Opinion Negativity In The Port Adelaide Supporter Base

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If you give people the opportunity to do something wrong or detrimental to themselves, they will usually do it; one doesnot need to interfere to bring about someone's downfall. The full version is, "Give (one) enough rope, and (one) willhang (one)self."Don't interrupt him with questions. Just let him keep talking and he'll incriminate himself. Give him enough rope andsee what happens.
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. Prov. If you give someone that you suspect of bad behavior the freedom to behave badly, eventually he or she will becaught and punished. Jill: I think Matilda's been stealing things out of my desk. Should I tell the boss? Jane: No; giveher enough rope and she'll hang herself. One of these days she'll steal something important, the boss will find out forhimself, and he'll fire her.
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This is called an idiom. There are others such as 'bite the bullet', 'blessing in disguise' and 'call it a night' - all which could be appropriately used on Big Footy.
 
I've said it before, I don't go to showdowns anymore, I'm sick of putting up with ****ty Adelaide Cows supporters, so no it wasn't me.
Bahaha, big bad opposition supporters annoy you. So you stay home... This is so pathetic. I'm not just directing this at you but the idea in general, as I've read a few times people don't go to showdowns for this very reason...
Modern footy fans...
 
Also I hate people wishing on us to lose so it makes Ken's position more untenable. The entire basis of being a football supporter is wanting a particular club to win.

How has the whole winning-just-enough-to-keep-the-coach-employed situation been working out for you so far?
 

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Can you imagine the Port Adelaide supporter base without Ken Hinkley?

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How has the whole winning-just-enough-to-keep-the-coach-employed situation been working out for you so far?

I want Ken Hinkley to be sacked. But every game day, I want us to win. It's not a hard thing to comprehend.
 
What you just said wasn t threatening.



This is on the first page of the Changes vs Geelong thread. It's been up there for the best part of a week. **** like that is what I think isn't on.
Ffs it's a saying, it doesn't mean she wants Ken to swing from a rope... It means if he continues down the same course he will have to suffer the consequences, as in get sacked.. As clearly, like most she doesn't think ken is the man for the job...
 
Once again I must clarify, this thread is not solely about Ken, it's about the tone and attitude that we as supporters are giving. I'm not expecting sunshine and lollipops or any of that ****, but I would like some of the intensity to die down.
A good example would be with some of my Port friends. When I asked one of them the other week about what they thought of the current stance of the club, he simply replied with "Well if we get some more players back we might be able to make the finals" and that's all he needed to say, instead of saying something along the lines of "OH WE'RE NEVER GONNA GET ANYWHERE UNDER KEN!" that's the message I'm trying to get across, it's not down to what people think, it's about how they apply it.

after all these years.. WE ARE NEVER GONNA GET ANYWHERE UNDER KERN !
 
Honestly if this thread is proving anything conclusively, its that people not negative about Ken Hinkley aren’t informed

Lol. I've said on quite a few occasions that I think Ken should be sacked and my posting history would support that. I am negative about Ken Hinkley as Port Adelaide coach, not Ken Hinkley the person.
 
A good post with weight, but it doesn't answer my question.
There are many more faithful supporters out there than you think. Most of them don't use Bigfooty of course, but the fact is most supporters have a fixed mindset, they either go to the football with positivity or they don't go at all, but until the attendances start dropping below 30k on average then I think that's an indication that we still have faithful supporters. I would like to think that people who really hate the state of our club that much wouldn't bother going.

It's a simple case of If they don't like it they won't watch it, you're far better off speaking with your wallet instead of your keyboard if you want things to change.
Of course there are faithful supporters out there, there always will be. Most posting on here are faithful supporters but the majority are extremely unhappy at the moment, and with good reason.

There are a lot on here that post, myself included who remember this club, the Port Adelaide football club, being ruthless, hard, tough and uncompromising on and off the field. That is what got us to the AFL, it's what made us dominate the SANFL for decade after decade and out grow it. Some of us chose Port Adelaide as a club, some of us born into it through family playing there in my case.

It is a club full of tradition (and still is) that the supporters, members and members of Big Footy hold dear. Now where the negativity comes from in some quarters is being told by the current board of the club the number 1 Guernsey and a sole captain is a tradition like the old cap the players used to wear, that is being turfed out, under the provisio it will help us win games of footy. That's nonsense. Instead of the club just owning it and telling us all that was the path they'd chosen, they tried to buttered us up to it, and dragged it out. Thus spreading the discontent amongst the die hards for a starting point in 2019.

Then you go to the Prison Bars for 2020 which is another that is spreading angst amongst the supporters. KT comes out and says wearing it twice is enough. Which ignores the whole Bring Back the Bars campaign, which nearly has 100,000 signatures on a online petition (and a huge credit to who ever has organized that cause) and the club is now buttering us up for that news. So on two major issues they aren't listening to us, who mind you basically pay the bills.

Then it gets to the on field performance and Hinkley. Do I or anyone else wish Hinkley harm or anything of that ilk? No, a resounding no. He seems like a good bloke, that's great. But it's AFL footy not a holiday camp, if the fans can't demand results or change if those results aren't met then who can? We are sick of the same trotted out lines by him after the same ground hog day performance or failure, we are all sick of performance occurring, we are sick of the same tactical failures we see in losses against better sides, year in year out.

That's not even 70% of the issues, but those are 3/4 examples of where and why people are so negative or where it has come from.

We want our Port Adelaide back, the one we all grew up with, were born supporting, and want the club to be successful.

Also I'll add that's not a shot at any fan who is positive, a newer Port Adelaide fan or anything like that. The question was asked by the creator of the thread so I answered it the best I can.
 

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Honestly if this thread is proving anything conclusively, its that people not negative about Ken Hinkley aren’t informed

And I should also concede that my interpretation of your post is exactly that, an interpretation. I can understand why other people see it differently. I apologise for using that as an example.
 
What shits me is when we have a close loss and it’s immediately an all in pile on kicking the club, players, and coaches when they’re down.

I don’t think it’s as bad as it was, but the response to the West Coast loss last year in particular really pissed me off.

Just a weird lack of empathy for the players, coaches etc and an entitlement that they exist purely to appease supporters.

Hinkley in particular acts as a lighting rod for the rage of the supporter base, but obviously particular players have as well.

I understand he is the coach and has a big influence over direction, but the entire club is responsible for what happens and IMO the players are far more deserving of credit or blame when it comes to results. It’s why I don’t subscribe to the “Clarkson is god” stuff. I’m sure he is a great coach but he is also blessed with an extremely good playing group that have constantly evolved and reinvented themselves, same with Geelong.

The standard does start with Hinkley to some degree and he should absolutely be shown the door if we don’t turn things around TOMORROW, but the fact is the players have been letting us down just as long and seem to have lost the spark they had in 2013/14 when they really over performed.

I’m a huge fan of the changes we made in the off season, but if we don’t succeed more changes need to be made. If Hinkley doesn’t go I won’t be losing all hope, but I think it’s the obvious move to a) appease supporters and b) send the message that standards of performance need to lift massively. It would be by far the best chance for positive change in the club for the least effort IMO.
 
If I had to generalize, I might be wrong... But it seems like there's a couple of upset millenials, who struggle reading negativity.. That's what this thread feels like...

And some people who don't realise that what they put on the internet can actually have an impact on a human being.
 
Bahaha, big bad opposition supporters annoy you. So you stay home... This is so pathetic. I'm not just directing this at you but the idea in general, as I've read a few times people don't go to showdowns for this very reason...
Modern footy fans...
I'm not proud of it either, but it seriously ruins the experience when I have to put up with a dickhead Cows family and their children insulting us at every turnover. All I can think of in my head is "Did you even come here to support your own team? Or are you just here to insult Port?" As you can tell I'm not very good with children, one day I'll snap at one and I'll get in trouble, but since I'm avoiding showdowns that day likely won't come.
 
Bahaha, big bad opposition supporters annoy you. So you stay home... This is so pathetic. I'm not just directing this at you but the idea in general, as I've read a few times people don't go to showdowns for this very reason...
Modern footy fans...

Now you're just gatekeeping.
 
Honestly people who are negative at the footy are the absolute worst human beings. I’m there to have a good time win or loss, not listen to campaigners being whiney.

Posting online is completely different, but unfortunately the most vocally negative affect the entire board not just the poor bastards sitting next to them.
 
The anger and negativity comes from the frustration that supporters have, seeing the club they have loved all their lives, who their parents loved etc... After a period of darkness where the club was at its lowest in it's entire long history, rising up to some success only to see the club now wallow in an ankle deep pool of grey stagnant mediocrity.

The frustration of seeing what team turns up on game day, seeing the same mistakes being made week in week out both on the field and in the coaches box. The frustration of knowing and seeing what our shortcomings are but yet the very people who actually matter in the club cannot.

And the biggest part is that the club seems to have nothing but contempt for their members and fans in general.

But Cadaver is somewhat right on the fact that this place can be a bit circlejerky and a bit echo chamber-y at times, which is not too dissimilar to any other forums out there on the web where its a singular topic.
 
Honestly people who are negative at the footy are the absolute worst human beings. I’m there to have a good time win or loss, not listen to campaigners being whiney.

Posting online is completely different, but unfortunately the most vocally negative affect the entire board not just the poor bastards sitting next to them.

I went to a bunch of games in Melbourne in Round 1 and the last game was Bulldogs vs Sydney at Docklands. I went as a neutral and sat next to a Swans supporter who did nothing but whinge all night. And not reacting to decisions whinging, but just incessant whinging about players, gameplan, everything. Easily my worst experience watching a game of footy.
 
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