Remember Perth Stadium is a hybrid stadium It's NOT just about AFL and cricket.That was the government's aim from the beginning - to attract as much revenue as possible. So. AFL, WAFL, soccer, rugby, S.O.O. concerts and every assortment of events.
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Remember Perth Stadium is a hybrid stadium It's NOT just about AFL and cricket.That was the government's aim from the beginning - to attract as much revenue as possible. So. AFL, WAFL, soccer, rugby, S.O.O. concerts and every assortment of events.
Perth Stadium was successful because of the Adelaide Oval. Because of the situation that was caused by the the agreement between the South Australian Cricket Association and the South Australian National Football League and the AFL, the Western Australians where shown how they should go, share in the creation of a major new stadium.
Perth Stadium was created with having athletics hosted at the venue.
The designs for a new Subiaco Oval had been released.
The location of the Melbourne Olympic Stadium had not been decided upon when vote was made.
A few different location were chosen.
There was Princes Park.
There was the Showgrounds.
Melbourne could have lost the Olympics before the MCG was chosen.
The GABBA has not always looked like it does now. Here is how it looked in 1989.
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I cannot believe I'm saying this, but the politics and economics of building a stadium and hosting the Olympics are so dissimilar from the 1950's to the 2020's to be an almost meaningless comparison.
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I have not visited this thread for some time, but it is good to see posters thoughts whether i agree or not.
The build costs appear to be extremely high at over the $3 billion mark for both The Gabba & Victoria Park
It just seems way to high comparing to say the Perth stadium being Australia's last big stadium build.
Having said that us plebs can only work on those figures supplied to being close to what is needed in the budget.
Don't forget this may not even start until the first half of 2026 if we're lucky, so costs will increase.
That's probably why the reported build costs are so high in 2024 terms.
Last night the LNP won the State election and will go to their promised 100-day review of the Brisbane Olympics.
The new Premier David Crisafulli has stated he won't go ahead with the "crazy QSAC $1.6 billion build".
However, he finds himself in the same position as Labor. That's why he also stated no new stadium during the campaign.
He won't have enough money to build a new stadium at the quoted figures of $3 billion plus.
The states contribution to the state/commonwealth agreement is $3.53 billion.
There is $935 million each committed from the state & commonwealth to minor venues. I doubt this funding changes.
These minor venues builds are well under way as they should be after 3 years.
That leaves only $2.595 billion to build a new stadium.
That's if you exclude the $500 million to each of The Gabba & Lang Park under Labor's proposal
Should the LNP go along with those funds for Lang Park and The Gabba that leaves only $1.595 billion for a new stadium.
Now you can see why Labor went for QSAC ($1.6 billion) as that is all the money they had spare.
Without going into it to much the only way i see a new stadium for the Brisbane Olympics (excluding a private/government consortium) is as follows.
Change the state/commonwealth Olympic agreement to 50/50 split which is the usual practice.
Cancel/delay/move the proposed Brisbane Arena originally earmarked for the Roma Street rail station area.
That was until the validation report came in at over $4 billion (Quirk review). Now they are looking at a new site not far away occupying the Roma Street Parklands car park and surrounds. Petitions already underway to stop this. I doubt it comes in under $2.5 billion. Just quietly, not enough scrutiny on this project.
The Brisbane Arena funding is the Commonwealth part of the agreement.
The commonwealth has agreed to a maximum of $2.5 billion for this 17k Entertainment Centre which has a planned drop in pool.
Swimming Australia is very much against this build concept as there is no legacy for swimming.
They have submitted their concerns to the government.
Instead build a new 3 pool complex for $620 million at Chandler which will be a legacy for swimming (Quirk review page 32)
Consider building the Brisbane Arena above the Wooloongabba underground station (near completion) if engineering is feasible. This to commence immediately after the Olympics.
Pull The Gabba down and sell/lease/other options to pay for this or the next option.
Or build it on the Gabba site after the Olympics, together with units/apartments/green space.
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Below the existing $7 billion Commonwealth funding and what the Miles Government has proposed.
My suggestion: A new agreement with 50/50 split. Maximum of $3.435 billion from Commonwealth
Gabba upgrade funding still needed to accommodate T20 cricket which will be a huge Olympic money spinner.
Also, maintenance needed on aging Gabba just to get the venue ready for the games.
The build costs appear to be extremely high at over the $3 billion mark for both The Gabba & Victoria Park
It just seems way to high comparing to say the Perth stadium being Australia's last big stadium build.
Having said that us plebs can only work on those figures supplied to being close to what is needed in the budget.
Don't forget this may not even start until the first half of 2026 if we're lucky, so costs will increase.
That's probably why the reported build costs are so high in 2024 terms.
Last night the LNP won the State election and will go to their promised 100-day review of the Brisbane Olympics.
The new Premier David Crisafulli has stated he won't go ahead with the "crazy QSAC $1.6 billion build".
However, he finds himself in the same position as Labor. That's why he also stated no new stadium during the campaign.
He won't have enough money to build a new stadium at the quoted figures of $3 billion plus.
The states contribution to the state/commonwealth agreement is $3.53 billion.
There is $935 million each committed from the state & commonwealth to minor venues. I doubt this funding changes.
These minor venues builds are well under way as they should be after 3 years.
That leaves only $2.595 billion to build a new stadium.
That's if you exclude the $500 million to each of The Gabba & Lang Park under Labor's proposal
Should the LNP go along with those funds for Lang Park and The Gabba that leaves only $1.595 billion for a new stadium.
Now you can see why Labor went for QSAC ($1.6 billion) as that is all the money they had spare.
Without going into it to much the only way i see a new stadium for the Brisbane Olympics (excluding a private/government consortium) is as follows.
Change the state/commonwealth Olympic agreement to 50/50 split which is the usual practice.
Cancel/delay/move the proposed Brisbane Arena originally earmarked for the Roma Street rail station area.
That was until the validation report came in at over $4 billion (Quirk review). Now they are looking at a new site not far away occupying the Roma Street Parklands car park and surrounds. Petitions already underway to stop this. I doubt it comes in under $2.5 billion. Just quietly, not enough scrutiny on this project.
The Brisbane Arena funding is the Commonwealth part of the agreement.
The commonwealth has agreed to a maximum of $2.5 billion for this 17k Entertainment Centre which has a planned drop in pool.
Swimming Australia is very much against this build concept as there is no legacy for swimming.
They have submitted their concerns to the government.
Instead build a new 3 pool complex for $620 million at Chandler which will be a legacy for swimming (Quirk review page 32)
Consider building the Brisbane Arena above the Wooloongabba underground station (near completion) if engineering is feasible. This to commence immediately after the Olympics.
Pull The Gabba down and sell/lease/other options to pay for this or the next option.
Or build it on the Gabba site after the Olympics, together with units/apartments/green space.
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Below the existing $7 billion Commonwealth funding and what the Miles Government has proposed.
| Venue | State Funding (Miles- Not Premier as of yesterday) | Commonwealth Funding |
| Minor Venues | 935,000,000 | 935,000,000 |
| Gabba Upgrade | 500,000,000 | |
| Lang Park Upgrade | 500,000,000 | |
| QSAC | 1,600,000,000 | |
| Brisbane Arena | Unknown | 2,500,000,000 (max) |
| Total | 3,535,000,000 (or more) | 3,435,000,000 |
My suggestion: A new agreement with 50/50 split. Maximum of $3.435 billion from Commonwealth
Gabba upgrade funding still needed to accommodate T20 cricket which will be a huge Olympic money spinner.
Also, maintenance needed on aging Gabba just to get the venue ready for the games.
| Venue | Funding |
| New Oval Stadium Victoria Park (AFL & cricket legacy capacity 60K) | 3,200,000,000 |
| Minor Venues State | 935,000,000 |
| Minor Venues Commonwealth | 935,000,000 |
| Gabba Upgrade | 500,000,000 |
| New Swimming Venue Chandler or beside Boondall Entertainment Centre (Quirk Report p 40) 3 pool enclosed complex Capacity 6k permanent 9k temporary | 620,000,000 |
| QSAC No Funding Needed | |
| Lang Park no Funding Needed | |
| Spare Funding | 810,000,000 (Relocate BMX, Equestrian cross country. Quirk report p32) only part of this money needed |
| Total | 7,000,000,000 |
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Political parties will say things to get them votes and when they get elected or re-elected they don't follow through with the things they say before elections
Yes and sometimes they do major stuff that they never mentioned beforhand.
Thankfully, following the election, there's positive signs that sanity will at last prevail with the Olympic Stadium situation. Spending a billion dollars on tarting up the old athletics stadium solely for the games and then demolishing most of it afterwards - at a time when the Gabba is rapidly approaching obsolescence for both the Lions and cricket, was about the dumbest political decision that could've been made for the Olympics.
... Mr Crisafulli has repeatedly slammed the QSAC proposal, which he has called a “thought bubble” and an “embarrassment”. He said he had spoken with Prime Minister Anthony Albanese about the Olympics in a Sunday morning phone call.
“I spent a considerable amount of time talking to the Prime Minister about that and we intend to speak directly to the (federal) sports minister (Anika Wells), who is a Queenslander, and I reckon we can get a good outcome.”
“A new stadium at Victoria Park enables a smooth transition, for cricket, AFL and other major events, from the Gabba to the new stadium. ...
... Mr Crisafulli has repeatedly slammed the QSAC proposal, which he has called a “thought bubble” and an “embarrassment”. He said he had spoken with Prime Minister Anthony Albanese about the Olympics in a Sunday morning phone call.
“I spent a considerable amount of time talking to the Prime Minister about that and we intend to speak directly to the (federal) sports minister (Anika Wells), who is a Queenslander, and I reckon we can get a good outcome.”
“A new stadium at Victoria Park enables a smooth transition, for cricket, AFL and other major events, from the Gabba to the new stadium. ...
