduced 2yrs down the track.
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Absolutely spot on. Grimley raised huge eyebrows and drew sighs w when his name was read out. Definite project player who has essentially played VFL reserves sinced being drafted. Wright thought at the time that he had more upside, was a few cms taller and had more athleticism. Interesting Vardy was rated by many as a first rounder-google phantom drafts from 2009.

Grimely was definately a Pelchin cutey gamble
 
Ron Jeremy 69 said:
Interesting Vardy was rated by many as a first rounder-google phantom drafts from 2009.
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But, equally interestingly, not by any AFL club who actually had a first, or even second round pick.
 
Collins-Langford-Ayres said:
My concern is the drafting of Grimley stinks of the typical Pelchen and co trying to be a little clever. It very raraely works.

Grimley is years away from it. There has never been a 199cm+ key defender in the game. Grimley won't be the first.

Best of luck to both players though.
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The_Air_Up_There said:
I think they we're trying to find the next Dustin Fletcher, athletic tall backman... however i don't think he has the footy smarts to pull it off and is a lonnnnng way from getting there. Im not saying we should have picked up Vardy, as our rucks look semi decent now. However comparing Vardy and Grimley, one is a natural footballer and the other is a lucky dip.
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Charlie Dixon

DETAILS
JUMPER # 23
DOB 23/09/1990
HEIGHT 200cm
WEIGHT 101kg
FORMER CLUB Redland, QLD

Bio

Standing two metres tall, Cairns-raised Charlie Dixon is a physically imposing and creative key forward with strong hands, a raking right boot, uncanny below-the-knee skills, and a real taste for multiple efforts at the fall of the ball.

A promising junior regional basketballer who turned to football relatively late, his rare ‘big man’ athleticism caught the eye of football scouts a few years back after a series of dominant performances for Cairns Saints.

Dixon was a standout at under 18 level for Queensland at the National Championships in 2009.

A natural on and off-field leader with a big heart and a bustling and aggressive approach to the game, big things are expected of him in 2011.


Anyone think this kid might be the goods?

I've seen enough already to know he will be - basketball background, 200cms, agile, oh - and one of Grimley's scalps in the three thirds games he played.

Give him the time and we have something here.

The thread is actually embarrassing - like a little kid who thinks the next kid has got a better toy without even looking at his own.:thumbsdown:
 
Collingwood were filthy that we took him with pick 39, they knew there was something to him and he was without doubt going to be their next pick before we snaffled him.

Their recruiting history is very solid and if their recruits wanted him so badly, not to mention ours.. then there is obviously something that they know that we don't. Have faith in the club and Grimley and the rewards will speak for themselves in a few years time.
 
BlackByrd said:
Collingwood were filthy that we took him with pick 39, they knew there was something to him and he was without doubt going to be their next pick before we snaffled him.

Their recruiting history is very solid and if their recruits wanted him so badly, not to mention ours.. then there is obviously something that they know that we don't. Have faith in the club and Grimley and the rewards will speak for themselves in a few years time.
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Absolute rubbish! Collingwood were never going to take Grimley.

Vardy was only there as it was a draft where very few wanted a ruckman.
He was clearly rated better than Grimley and the surprise in the room on the night said it all.

Vardy was miles ahead then and still is
 
Ron Jeremy 69 said:
Absolute rubbish! Collingwood were never going to take Grimley.

Vardy was only there as it was a draft where very few wanted a ruckman.
He was clearly rated better than Grimley and the surprise in the room on the night said it all.

Vardy was miles ahead then and still is
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You are a fool who clearly knows **** all about **** all.

Get the **** off our board spinster.
 

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