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NEAFL- 2014
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Agree. I assume metres progressed forward includes kicks and how far they run forward when bouncing the ball. With gps tracking it would be simplified. Plenty of high stats afl players kick short and across.looks good in targets hit and they may get it back .a couple of easy stats. I'm sure the forwards would rejoice at rapid entry into the forward zone.of course kick long and miss the target then just count the seconds before the runner whispers sweetly in your ear .
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Same tips for me here.
A little over the debate about neafl this neafl that..today's a perfect chance for qld people on this site to get an idea about the two conferences..sharks v ainslie today..both teams have some ripping players both have injuries. There sitting next to each other on the ladder, both teams depth getting called upon..
How good is it having curtain raisers back at the gabba..Archie Smith in the ruck is abit like yesterday yr when Tate Day would light up the early crowd at the first centre bounce.. Not sure about the early crowd tho today!!
My tips
Hills
Sharks
Aspley
Swans
Nt
Redlands
Belconnen
How good is it having curtain raisers back at the gabba..Archie Smith in the ruck is abit like yesterday yr when Tate Day would light up the early crowd at the first centre bounce.. Not sure about the early crowd tho today!!
My tips
Hills
Sharks
Aspley
Swans
Nt
Redlands
Belconnen
Dogwarna,
Southport belted Ainslie by some 11 goals. Was always going to be the result. Was never going to be a close game.As Ive said a hundred times, the comp is a joke now.
My
My point exactly
Thunder played Sydney Uni tonite. Thunder hanging around third or fourth and Uni just a game outside the final six.Thunder won the game by only 20 odd goals.... Uni could only manage 1 goal for the game.... geez, the comp is a laughing stock.
neafl fan
Draftee
And southport have had a cruel run with injuries - a number of key players missing - including losing Baxter early in the game.
I have had a quick look at the remainder of the draw and due to the disparity between the standard of competition in the two ex conferences and the way the draw favours intra-conference games here is my take on how the ladder will look at end of season. Depending on the results of few crucial games between northern based teams one of Thunder, Redlands or Southport will miss the finals at the expense of Ainslie who have a much softer remaining draw. Repeating a sentiment oft expressed on this forum - the joke is on us!
- UWS Giants 15 wins
- Sydney Swans 13 wins
- Aspley 13 wins
- Southport 12 wins
- Ainslie 12 wins
- Redlands 11 wins
- Thunder 11 wins
- Sydney Uni 9 wins
- Hills Eagles 6 wins
- Lions 5 wins
- Queanbeyan 4 wins
- Belconnen 4 wins
- Eastlake 2 wins
- Suns 0 wins
We're learning some things about NEAFL....
1. Swans and Giants don't belong - they're too strong so they don't get a proper workout anyway. The NEAFL would be a more legitimate comp without them. Problem is that there's nowhere else for them to play...
2. Thunder are pretty much unbeatable at night, at home, but not very good otherwise.
3. The Northern local teams are much stronger than the Eastern local teams - I think we knew that anyway.
4. The northern local teams provide good competition for the Lions and Suns so I don't think the NEAFL is a joke...the NEAFL would regard Qld as a success story.
5. NEAFL in Qld probably has a valid role in supporting Lions and Suns and getting young kids up to speed, but not so in NSW/ACT where it doesn't seem to be much help at all.
But what I like best is that we get to see better local footy now than we've ever been able to see before, at a nominal cost, at a local footy ground, up close and personal. It might be horribly costly, inefficient, even wasteful, but, as a spectator with nothing invested, I just love the idea of being able to turn up and watch this standard of footy.
1. Swans and Giants don't belong - they're too strong so they don't get a proper workout anyway. The NEAFL would be a more legitimate comp without them. Problem is that there's nowhere else for them to play...
2. Thunder are pretty much unbeatable at night, at home, but not very good otherwise.
3. The Northern local teams are much stronger than the Eastern local teams - I think we knew that anyway.
4. The northern local teams provide good competition for the Lions and Suns so I don't think the NEAFL is a joke...the NEAFL would regard Qld as a success story.
5. NEAFL in Qld probably has a valid role in supporting Lions and Suns and getting young kids up to speed, but not so in NSW/ACT where it doesn't seem to be much help at all.
But what I like best is that we get to see better local footy now than we've ever been able to see before, at a nominal cost, at a local footy ground, up close and personal. It might be horribly costly, inefficient, even wasteful, but, as a spectator with nothing invested, I just love the idea of being able to turn up and watch this standard of footy.
billybunter
Team Captain
Justa,
I agree with most of above, unfortunately the way the draw is structured, we cant get gauge on how good the Swans and Giants would play against the Northern NEAFL sides (remembering that there are some player restrictions for the Swans and none for the Giants this year only I think).
As for the 2 AFL Reserve sides here in Qld - They are terrible this year and are both well below par compared to these other 2 Sydney AFL Reserve and the 3 QLD NEAFL sides - Too many kids and that includes Qld kids (excluding the top ups) that can't play footy yet at this new current NEAFL level - These young listed and rookie players may have been stand outs in the Junior ranks (U/18 Championships and TAC Cup etc) to get a gig, but up against the bigger bodies and far better skilled players, they just can't compete. Also there are a lot of guys IMO who look over it, therfore keeping a spot closed for some mature aged free agents, draftees or rookies that the Lions especially are surely missing. The Hornets looked like the professional side yesterday with their run and carry, had they kicked straight in the first Qrt the game would have been all over by then.
It is a bit sad for these 2 AFL clubs currently due to poor football performances and therefore recruiting IMO (and I know this will change in time), as due to this, there is not much pressure from below to keep the players in their senior sides to perform at their best!!!!!!
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billybunter
Team Captain
Stuyd1,
That's a bit harsh - This would have been the students first trip to Darwin - This would have been a case of classic bushwhacking, I don't know if you have been there for a NEAFL footy trip? But just going up as a supporter is an eye opener, as when you get off the plane at 11.00 am into a balmy 29 deg, the first thing you look for is a watering hole and lots of shade or better still air conditioning. The players even if they are lucky enough to get a night up there to toss and turn in their beds, they then have to prepare to play at 7.00 pm on a Saturday Night, under lights cutting through the humidity with every movement and with the temperature still at around 26 deg or so or teaming with rain. This is why when a Southern Club (which I think there has only been two to date) who catches the Thunder on an off night on their Dunghill, the win is celebrated by them as being nearly as close to a grand final win - The Thunder certainly (as one would expect and they deserve) have the drop on all comers by this, the way it is mostly reversed for them when the Thunder travel South.
I am sure that this experience for the students will be a lesson well learn't (pardon the Pun) and the next time and then in the years after to come that they head to the Top End, they will be a lot more prepared to understand and allow for the conditions and the home style of footy that the Thunder give you.
1 goal to 20 in there first experience up there is probably disappointing looking at it from here, but if they played up there again in a couple of weeks (after they get over the travel) they would probably score say 10 goals to 20 I would imagine? True experience is something you cannot buy but only learn from.
This is one of the reasons IMO that the NEAFL Competition is the most unique and most grueling competition in Australia, as this Darwin Trip alone would stump most other top or bottom sides in any of the 2nd tier competition in the Land. For you doubters, book the trip the next time your side plays in Darwin or even Alice Springs for that matter - You will come back with a totally different view on how hard and unique playing in the NEAFL is and then you also won't be to hard on the Thunder for their as it seems easy home draw, as they have this travel component to deal with every second week or so.
The two qld based afl teams have been severely depleted by the state 18's fixture, and the fact that there draft picks have taken a while to adapt to Neafl footy, Zac Obrien the exception. No doubt HQ would be giving themselves a pat on the back now looking at results of the Qld Neafl afl teams and how they have bought these clubs back to the field without even realising it!!! The 18's still have 3 TAC games post champs to play, but there are a couple of the players to be released back to there clubs after last champs game, I suspect they would include there 17 yr olds as it's not there draft yr.
Billy it would have been interesting to see door to door how long the students travel was over the weekend. Hills eagles early in the yr for one fellow was 7 hrs. This trip is not going away, I think we will see a condensed Neafl comp in the future with no compromised draw and this trip will be a reality for all teams and so it should, but surely the logistics will improve, a few more aircraft tix made available for the added staff the clubs were asked to provide for the new structure, strength and conditioning etc
billybunter
Team Captain
Dogwarna,
If your answer above was to my comments posted earlier? I think you may be missing my point, which was unfortunately IMO the current young guys (as displayed yesterday for the Lions and possibly today for the Sun's) are not quite up to the current, recently raised NEAFL skilled level.
Top up players are excluded from this opinion and again this will be the type of player who will come back from the State Championships.
The current listed and rookie listed young guns just look outclassed to date by bigger bodied and more skillful players that the NEAFL sides have recruited and the structures they have developed, along with their younger players who have lifted the bar as well due to this.
I may be expecting too much in regard to this - but as a supporter and watching these teams play, it seems that they just don't take the game seriously, if your side that these players have been drafted to gets beaten on most weeks by a more skillful and quicker to the ball team then maybe the recruiting process is not working - The Lions are sadly lacking IMO mature age draftee's and or rookies, this process of recruiting would enable the younger kids coming through to refine their games especially at the NEAFL level before joining the sides like the Sun's and the Lions - Yesterday IMO and from what I witnessed these younger listed and rookie players, along with their older listed team mates for the Lions were outclassed - pure and simple. If this is through a lack of desire censured by the club, then it sets a very dangerous precedence for any type of winning formula in the future!!!!
It seems that the Sun's Reserves after today's game against Redland are still win less after 12 Rounds????
It looks like it might be time for some spring cleaning at both QLD - AFL clubs, both some players and some coaching staff may come under the microscope and be in the gun, as sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind.
..................FOOTY TIPPING AFTER ROUND 13
………………………………After......Round......After
……………………………...Rd 12........13........Rd 13
Dogwarna...........................58.............5........63
blackdog32.........................58.............5........63
Lifes a beach 1....................56.............5.......61
chikka ferguson....................56............5........61
billybunter...........................56............5........61
justabaraker........................56............4........60
nqtragic.............................55............5.........60
NorWest.............................53............5.........58
stuyd1...............................52............5.........57
brewser..............................50............5........55
one 4 the road.....................48............6........54
………………………………After......Round......After
……………………………...Rd 12........13........Rd 13
Dogwarna...........................58.............5........63
blackdog32.........................58.............5........63
Lifes a beach 1....................56.............5.......61
chikka ferguson....................56............5........61
billybunter...........................56............5........61
justabaraker........................56............4........60
nqtragic.............................55............5.........60
NorWest.............................53............5.........58
stuyd1...............................52............5.........57
brewser..............................50............5........55
one 4 the road.....................48............6........54
Round 14
Giants v Lions
Aspley v Hills Eagles
Eastlake v Sydney Uni
Suns v Southport
Thunder v Redland
Ainslie v Swans
Belconnen v Queanbeyan
Giants v Lions
Aspley v Hills Eagles
Eastlake v Sydney Uni
Suns v Southport
Thunder v Redland
Ainslie v Swans
Belconnen v Queanbeyan
I like what you say Bunter - we'd like to see the shackles taken off the Swans and Giants and see how they go against the Qld local clubs on a level playing field...maybe next year.
You talk about Suns and Lions players who "look over it" and are therefore taking up valuable space. I would reckon there's one in the Giants (Gilham) and three in the Swans (LRT, O'Keefe, Tommy Walsh), but all four are contracted so they have to get a game anyway.
I tip:-
Giants
Aspley
Uni
Southport
Thunder
Swans
Belconnen
Giants
Aspley
Uni
Southport
Thunder
Swans
Belconnen
All good Billy I agree with your points I just added the top ups I suppose..In the lions case there injuries have been cruel as well. When a long term injury comes back thru Neafl you can be assured he will only play 75% game time over the duration of the game as in Lueys case on Saturday night. Then at half time the senior emergency goes off, lisle I think it was. As we all know this will never change and it shouldn't. So for large parts of games throughout the lions yr they have been 1-2 men down. Please these are not excuses, there just the facts. Often these can be offset by injuries to the opposition but you can see my point.
Billy bunter, ,
yes I have been up there in Darwin to watch games, thus hear what your saying.What Im saying, is that a scoreline of 19 goals to one, between sides that are third on the ladder and Uni being just outside the final six, ( not to mention Southports flogging of Ainslie,yet Ainslie will proberly make the finals at the expense of Southport, Redlands or Thunder.) goes to show the whole restructured comp is just a basket case.
I see comments on here that the QLD part of the NEAFL, is in great shape and the likes of Southport, Aspley, and Redlands have improved immensely thus are now winning games against the AFL ressie counterparts. Fact is, they haven't improved that much, its the fact that the AFL ressie sides have declined in standard dramatically this season.
billybunter
Team Captain
Dogwarna,
No argument from me on all of these points above, Luey was actually pretty dam good on Saturday Night considering - I just am concerned about the depth the Lions have and will continue to have with drafting and rookieing kids that just don't seem to fit a standard required to compete at the current NEAFL level. If you cant play two's footy then ones are out of the question.
billybunter
Team Captain
stuyd1,
Yes again I agree with most of these comments above as well, Darwin is a big gig first time around - Next year if we get an un-compromised comp, I am sure the Students will give a better showing. There may be some tinkering with the clubs in the old Eastern League - But I am a traditionalist and I would rather see these clubs in Canberra stay in the comp by lifting the bar and maybe recruiting some better players. There are plenty of good players up here playing QAFL that given an opportunity would fit into a Southern NEAFL side and perform.
I beg to differ though regarding the standard of the 3 Qld NEAL teams not improving - I would say that they have done the heavy lifting of the competition this year to a point of dominating most non Qld clubs they play (apart from the Thunder in NT), (at maybe the expense of the Clubs who elected to drop down to the QAFL league) along with the Lions and the Sun's dropping the ball (so to speak) by their ordinary selection policy or their contempt toward being fair dink-um in the current comp (I just can't work out which one fits here), as and old coach of mine said on more than a few occasions (Quote) If you don't wear a pair of socks then you can't pull them up. These two clubs currently, look like and are playing like they are wearing thongs.
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one 4 the road
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Enjoy following the banter on this thread and don't always comment but heres my 2 cents worth.
We all knew that the Qld sides were going to be a LOT better than the old Eastern. Who in their right mind, if they had the choice of playing for a Qld club versus a Sydney or Canberra club, in the same League would opt for Sydney or Canberra? It is going to be more and more difficult for the Sydney and Canberra based clubs to attract players as long as this option exists.
I know that not everyone will fit into the 3 Qld sides but once someone hears of a player that might be available then usually 1 of the Qld sides might make a play for him.
You are always going to get beltings in every league. Should NT have been ridiculed after their 20 goal loss to Aspley this year? I think not, nothing works out for the best in the first, second or third year.
Agree totally that for the league to be taken seriously then there has to be no compromise and everyone plays everyone.
We all knew that the Qld sides were going to be a LOT better than the old Eastern. Who in their right mind, if they had the choice of playing for a Qld club versus a Sydney or Canberra club, in the same League would opt for Sydney or Canberra? It is going to be more and more difficult for the Sydney and Canberra based clubs to attract players as long as this option exists.
I know that not everyone will fit into the 3 Qld sides but once someone hears of a player that might be available then usually 1 of the Qld sides might make a play for him.
You are always going to get beltings in every league. Should NT have been ridiculed after their 20 goal loss to Aspley this year? I think not, nothing works out for the best in the first, second or third year.
Agree totally that for the league to be taken seriously then there has to be no compromise and everyone plays everyone.
