NEAFL- 2014

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stuyd1 said:
What a screwed up comp this now is!! And not just NEAFL, but now QAFL. Beltings galore in both comps.Competitive amongst the top 5 sides, but after that, is a joke. The pressure it puts on the clubs that are at the bottom end of the ladder is just not warranted.
IMO, NEAFL comp should consist of the 4 AFL sides, Thunder,Southport, Redlands, Aspley, Morningside, Labrador, Broadbeach and either Ainslie or Sydney Uni..... a 12 team comp, The dollars saved here via the cost of airfares/accommodation etc, could be budgeted/granted to the not so financial clubs be it Broadbeach, Morningside etc assisting in these clubs to be competitive.
Yes in any league, their are some beltings that occur, and yes the Neafl comp standard has risen a little this season, but that's in the area of the local clubs getting the cream of the crop from the delisted local clubs in QLD. The Sydney and ACT clubs in this NEAFL comp, are just not up to this standard,
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I hope you are embarrassed by this post, especially the part about Northern teams being superior to the ACT/Sydney teams. No doubt this season the Eastern clubs probably haven't improved at the same rate as the northern teams, but don't forget that the Northern teams have improved due to the demise of the other 4 northern teams. Last season in the head to head games between the northern teams and the eastern teams the eastern teams won the head to heads 8 to 6. That would suggest to me that the eastern sides were at the same level if not stronger than the northern teams. Now that the northern teams have been cut in half naturally the better players from those teams have added to the remaining teams and made them a lot stronger. As some others have already said things will balance out over the next year or 2, but to suggest that the eastern teams aren't up to the standard is a joke.
 
Having GWS and Swans plus 1 from Sydney and 2 from Canberra, 4 from Bris, 2 Qld AFL sides, 1 from NT would be a reasonable balance I reckon. Funny how all of a sudden in some minds the NT are too strong for this comp:rolleyes:...
 
To get some perspective on this guys, you would have to draw a parallel between the Gold Coast going from 3 teams to 1 and imagine if the same thing happened in the ACT and one side was annointed the chosen one and given complete access to all the players in the ACT, who only have one choice to play NEAFL. Then able to shuffle players back and forth as they liked including telling the clubs who were terminated who they would play and in what position, these are clubs who are sworn enemies.The QAFL clubs here have accepted this and moved on in good spirit (begrudgingly) that does not mean the issues have gone away it just means the relationships between the clubs is an accepting mode for the moment.The key is Southports efforts at relationship building and their actions with these clubs as to whether it will work or not, my guess is they will have to treat all their QAFL clubs equal for it to work. :rolleyes:
 

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Would have to agree, 1 from sydney and 2 from Canberra would probably be the best balance talent wise, but easier said than done.

Anyone got any Info on the Ainslie coach, apparenlty went postal at the umpires at the weekends game in Sydney????
 
RivaReena said:
Would have to agree, 1 from sydney and 2 from Canberra would probably be the best balance talent wise, but easier said than done.

Anyone got any Info on the Ainslie coach, apparenlty went postal at the umpires at the weekends game in Sydney????
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no info other to say heard him go off a few years ago, he is a lunatic
 
12 Magpies said:
I hope you are embarrassed by this post, especially the part about Northern teams being superior to the ACT/Sydney teams. No doubt this season the Eastern clubs probably haven't improved at the same rate as the northern teams, but don't forget that the Northern teams have improved due to the demise of the other 4 northern teams. Last season in the head to head games between the northern teams and the eastern teams the eastern teams won the head to heads 8 to 6. That would suggest to me that the eastern sides were at the same level if not stronger than the northern teams. Now that the northern teams have been cut in half naturally the better players from those teams have added to the remaining teams and made them a lot stronger. As some others have already said things will balance out over the next year or 2, but to suggest that the eastern teams aren't up to the standard is a joke.
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12 Magpies,
mate, get real. 5 games so far this season ok. I ve looked at the results, and so far it goes like this....
1) QLD sides ( include. NT) have won 73% of the games so far.
2) The AFL ressie sides have won 50% so far.
3) The ACT/SYDNEY sides have only won 33% so far.
So don't tell me its a joke to suggest the Eastern sides aren't up to standard. Fact is they are not!! and its not their fault, what im trying to get at , is the fact that the new structure of the comp. has created this.The only way the eastern sides to become highly competitive is to take on the same structure as the local QLD sides have had to do , per your comments above.
The AFL wants to get NEAFL comp to a tier 2 level that will be equivalent to the VFL, WAFL and SANFL....But this will just not happen in the geographic areas where rugby league and union are major players in the market and where Aussie rules footy is a way of life in the southern states, where rugby league and union is extremely minor.
Its all about providing a higher standard of comp for the AFL ressie sides to assist the development of their young draft recruits.. problem is , that this creates a great challenge for the local clubs to be competitive and is a financial challenge to do so.
 
Lifes a Beach1 said:
To get some perspective on this guys, you would have to draw a parallel between the Gold Coast going from 3 teams to 1 and imagine if the same thing happened in the ACT and one side was annointed the chosen one and given complete access to all the players in the ACT, who only have one choice to play NEAFL. Then able to shuffle players back and forth as they liked including telling the clubs who were terminated who they would play and in what position, these are clubs who are sworn enemies.The QAFL clubs here have accepted this and moved on in good spirit (begrudgingly) that does not mean the issues have gone away it just means the relationships between the clubs is an accepting mode for the moment.The key is Southports efforts at relationship building and their actions with these clubs as to whether it will work or not, my guess is they will have to treat all their QAFL clubs equal for it to work. :rolleyes:
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Reckon there should be a 2nd side on the GC though LAB (part of the 4 I was talking about but said Brisbane). One based at the south end, maybe PBC in due course? Damn long way to come to play footy if you live at Cooly to play at Southport.
 
smy1305 said:
Reckon there should be a 2nd side on the GC though LAB (part of the 4 I was talking about but said Brisbane). One based at the south end, maybe PBC in due course? Damn long way to come to play footy if you live at Cooly to play at Southport.
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Think it has been covered many times before - but the simple facts are that the teams in NEAFL in SEQ are the financial ones.
No real planning beyond that.
At the time many of us at broady and no doubt other clubs booted out were disappointed. But I think in reality it has been a good thing.
Not sure LAB where you are coming from in regards to southport as Labrador have hardly been affected compared to broady. Not sure if it is 3 or 4 players you lost but broady has about a dozen.
Don't think a second side on the GC will happen anytime soon.
I for one and many other broady supporters hope the broady players at southport do well and the team goes well.
Just think we have over done the debate on the QAFL and Canberra teams etc.
redland and aspley have had two good teams to get players from as well.
It is what it is and I actually will be going to watch Lab v palmy this week!
 
stuyd1 said:
12 Magpies,
mate, get real. 5 games so far this season ok. I ve looked at the results, and so far it goes like this....
1) QLD sides ( include. NT) have won 73% of the games so far.
2) The AFL ressie sides have won 50% so far.
3) The ACT/SYDNEY sides have only won 33% so far.
So don't tell me its a joke to suggest the Eastern sides aren't up to standard. Fact is they are not!! and its not their fault, what im trying to get at , is the fact that the new structure of the comp. has created this.The only way the eastern sides to become highly competitive is to take on the same structure as the local QLD sides have had to do , per your comments above.
The AFL wants to get NEAFL comp to a tier 2 level that will be equivalent to the VFL, WAFL and SANFL....But this will just not happen in the geographic areas where rugby league and union are major players in the market and where Aussie rules footy is a way of life in the southern states, where rugby league and union is extremely minor.
Its all about providing a higher standard of comp for the AFL ressie sides to assist the development of their young draft recruits.. problem is , that this creates a great challenge for the local clubs to be competitive and is a financial challenge to do so.
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I agree that at the moment the Northern sides are stronger than the Eastern sides. I was more commenting on your statement that you think the comp should consist of 7 Northern teams with the inclusion of only 1 eastern team. I think the eventual comp will consist of 2 ACT teams and 2 sydney teams and I believe in time this will even out the comp. But I agree that it will never get to the standard of the other 3 state leagues. The AFL have to try something though, as the restrictions on the AFL reserve teams isn't productive for them and will only result in poorer development of their younger players and hence performances for the AFL sides, which won't help attracting supporters. I have no doubt that eventually the AFL will create a reserves competition and all this revolution will be reverted back to what it was, but until then we'll have to put up with this and try and make the most of it while we can.
 
stuyd1 said:
12 Magpies,
mate, get real. 5 games so far this season ok. I ve looked at the results, and so far it goes like this....
1) QLD sides ( include. NT) have won 73% of the games so far.
2) The AFL ressie sides have won 50% so far.
3) The ACT/SYDNEY sides have only won 33% so far.
So don't tell me its a joke to suggest the Eastern sides aren't up to standard. Fact is they are not!! and its not their fault, what im trying to get at , is the fact that the new structure of the comp. has created this.The only way the eastern sides to become highly competitive is to take on the same structure as the local QLD sides have had to do , per your comments above.
The AFL wants to get NEAFL comp to a tier 2 level that will be equivalent to the VFL, WAFL and SANFL....But this will just not happen in the geographic areas where rugby league and union are major players in the market and where Aussie rules footy is a way of life in the southern states, where rugby league and union is extremely minor.
Its all about providing a higher standard of comp for the AFL ressie sides to assist the development of their young draft recruits.. problem is , that this creates a great challenge for the local clubs to be competitive and is a financial challenge to do so.
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Not sure what your point is here Stuyd1?

As a club we took the leap into NEAFL striving to be a better club and leaving our Sydney FL involvement as lower priority, we understand we have a long way to go to match the Qld sides now given their consolidation into 3 from 7 has fast tracked them into very strong 35 man playing squads solely focused on NEAFL footy which has raised the bar several notches with merging of playing lists up north. Obviously we have been caught out a little by this situation as we honestly weren't aware when we joined that it would grow in stature & standard so quickly.

In saying that, the club and its members/supporters & sponsors are all excited by the challenges ahead and striving to be better to exist and survive in the highest form of the game possible for our proud club. We have strategies in place to continue our recruiting and build our depth.
This old northern conference v eastern conference crap you go on about is finished,who cares ?? it is now one competition
Every sporting competition around the world has winners and losers each week, every competition has top of the ladder and bottom of the ladder. Funnily enough over time top teams drop down the ladder and bottom teams rise. It goes in cycles, the current cycle is obvious with the Qld teams having stronger lists and more depth - case closed

Think you need to find another drum to beat mate... its all a bit old hat after 5 rounds!!
Surely, we can all sit back and enjoy a greater brand of footy each week and find great pride in the fact that our comp is growing and growing.
Its club v club now buddy , the conference bull$hit is over - move on ....please!!!

Go Eages !!!!!
 
smy1305 said:
Reckon there should be a 2nd side on the GC though LAB (part of the 4 I was talking about but said Brisbane). One based at the south end, maybe PBC in due course? Damn long way to come to play footy if you live at Cooly to play at Southport.
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You are absolutely right smy but the equine has departed and we will never be able to go back from here, so how do you make it work from here is the question
 
kittycat12 said:
Think it has been covered many times before - but the simple facts are that the teams in NEAFL in SEQ are the financial ones.
No real planning beyond that.
At the time many of us at broady and no doubt other clubs booted out were disappointed. But I think in reality it has been a good thing.
Not sure LAB where you are coming from in regards to southport as Labrador have hardly been affected compared to broady. Not sure if it is 3 or 4 players you lost but broady has about a dozen.
Don't think a second side on the GC will happen anytime soon.
I for one and many other broady supporters hope the broady players at southport do well and the team goes well.
Just think we have over done the debate on the QAFL and Canberra teams etc.
redland and aspley have had two good teams to get players from as well.
It is what it is and I actually will be going to watch Lab v palmy this week!
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I was speaking on behalf of Gold Coast footy no one club and as I just replied to smy we will never go back too much has been done now.I understand the anger and was just trying to give the Eastern guys an understanding of even though it looks great on the surface what has happened has not been done without pain and therefore some feel the need for continuing the discussion.I actually think that the end of this year will harbour as much sorting out as went before.
 

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It's probably worth noting that if the three Canberra sides and Queanbeyan (all with rich club venues as income sources) are happy paying their way despite current competitiveness issues, there's no reason they shouldn't all stay. Things will even out eventually.
 
Arwib said:
It's probably worth noting that if the three Canberra sides and Queanbeyan (all with rich club venues as income sources) are happy paying their way despite current competitiveness issues, there's no reason they shouldn't all stay. Things will even out eventually.
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agree,give it time
 
12 Magpies said:
I agree that at the moment the Northern sides are stronger than the Eastern sides. I was more commenting on your statement that you think the comp should consist of 7 Northern teams with the inclusion of only 1 eastern team. I think the eventual comp will consist of 2 ACT teams and 2 sydney teams and I believe in time this will even out the comp. But I agree that it will never get to the standard of the other 3 state leagues. The AFL have to try something though, as the restrictions on the AFL reserve teams isn't productive for them and will only result in poorer development of their younger players and hence performances for the AFL sides, which won't help attracting supporters. I have no doubt that eventually the AFL will create a reserves competition and all this revolution will be reverted back to what it was, but until then we'll have to put up with this and try and make the most of it while we can.
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12Magpies,
yes ok , was just putting forward one case scenario as an example only.
 
ZigZagZoner said:
Not sure what your point is here Stuyd1?

As a club we took the leap into NEAFL striving to be a better club and leaving our Sydney FL involvement as lower priority, we understand we have a long way to go to match the Qld sides now given their consolidation into 3 from 7 has fast tracked them into very strong 35 man playing squads solely focused on NEAFL footy which has raised the bar several notches with merging of playing lists up north. Obviously we have been caught out a little by this situation as we honestly weren't aware when we joined that it would grow in stature & standard so quickly.

In saying that, the club and its members/supporters & sponsors are all excited by the challenges ahead and striving to be better to exist and survive in the highest form of the game possible for our proud club. We have strategies in place to continue our recruiting and build our depth.
This old northern conference v eastern conference crap you go on about is finished,who cares ?? it is now one competition
Every sporting competition around the world has winners and losers each week, every competition has top of the ladder and bottom of the ladder. Funnily enough over time top teams drop down the ladder and bottom teams rise. It goes in cycles, the current cycle is obvious with the Qld teams having stronger lists and more depth - case closed

Think you need to find another drum to beat mate... its all a bit old hat after 5 rounds!!
Surely, we can all sit back and enjoy a greater brand of footy each week and find great pride in the fact that our comp is growing and growing.
Its club v club now buddy , the conference bull$hit is over - move on ....please!!!

Go Eages !!!!!
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zigzag, I said the comp is screwed up at the moment...... get my point here,,,and u mentioned it above... and that is by the restructure ,consolidating 7 QLD sides into 3 so to speak obviously has made Southport, Aspley, and Redlands much stronger. But why wasn't this applied in the ACT/SYDNEY COMP.??? If that was done, then the choosen Sydney/act, teams would be right up there .
I have no interest in which conference sides are better, as I said in my prior post, the restructure has hurt the Sydney/Act,clubs as to being very competitive.( as they were in 2013)
in reference to the results after 5 rounds, I was pointing out the facts only because a fellow poster be it Magpies12 challenged my opinion.
My point is, if the restructure was applied across the comp, then the eastern clubs would be right up there in the comp. So do you get my point now.I for one couldn't give a rats arse to who wins the comp, its all about a level playing field for the semi professional clubs against the full time professional AFL ressie sides.!!!
 
Just had a look at the champion data stats from last weeks games. Aspley player, be it Matt Payne, continues to chalk up great stats..... he is one very good player,Yet is one that hasn't been looked at by AFL clubs,,,, I remember reading an article 2 years ago where Dayne Zorko was being interviewed and he was asked the question , is there a standout player in the NEAFL comp that could make the big time, ,,, Zorkos immediate reply was ,, yes, there is one guy that stands out, and his name is Matt Payne.!!.
 

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