Next Generation

[Bucking Beads]

Really? I mean come on. He has a decade of cricket left in him if he stays injury free.

Plenty of time yet but it is gonna be tough for him. He is also English so may choose to go down that path to play cricket all year round.

 

[western royboy]

He's made some good runs but at 26 its late to be getting a shield gig then turning that into a successful test career.

No - not if he can play and has a technique

 

[BGman]

Prime Minister's XI squad: Jack Edwards (c), Charlie Anderson, Mahli Beardman, Scott Boland, Jack Clayton, Aidan O'Connor, Ollie Davies, Jayden Goodwin, Sam Harper, Hanno Jacobs, Sam Konstas, Lloyd Pope, Matthew Renshaw, Jem Ryan?

In bold those I see having a Test career.

I'd also have had Philippe as the keeper.

 

[eth-dog]

Plenty of time yet but it is gonna be tough for him. He is also English so may choose to go down that path to play cricket all year round.

Again, I don't see that. He's relatively young, has a good temperament and is scoring runs. If he has a good season this year there's no reason he can't go on to play test cricket

 

[Bucking Beads]

No - not if he can play and has a technique

Will he even get a look in though. It is very clear to me that if you aren't in the system early you can rarely break into it. He has a good technique but isn't scoring a mountain of runs so he will need to really load up to get a look in IMO.

 

[BGman]

On the Verge:
Sam Konstas
Ollie Davies
Corey Rocchiccioli
Spencer Johnson
Josh Philippe

The Next Wave:
Hugh Weibgen
Harry Dixon
Nivethan Radhakrishnan
Mahli Beardman
Lloyd Pope
Lachlan Shaw

Good deduction Tim. Other than Ollie Davies, I have said same or very similar.
Adding Charlie Anderson, Joel Davies, Ryan Hicks, Callum Vidler, Liam Blackford, Raf MacMillan to the NEXT WAVE plus Tanveer Sangha, for Pope.
My bolter is Louis Smith from Tassie. You heard that name here first

 

[BGman]

He's made some good runs but at 26 its late to be getting a shield gig then turning that into a successful test career.

Late bloomer. I too like Lovell. Is 25 actually.

 

[western royboy]

Will he even get a look in though. It is very clear to me that if you aren't in the system early you can rarely break into it. He has a good technique but isn't scoring a mountain of runs so he will need to really load up to get a look in IMO.

The system is rooted and hopefully soon it turns back to sanity and common sense instead of group think in an echo chamber

 

[Some Idiot]

Ollie Davies. Rofl 100 times.

Averaged 67 in the shield last year, career average 43. Given the lack of Australian players averaging 40+, stats alone give him a chance.

 

[Bucking Beads]

The system is rooted and hopefully soon it turns back to sanity and common sense instead of group think in an echo chamber

We can only hope. Grassroots is in a very bad way. I currently umpire cricket in QLD and the lack of 13-19 year olds playing in the competition is sad.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

'Sixty overs in a weekend': The parent trap causing burnout in cricket's generation next

Australian cricket is booming at junior levels but as the sport attracts a more diverse and higher player base, the pressure on some of these kids is becoming too much and burnout looms.

www.abc.net.au

Can understand it bowling 60 in a weekend.
That's a lot of bowling for anyone.

Admittedly I am mid 30s now but the couple times a season I bowl 25+ I am ****ed at work until at least Tuesday.

 

[RookiePick]

Can understand it bowling 60 in a weekend.
That's a lot of bowling for anyone.

Admittedly I am mid 30s now but the couple times a season I bowl 25+ I am ****ed at work until at least Tuesday.

60 overs in a weekend seems nuts. I think the CA guidelines for juniors is along the lines of 30 balls up to 3 times a week - that's 15 overs in a week - and a rest/light week every 4th week.

 

[Black Diamond]

60 overs in a weekend seems nuts. I think the CA guidelines for juniors is along the lines of 30 balls up to 3 times a week - that's 15 overs in a week - and a rest/light week every 4th week.

Seriously? A rest week every 4th?

This nonsense is why we have had a generation of fast bowlers prone to injury in their early adult years.

 

[Yoda_]

The Vic boys would know more, but what is the deal with Dixon? Thought he would be a cert after his U/19 efforts, for some SS exposure. Looking forward to seeing Peake come through as well.

Vic seem to have a supply of youngish quicks(bar Sid)in O'Neill, Perry, Crone, Elliott etc, plus some decent young bats coming through in Kellaway, Peake, Rogers, Kellaway, Dixon etc...providing the state with a squad capable of emulating the feats of thar Vic side a few years back and WA of recent.

Ollie Peake WILL play test cricket for Australia.. Haven't seen this sort of excitement about a prodigy since Puck and before that Clarke

 

[RookiePick]

Eh. I'm just saying what the guidelines are. It seems a bit light on to me but maybe they are meaning 30 maximal effort balls from a kid in an elite pathway who is concentrating or something. All the kids I see either slow down, start bowling spin, goof around or go and sit down after around 3 or 4 overs anyway

 

[big_e]

Seriously? A rest week every 4th?

This nonsense is why we have had a generation of fast bowlers prone to injury in their early adult years.

No, a rest week every 10-12 weeks, but a lighter week every 4 weeks.

And despite what you say, there is actual science that says that heavy bowling loads on developing bodies is worse for injuries than lighter loads.

Here's the link to the guidelines, knock yourself out: https://play.cricket.com.au/community/clubs/managing-your-club/youth-pace-bowling-guidelines

 

[RookiePick]

No, a rest week every 10-12 weeks, but a lighter week every 4 weeks.

And despite what you say, there is actual science that says that heavy bowling loads on developing bodies is worse for injuries than lighter loads.

Here's the link to the guidelines, knock yourself out: https://play.cricket.com.au/community/clubs/managing-your-club/youth-pace-bowling-guidelines

Appreciate you being substantially less lazy than I!

 

[big_e]

Appreciate you being substantially less lazy than I!

I googled cricket bowlers junior guidelines and it was the first result.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Averaged 67 in the shield last year, career average 43. Given the lack of Australian players averaging 40+, stats alone give him a chance.

Ollie is possibly the only person I have seen in shield to have almost as bad a technique as Fraser mcgurk.

 

[RookiePick]

I googled cricket bowlers junior guidelines and it was the first result.

That's what I said

 

[MisterMarcus]

Ollie is possibly the only person I have seen in shield to have almost as bad a technique as Fraser mcgurk.

I'm not sure if it's technique or temperament.

He seems to get to 20-30 relatively easily then gift his wicket away with a silly over-aggressive shot.

 

[MisterMarcus]

One thing I've noticed being involved in my son's junior cricket is that it still seems to be very much a "two culture sport". The kids are almost all either White Anglos or of Subcontinental background.

I don't know if there just hasn't been enough reaching out to kids of other backgrounds, or they're simply not that interested in cricket.

But it's going to be a bit of a restriction on the talent pool coming through if only a few different types of people are interested in the game.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I'm not sure if it's technique or temperament.

He seems to get to 20-30 relatively easily then gift his wicket away with a silly over-aggressive shot.

It's partly both but definitely technique. He is no chance at test level with his technique.

 

[BGman]

Averaged 67 in the shield last year, career average 43. Given the lack of Australian players averaging 40+, stats alone give him a chance.

In white ball most definitely. Only player to ever hit a Aussie U19 nationals double hundred. Have not seen much BBL, does he play? I see him as perhaps another Chris Lynn, blasting white ball 50s, 100s for fun one minute, then a reckless hoik the next for a duck.

 

[Aussie_boy]

Ollie is possibly the only person I have seen in shield to have almost as bad a technique as Fraser mcgurk.

Is JFM's technique bad? To me it seems alright to good, he just lacks any sort of desire to bat longer than 4 overs.